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Anti Ds We might be locked out of last thread,..but we will never be totally locked dow 👍

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Dowser · 01/08/2020 13:56

How did that happen?
Taking one for the team 👍

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TheOrchidKiller · 04/08/2020 20:39

@Allflightscancelled I bet an extra year at home will make us parents more than ready for them to leave the nest! DD lives with us & I feel more confident about her coping on her own than I did 12 months ago.

CruCru · 04/08/2020 20:44

@profpoopsnagle

Had a miserable trip out to Osbourne house today. Booked tickets on website, mentioned masks in gift shop but no where else, turn up and masks are to be worn in house- cue fumbling around and DH wearing a hanky. No interpretation boards, just whistle on through and downstairs only. Then walked to the beach, there's a toilet monitor making sure no one passes by in a corridor (was exactly like being at school) and a massive queue for the cafe, where one of the servers kept shouting at the queue to stay apart. And to top it off no Knickerbocker Glorys Hmm. We really seemed to have squeezed as much fun out of life as we can.
That doesn’t sound much fun. I hadn’t realised that the house is now open.

Do you have children? We’ve been to Blackgang Chine, Robin Hill and Tapnell Farm and they were good. Masks are required for the galleon and the 4D cinema in Robin Hill but that was it.

I’m hoping that Farringford opens soon (it’s very near me).

Sherlockscurlylocks · 04/08/2020 21:01

Please can I join in - I have lurked on these threads without commenting and valued you all as the voice of reason in these times of madness. Feeling increasingly unsettled again after feeling as if we were starting to move in the right direction.

I work in the hospitality industry and am petrified of the calls for mass closure again of all pubs. As a business, we have spent so much money, spent so much time and consideration on doing things right and actually delayed opening up our sites until we were absolutely certain we had done everything to protect people. I am heartbroken at the prospect of blanket closure again that some seem to be baying for rather than taking a considered approach at the demographic, the area and the measures that each venue has taken to protect their staff and guests. Added to that my son is at boarding school (for good reasons I hasten to add) and I cannot find anywhere what is proposed for them even if they do open up. He needs to be at school properly - he is missing out on the types of physical exercise he enjoys and therefore takes part in because I can't find alternatives elsewhere. He is spending too much time on screens when I have to work when I know he should be at camps outside and I am just so so fed up of everything. I thought we were meant to be moving towards a scenario where we could manage all this but now it seems to be eliminate or nothing and yet the government still can't get test and trace properly set up. FGS how difficult is that!

I am feeling really down at the moment as the industry and job I love are both under threat as is my son's education (his school have done brilliantly with the teaching but we all know school isn't just about that).

I just want to scream when I read yet another hysterical headline in the news. I have no idea what that is supposed to achieve. We are encouraged to eat out to help out but on the other hand we are told to get healthy and lose weight. I want to do both thank you and I don't need a patronising govt scheme to point out that I may need to shed a few pounds. Blame that on your fucking scaremongering tactics of the past few months when all I did was stay at home and, because of all the stress, comfort ate the cooking chocolate I found in the back of the cupboard. I was then made to feel guilty if I left home for anything more than essentials (sorry wine is essential when I am under massive stress, there's a pandemic going on don't you know???) and feeling like I was a murderer for daring to leave my home.

Sorry for the rant - I have followed you all along but just needed to let this out. Reading the multiple threads on here you have created has been my lifeline to a semblance of sanity and knowing I am not the only person feeling the way I do. It is hard in real life to broach how people feel and react to the current situation and I find I have to tread carefully as I know my feelings don't always match up to others. I have family north of the border that I know very much believe in St Nichola so it is hard to broach CV with them. Thank you all and very unmumsnetty hugs

WouldBeGood · 04/08/2020 21:04

Hello @Sherlockscurlylocks and great post

InsaneInTheViralMembrane · 04/08/2020 21:06

Hello @Sherlockscurlylocks - it’s ok. If schools shut, I may just take up drinking as a hobby to support publicans.

What’s your stance on bum donut dogs, Victorian sewers and flocking? 😁

InsaneInTheViralMembrane · 04/08/2020 21:08

Gawd, I always get my dog donut bum mixed up.

@Pleasedontdothat my parents wouldn’t let me go into horses - no money in that. Bollocks- I was on track for Newmarket and would’ve nabbed the trainer’s son. 😂 instead I did uni... wish I’d stuck to the gee-gees, I’d have been far happier (and healthier).

