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I don't understand the shaming thing with masks- it will just make people more anxious about going out to shops at all.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito
I feel the same. I am resigned to wearing masks now though, which annoys me further because I feel coerced. I am not avoiding shops because I dislike online shopping, so I'll get on with it but it's under sufferance.

@Orangeblossom78 I am selective about what I say to people. I know people like your friends. This is why I feel comfortable on this thread- no judgement or sharp intakes of breath on here if I say I've been shopping for shoes, for example.

Well, I have just explained Track & Trace to a young man ("Ooh young man!") working in a shoe shop (they were in the sale & they were asking to be bought). He asked if I was going clubbing this weekend (hahahahaha!) & we started talking about going out post-lockdown & track and trace. He said he didn't know what track & trace meant. He wasn't too keen on the answer. Promise I wasn't dementoring him, but I wonder how well T&T will work if people don't understand it?

I will avoid shops where possible and politely inform the ubiquitous door staff that I am exempt. I have the advantage of being the least rebellious looking person ever.

Any underling member of jo public who challenges will be met with the full iciness of politeness that only a truly aspiring middle class person can muster 😇 and maybe a Mumsnetty ‘did you mean to be so rude?’

[quote PinkFondantFancy]Wow, policing by public shaming. What a shitty new world we're in: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53498100[/quote]
It's horrific. Absolutely horrific.

I was already fearing this anyway, but to have the shame vigilantes endorsed in this way is terrifying.

I will try a buff. I have actually bought a cheap wedding veil, but am not feeling brave enough to risk my luck at this stage. But if I have a panic attack, I will claim exemption... but then I have to fear the busy body Shopping Stasi.

I just want to be able to go out and buy food for my family as usual.

News from the head office- STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that we wear masks or visors unless behind a screen, so that's ok if you're working on a checkout. Wondering what happens when you get off the checkout to go upstairs etc, do we have to put a mask on whilst walking on the shop floor? Hmm, can see issues here.

@BarkandCheese

Has anyone else seen this? Our Aldi have installed a traffic light system at the front door, green you can go in, red wait. The automatic doors won’t actually open if it’s red, and it seems to have a way of counting people going out the exit so it lets one group in when one goes out. No more shop assistants with counters and clip boards. I’m somewhere between annoyed at it’s existence and amazed at how quickly this bit of kit has been created.

It's been on one of my local ones since May. Much better than having someone stood there. They must get so board but also hear all the anonymous pleasantries thousands of times an hour.

Most of the one's I have seen, I'm pleased to say have been pleasant and smiley - and all have said most people have been polite.

That should be 'bored' and I've no excuse as I'm on a laptop so no autocorrect.

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/no-known-case-of-teacher-catching-coronavirus-from-pupils-says-scientist-3zk5g2x6z?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1595348184

Interesting!

I feel faint. Hooves has posted on the NHS thread and I agreed with the just of it even if the tone was a bit poor me. I think I'll go and lie down.

Hello again everyone. Was taking a 'too depressed about masks and must hide' break. Being very cheeky but I stopped reading stats weeks ago because it made me feel that I was going insane. Soon to meet a Dementor and wandered if anyone has at their fingertips ballpark latest stats on number of young person deaths (from Covid obv. If they've died of anything else no one should of course give a toss)

Had lunch out first time since lockdown woo hoo. Ship In Red Wharf Bay, so organised, men had to use outside loos ladies normal loos. They had benches outside but it was very windy then rainy so they had little beach huts to sit in. Gorgeous food, wine, chatting with family. Then we went to Beaumaris schlepping around shops all lovely again. Sanitisers everywhere so no worries.

Spoke to a man in queue for food outside he had just arrived from Buxton for a couple of days he said to avoid the tourists it was so busy.

Supermarketworker06

News from the head office- STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that we wear masks or visors unless behind a screen, so that's ok if you're working on a checkout. Wondering what happens when you get off the checkout to go upstairs etc, do we have to put a mask on whilst walking on the shop floor? Hmm, can see issues here.

In the NHS building where I do some of my work we don't need to wear masks in non-patient areas provided we socially distance. We do have to wear a mask to walk from the public entrance, through the reception area, to the non-patient area. Luckily there is a different entrance for staff.

Or you could do what I've observed this afternoon, on our high street. Hairdresser receptionist comes out of salon with visor on (no mask) & removes visor to have a chat with a friend in the street which was definitely not 2m apart. When another hairdresser (masked) comes out of the salon to talk to the receptionist the visor goes back on. The hairdresser goes inside & the visor comes off. Receptionist tells friend how they all have to come to work with washed hair & in a clean set of clothes each day. Then she hugs her friend.

We're either doing the face covering thing or we're not. What's the bloody point of wearing clean clothes every day "because of covid" if you're then going to let your friend touch them? Does the half-hearted visor protect you?

@Worldgonecrazy
Ha ha !
I’m in town right now and been informing all the store staff I’m medically exempt

Laying down my ground rules

My mum is NHS... they’ve been told this week that they have to wear masks every time they go upstairs from where she is based to the reception. Except they’ve also been told they don’t have enough disposable masks so could they use 1 at least 5 times before disposing of it...

