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How did that happen?
Taking one for the team 👍

@ButterMeCrumpets

The over 50s assessment in my head makes a bit more sense.

If someone has a lot of risk factors they could perhaps have more PPE if they work and or be advised to restrict contacts. People could therefore make their own judgment about looking after GC, meeting friends inside, shopping and eating out based on their own medical risk assessment.

More places could open with people managing their own social distancing depending on risk factors and their own judgement and lifestyle.

It makes a hug amount of sense if it's done properly. An individual assessment based on you, your job, your household, leaving you free to make an informed decision about your risk. Except it's already become 'over 50's will be locked in their homes'. I think I'm just about done with MN. It's making Facebook look sane.

there was no WiFi ‘due to the pandemic.’

5G - that's all that needs to be said

And today on gammonboi neighbour watch - he's outside, topless (not a pretty sight), wearing a face mask and spraying something that fucking stinks onto another of his DIY projects.

I'm in the conservatory - doors open - as have most people around here so we're getting all the fumes.

In normal years I'd have uni to go to to avoid him and get a break - but this year none of that (can't even go into the library to work because it's still on lockdown).

Wonder how many people shielded unnecessarily because they got an official bloody scary letter pages and pages long and it scared the crap out of them ?

My dad did. And stuck it out too because he felt he should. His consultant said he could go out if he wanted to but "it was best to follow the government advice". Now, we're not going to sue the consultant if dad gets covid because he didn't shield fully. But someone else might sue, so I think that's why it ended up becoming a "best do as you're told" thing.

Topless in a mask (definitely not envy).
Domina I bet he's not wearing sun cream.

They're ramping up in Melbourne/Victoria as well. Curfew, 1 hour exercise, no more than 5km from home and only one person shopping. I don't know if it's the whole state or just the city

@TheOrchidKiller

Wonder how many people shielded unnecessarily because they got an official bloody scary letter pages and pages long and it scared the crap out of them ?

My dad did. And stuck it out too because he felt he should. His consultant said he could go out if he wanted to but "it was best to follow the government advice". Now, we're not going to sue the consultant if dad gets covid because he didn't shield fully. But someone else might sue, so I think that's why it ended up becoming a "best do as you're told" thing.

It used to be the case that you couldn't sue medical personnel because they were giving their 'opinion'. I've thought for a long time that we should go back to that. Doctors and nurses are not gods, in spite of their media portrayal.

@LivinLaVidaLoki Do you have a link to that article about retail sales dropping since the face nappies came in? I want to share it.

Doctors and nurses are not gods, in spite of their media portrayal.

I know! I don't think we should go back to Doctor Knows Best at all. It does feel a bit like that with how we're dealing with covid.

A formal risk assessment is useful in some settings. We have them at work & it's enabled people to access different levels of PPE or to be on restricted duties if they need it.

The flip-side is if you do the assessment & say no thanks to the measures offered. I asked what would happen at work & HR was mentioned.

@BellaintheWychElm

there was no WiFi ‘due to the pandemic.’

5G - that's all that needs to be said

@BellaintheWychElm that had me howling

Scottish radio is telling us not to share untrue memes on social media. Giant doctor approves.

@wanderings

Its in a few retail mags but popped up on the daily mail too (sorry)

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8584347/amp/Customer-numbers-fall-compulsory-face-masks-introduced-shops-figures-reveal.html

Or

www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2020/07/slight-dip-in-footfall-as-face-coverings-become-mandatory/

Just saw this too. I've been banging this drum since day 1 but its never been in the media and no one has really given a shiny shit.
This poor girl.

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/judge-orders-urgent-treatment-girl-18704051

@LivinLaVidaLoki Thanks. For those who don't want to click the DM link, there's a picture for us to smile at, behind our face nappies. A watch shop has a sign saying:

"Could you Please remove your mask for the camera for a moment, due to security issue's."

Top marks for use of capital letters, and apostrophe. And all those customers entering the shop will be contaminating their muzzles by touching them. It's a farce, isn't it?

@LivinLaVidaLoki - the impact to children at risk of abuse and neglect is the first thing I’d love to be wrong about. I spoke to the person responsible for schools in our council about this and it’s the only time I’ve got properly cross. Children have been failed on so many counts but the harm done through abuse and neglect can’t be undone. It colours people’s experiences throughout life even with decent support and it’s so underfunded I don’t think many children get the right support at the right time.

[quote LivinLaVidaLoki]Just saw this too. I've been banging this drum since day 1 but its never been in the media and no one has really given a shiny shit.
This poor girl.

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/judge-orders-urgent-treatment-girl-18704051[/quote]
Absolutely awful. I hate to think how many more are out there?

@wanderings Its fucking ridiculous. I refuse to participate in a ridiculous game, I was just going to post the same but you beat me to it.

Incidentally the drop for the Friday just gone compared to the Friday before is stark............especially as people will have just been paid their wages..........we are in very early August so start of the month.

Oh and for any lurkers who take that as me refusing to wear a mask....its not

Its me refusing to go somewhere where id have to take it on and off and on and off,

If that shop has a problem with the policy they should take it up with the Government not piss their customers about.

@LivinLaVidaLoki

@HeIenaDove

Oh and for any lurkers who take that as me refusing to wear a mask....its not

Its me refusing to go somewhere where id have to take it on and off and on and off,

If that shop has a problem with the policy they should take it up with the Government not piss their customers about.

This is what a lot of people are deliberately not understanding. I am not going to "rebel" or break roolz to make a point. But I am well within my democratic rights to choose to not patronise a place where I don't feel comfortable. And I refuse to bear responsibility for the economic outcomes of that decision.

In its current guise, masks in retails...not to mention cinemas and museums....is just performative safety role play.

I've always believed face coverings for those who are able to is necessary in mass public transport (trains, planes, buses... NOT taxis) as Track and Trace is impossible in those places. I will happily use those often, once the essential travel only restrictions are lifted (in Wales).

@WalesAppearsToBeSlightlySaner
As you know I work with vulnerable children, families and young people and the effects of this "cockdown" (cock up of a lockdown) have been huge. But no one ever listens. Or cares. Just because it's not reported like covid.

You are absolutely bob on when you say.

Children have been failed on so many counts but the harm done through abuse and neglect can’t be undone

Just waving hello! I'm abroad just now but will be back in the UK possibly October.

@LivinLaVidaLoki - I know it doesn't help much but I'm so grateful to people who work on the front line of safeguarding. You get a lot of flack from every direction but everyone I've met is really committed, if at times frustrated by the limitations placed on them. I wish you all had more of a platform to speak out at this time. People involved in safeguarding seem to have been silenced, but I'm worried they will be scapegoated in cases like this.

@DominaShantotto I feel for you re the uni library. I work in a uni and I know our library is a space of peace and safety for many of our students. I hate that it’s closed. When I was doing my postgrad it was the only place I could work. I’m desperate to get back to my office, I miss it like mad.

@IAintentDead

They're ramping up in Melbourne/Victoria as well. Curfew, 1 hour exercise, no more than 5km from home and only one person shopping. I don't know if it's the whole state or just the city

They have officially gone nuts in Australia. 208 deaths since records began for covid. 7 yesterday, 604 cases, their highest death rate in one day was 13, when I had the temerity to ask when did they run out of backbone I was lynched. But come on compared to many countries they are doing well. What we call pockets of infection they are seeing as armageddon.