CruCru · 04/08/2020 21:09

Hi Sherlockscurlylocks!

Sherlockscurlylocks · 04/08/2020 21:14

A fab welcome! Grin Bum donut dogs - need to reserve judgement on this methinks. Victorian sewers - great alternative to swimming pools I given the circumstances. DS and I have become increasingly relaxed about where is acceptable to swim just as long he can actually swim (this being one of his few acceptable forms of exercise) and I am desperate for him to start shedding the lockdown pounds he has accumulated (because, as the Govt says, being overweight will kill you - well open up places for kids to exercise!!!!). Flocking - I might have to refresh myself on that one - there may be one too may threads that I have read in a mildly drunken haze because my stress levels have been through the rough.

Sherlockscurlylocks · 04/08/2020 21:15

@InsaneInTheViralMembrane please come and visit us - you will be welcomed with the best G & T's in the world. We serve artisan gins don't you know!

InsaneInTheViralMembrane · 04/08/2020 21:21

😁 you’d be a welcome addition at my Monday swim club then. I’m swimming in lochs - Given my lovely gym is closed for eternity.

I’ve got a big swim early tomorrow and it’s going to be Baltic with the amount of rain we’ve had here in Scotland.

I want to be able to walk for miles without the whinging, demands for snacks, fighting and recaps about what stampy did on YouTube.

TheOrchidKiller · 04/08/2020 21:32

@Sherlockscurlylocks welcome to the club.

I feel for you. DD works in hospitality. She's fairly young & new to it but she loves it. I think people see it as a "stop-gap" job but it's so much more than that; it's a career & a livelihood. I can see how hard her bosses have worked to keep the business going, so I know the effort you have put in.

Of course we want schools to stay open, but why is it about one aspect of life over another all the time, and not, as you say, a considered approach?

It's like "A Scientist" pops up on the news saying, "We must do this / shut that / we're all doomed," & the nation goes, "ok then," without any thought.

The situation with boarding school is not one that I'd even considered, but of course there are going to be children who need to be boarding for whatever reason & not able to do it. It sounds very difficult. Surely a boarding school could sort out some sort of bubble / household system?

PinkFondantFancy · 04/08/2020 21:34

@profpoopsnagle sorry to hear about Osbourne House, I have many happy memories of visiting there but your trip sounds utterly miserable.

@Sherlockscurlylocks welcome!

@chocolatesweets I'm late to this but one more voice to say I hear you

I havent had an amazing day, crazy return to office plans and freaking out about proposals to test kids at school (no way do I consent to anything at all being put in my child's body without me being physically present) didn't combine to make a massively productive day. However, last minute uptick in quality of life with a long leisurely bath watching Casualty BlushGrin

profpoopsnagle · 04/08/2020 21:40

Crucru don't go! I made up for the miserableness by having a glorious swim in the sea, but it really all was rather pants. We'd visited Carisbrooke earlier in the week and that was normal by comparison, which is why I thought that Osbourne would be the same. We only have one more day here before we head to infect the Mainland again and I'm aiming for another glorious swim. Our next campsite has asked us to fill out an online form to contemplate our chances of having Covid. Do we have a cough? No. A temperature? No. A loss of smell? No. Have we travelled abroad in the last 14 days? No. Have we been in contact with anyone that might have answered yes to the following 4 questions? AFAIK no, but I haven't asked everyone I've been in 200cm radius of! They know more about my health than my doctor's receptionist! Much like those who go into a hospital, we have all been institutionalised into others taking care of us, our health and our decisions. This is not a good road to be heading down. They closed the playground at Osbourne house today. Whilst we were picnicking, 3 groups of children ran with glee towards it to be disappointed with a sign telling them they could perhaps run around on the grounds. Stick a sign up saying 'at users' risk', we can all squirt copious amounts of handgel on afterwards, which is more or less what we would have done before.

profpoopsnagle · 04/08/2020 21:43

Forgot to add, I would NOT be intending to travel to the campsite if I had answered yes to any of those (1st three) questions for any of my family. I'm not that irresponsible.

SomewhereEast · 04/08/2020 21:45

@Sherlockscurlylocks Closing pubs again over the winter makes no sense to me. At this stage so many people seem done with lockdown, so they'll go round each other's houses to party, or will gather outdoors if the weather allows. Thats what seems to be happening back in my home country (Ireland). At least responsible pubs can enforce basic precautions.