Just back from the park, where our picnic was disturbed by a group os students all in masks, suddenly bursting into Shakespeare - we moved on after that. DS (15) thinks the masks were 'quite cool' and expressed an interest in getting one.

@TheOrchidKiller
It’s all a load of bunkum isn’t it

Well, Dowser, watching that receptionist I came over all Giant Doctory & wondered why I spend half my week sweating through full PPE & buckets of rank hand gel at work, for Ms. Perfect Bob to do as she pleases. (I am probably jealous as I still can't get booked in with my hairdresser & despite the flirty looks off the barista in Caffe Nero today, I am not enjoying this shit hairdo).

As the antidote to any Giant Doctory thoughts I did wake up this morning & ask myself if all of this is real. I'm not a covid denier, I just can't fathom how this illness has created such utter havoc.

@Drivingdownthe101
That's utter nuts about your mum's workplace. The NHS should know better!

[quote TheOrchidKiller]@Drivingdownthe101
That's utter nuts about your mum's workplace. The NHS should know better![/quote]
I know! My mum said she’d just take her own reusable ones in.
Her workplace has been entirely bonkers throughout. Last week her boss decided to move everyone’s desk 2m apart as they panicked due to track and trace. My mum and her colleagues had already done it themselves in March due to social distancing rules, and her boss hadn’t even noticed or indeed thought it might be a good idea until last week.

Hi! Will catch up with the thread shortly but just came here to vent.
Keep seeing news articles saying "rash in mouth could be new covid symptom"

Aaaaaaarrgggghh why why why keep introducing new symptoms? No one has noticed in 5 months.

Things finally start looking better and suddenly....bam! You could have covid.

The amount of articles like this....covid must have a 20 symptom list by now.

@LivinLaVidaLoki
If it's any consolation I had a follow up appointment this week as I'm in a covid vaccine trial, & the only covid symptoms they asked if I'd had were the classics : cough, loss of smell or taste, shortness of breath & fever.
No one mentioned a rash.

A quick google ('cos we all know that's wise, don't we?) revealed a news article on WebMD (I know, entirely peer-reviewed) about a study where 29% of patients in a study had the rash. But that was apparantly 6 patients out of a small group that had covid.

@TheOrchidKiller

Supermarketworker06

News from the head office- STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that we wear masks or visors unless behind a screen, so that's ok if you're working on a checkout. Wondering what happens when you get off the checkout to go upstairs etc, do we have to put a mask on whilst walking on the shop floor? Hmm, can see issues here.

In the NHS building where I do some of my work we don't need to wear masks in non-patient areas provided we socially distance. We do have to wear a mask to walk from the public entrance, through the reception area, to the non-patient area. Luckily there is a different entrance for staff.

Or you could do what I've observed this afternoon, on our high street. Hairdresser receptionist comes out of salon with visor on (no mask) & removes visor to have a chat with a friend in the street which was definitely not 2m apart. When another hairdresser (masked) comes out of the salon to talk to the receptionist the visor goes back on. The hairdresser goes inside & the visor comes off. Receptionist tells friend how they all have to come to work with washed hair & in a clean set of clothes each day. Then she hugs her friend.

We're either doing the face covering thing or we're not. What's the bloody point of wearing clean clothes every day "because of covid" if you're then going to let your friend touch them? Does the half-hearted visor protect you?

It's going to cause issues at our place, guaranteed. Glad I'm not in until next week. I'm really not looking forward to it.

@SomewhereEast

Bit late to the party, but I'm a solid been-on-marches-and-everything Remainer & some (ok...quite a few) Remain activists have just lost the plot on this one. I had to have a massive unfollowing spree on Twitter because it was just insane. I'm homeless politically in that I"m fairly left wing but I also have a libertarian streak, which is an unusual combination in the UK. Basically I think the state should have a strong safety net but leave everyone the fuck alone otherwise .

I share your views completely. We should start a new party.

And yes my remainer friends have been very tedious about masks and CV generally. They are usually nice folks so have muted rather than unfollowed / defriended them.

[quote PickAChew]@BogRollBOGOF I'm 32H and no, I'm not a duck, so shan't be trying that one :o[/quote]
I'm a H cup too so no I will have pretty reuseable ill fitted masks from Friday. Pointless as they are.

I read the Cressida Dick article too. Poor choice of words but I do feel that the police are in a tricky place trying to enforce this.

It's all nuts. There is no consistency at all. All cafes and coffee shops are interpreting 'the rools' differently, people taking masks off and on in and out shops, people wearing them outside in fresh air. It's a shambles.

We have to wear visors behind plastic screens and even when cooking but check out staff don't! Then they decided it's masks after Friday.. I am dreading it. I will be going through the back regularly to rip it off and breath without fabric hitting my nostrils!
Went out shopping with ds1. Had a nice time despite it being shopping. No track and trace in Cafe Nero no fuss. Spent a bloody fortune and still managed to forget eggs🤣🤣 Only be getting bread and milk and any necessities for forseable future😀