NannyPhlegm · 04/08/2020 21:55

@Sherlockscurlylocks Welcome to the thread. I lurked for ages and ages before contributing. I don't think I could have got through the early days of lockdown without these threads. Even just the memory of how people behaved in those early days makes me shudder even now.

As @SomewhereEast says, shutting pubs will just move the problem elsewhere. There will be gatherings of people either in woods, gardens, or just in town centres. The anti social effects don't bear thinking about!
There was an article in the Telegraph a few weeks ago, pointing out that as a result of the ban on weddings over a certain number of guests, a huge number of weddings have gone underground. The parties have just moved to people's gardens or wherever they can find semi-suitable. Which means an entire industry is losing out on work, but the ban hasn't really prevented what it set out to prevent.

Ibake · 04/08/2020 22:06

Welcome @Sherlockscurlylocks I've done my best for your industry and Rishi tonight and been out for dinner.

Really lovely evening and yes, everywhere I go I can see the effort and expense bars, cafes and restaurants have gone to in order to have safe and appealing premises.

Which is why I get the rage so bad when I read a smunt saying 'they're certainly not going to a restaurant, it's not safe'. Don't worry love, you wouldn't get in anyway wearing your hair shirt.

HeIenaDove · 04/08/2020 22:17

Welcome @Sherlockscurlylocks

justasking111 · 04/08/2020 22:18

Chatted to the pub owner this afternoon we were the last to leave, she is exhausted with all the extra cleaning of absolutely bloody everything. Her hands have cracked. She has a six year old who has been off school for months. They have worked so hard, bought tents for the gardens so you can eat outside under cover. Now we are allowed inside it is lovely. The paperwork on top of everything else is onerous, no furlough money for owners her husband is the chef.

Pleasedontdothat · 04/08/2020 22:21

I can’t believe what’s going on in Melbourne - that is absolutely horrific - has the state premier completely lost his mind?

Sherlockscurlylocks · 04/08/2020 22:23

Thank you so much for all you input so far. @TheOrchidKiller you are right. We take it so seriously as a career for everyone involved from KP upwards - it is awful at the best of times when people dismiss hospitality as a career for those that can't do any better. The people I work with and have the privilege of calling my friends are awesome. Fact Grin.

@SomewhereEast I think that too - we have done everything by the book and more. What's more we have tried to make it a genuinely enjoyable experience. We are so grateful people are putting their trust in us we don't want to breach it. @NannyPhlegm I agree - we would be more than happy to work with people to accommodate them as best we could.

On a tangent, it't a lot like my son's school. All along they have been brilliant at reacting and providing for the kids. If they had just been given a bit more autonomy to make sensible, considered decisions based on their particular circumstances, they would have been able to have the kids back on site so much sooner. I am (sorry for the MN exaggeration here but its true) aghast that there wasn't a modicum of scope for schools and consumer facing businesses to make an appropriate risk assessment and implement the right measures in accordance with their particular circumstances and end users. Instead we paralysed the whole economy for months on end with a blanket approach and the assumption that none of us were intelligent enough to do the right thing. My worry is that there are no signs of this slowing and, indeed, the government are using of an approach of relax, then whipping up the public via the media about the next scare and "threatening" what the next steps are likely to be to gauge reaction to the announcement and then a few days later announcing them as mandatory with little notice. The government are reacting to the dementors rather than the reasoned majority.

As you can probably tell I have circa four months of feelings and opinions to let out! I promise I will be more considered as of tomorrow,

justasking111 · 04/08/2020 22:25

[quote HeIenaDove]Jesus wept

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-victoria-daniel-andrews-to-announce-permit-system-for-melbourne/news-story/98df111af6f7d04a0f49e8f05a775ee8?fbclid=IwAR2rafSFhlJv4iS_Z05M9D8IFmZiTZw2cw3GglrU7jpoSKm50jRK3nreCVE[/quote]
They have gone bloody bonkers in aussie land. My friends had this in France but that was when things were really bad she had to print out a permit. Are the aussies so badly behaved that they need a letter and fines. The europeans certainly seem to be more compliant than the americans and australians.

Ibake · 04/08/2020 22:26

To be fair that is what France had for weeks on end. An 'attestation' saying why you were out (eg food shopping) and where you were going. Only allowed 1.5 km from your house for exercise. We were in France when this all kicked off and decided to come home but a few of our friends decided to stay. They were very limited in what they could do and the gendarmes were everywhere.

Sherlockscurlylocks · 04/08/2020 22:26

@ibake I love you! You are the sort of guest that we love to see come back in. Please make the most of your discount this month!