D = fn + (p x 0) then AD = - fn - (p x 0)

[LadyOfTheImprovisedBath]

New Thread. - Hello.

My DCs would love to ride ìn the boot. They obviously don't because I value a clean lisence. Also because I have a 7 seater so I can put real seats up there. Two kids is plenty more than enough, I just wanted an estate for scouting gear and general crap.
7 seats is brilliant though, mainly for the days when they can't leave each other alone so the least obnoxious gets the treat of the very back, Mr handsy gets his normal seat and I get quiet up the front.
We were social distancing before it was trendy

@LivinLaVidaLoki
Efharisto 😊

We had a Volvo estate! A proper old-school 70s one. I recall being driven to one of my birthday parties in the tailgate with at least 4 other kids rolling around in it with me!

@Nihiloxica

because I dreamt that I was watching BBC and there was a news story taken from here daily mail style about Loki's child confusing malakas with maracas, and in my dream I rushed to post here to tell you all!

Love it!!! 😂😂😂😂

I loved our 7-seater when the kids were small - we could divide and rule 😈

We had the 70s Volvo estate too with assorted children and dogs bouncing around in the back. My mum used to get very irritated with the grandchildren’s car seats and would frequently wonder how we’d all survived her neglectful parenting ...

We have a 7 seater, mainly just because there were so few cars that fitted three car seats across the back and the one we liked best happened to be a 7 seater. Rarely use the back two seats but it means we have a massive boot when they’re folded down!
I was born in 84 so am technically a millennial (just!). I identify as both an 80’s and 90’s kid I think!

I was born in 1969 so very definately a 70s kid. Remember sitting in the boot of the estate on trips to my grans by the sea. Not secured in anyvway. Long days of roaming around the countryside where I grew up with my friends only returning home for food.

I remember Z is for Zachariah and When the Wind Blows so was scared of nuclear attacks.

Today I encourage my daughters (throw them out of the house) to explore our village and surrounding area. Mixed success as they are usually back in a couple of hours. Although DD1 has taken to long solitary cycle rides round the countryside. I am probably considered neglectful by todays standards. I did this before the plague hit but probably even more frowned on now as I'm still doing it. But when I think back to the freedoms I had in the 70s and 80s my childrens lives are much more constrained.

It’s not like I don take risk seriously. For example, there’s a manned crossing in my village and I ALWAYS breathe in as I drive across!

When DH and I were standing in the queue for Ikea yesterday we were wondering about people’s wearing gloves but no mask, because surely if you’re worried enough to wear gloves you’d also wear a mask. Then it occurred to us it might be to avoid having to put sanitiser directly onto their skin. I noticed the other day that the backs of my hands were starting to resemble crazy paving which I’m sure is down to the sanitiser use.

@InsaneInTheViralMembrane I also take risk seriously which is why I’m a Volvo driver and check my car regularly for defects and drive defensively. The current situation is very much about perceived risk, not actual risk.

I’m wondering how many of us on this thread are not consumers of much TV News and adverts or other media? Perhaps that is a reason behind AD and add?

Lanolin for cracked hands (the one for breastfeeding) but it will make hands sticky. You can leave it on overnight under. Patton gloves.

Cotton gloves!

@Worldgonecrazy

Lanolin for cracked hands (the one for breastfeeding) but it will make hands sticky. You can leave it on overnight under. Patton gloves.

Thanks, I’ll try that. My hands seem to be ageing faster than the rest of me as it is, they don’t need any extra help from sanitiser.

@Worldgonecrazy I don’t watch tv. Couldn’t tell you the last time I watched a broadcast show. Must be decades.

@BarkandCheese I think that’s right - there have been a couple of times that my skin is so sore I’ve had to resort to gloves (which I then sanitise or change as I would wash my hands). I’d rather not though - more plastic waste etc

I was born in the late 60s- my mum had a Citroen 2CV6 and used to roll back the roof so we could stand up as she drove (but not, I think, on the motorway )

I’m wondering how many of us on this thread are not consumers of much TV News and adverts or other media?

I think for me it's more an inbuilt dislike of being told what to do I spent nearly all of my life Doing The Right Thing and Doing As I'm Told (bullying mother when I was growing up) and at 50 suddenly thought "Fuck that", because I always seemed to end up worse off.

I still do the right thing, where I believe it to to be right, but if I think the reasons behind don't hold up, I will question it rigorously.

Oh dear now is deeper over the Enjoy Summer Safely ad. Not enough masks.

despair

@Worldgonecrazy we don’t have TV. I read the Guardian, Torygraph & Times but never BBC or Sky & don’t have sm like Facebook or Twitter ... it definitely insulates me from the hysteria. Very rarely look at the local paper either - it’s mental! (& I know their senior ‘journalist’ - dh went to school with him, he’s a complete prick & a bit dim)

The plastic waste!

I went to a seaside town some time last year and they had notices everywhere about how the town aimed to be plastic free, and the cafes were all replacing plastic cutlery with wooden spork type things and they seemed to be making some real progress.

I imagine that's all gone down the crapper now and there are gloves, masks and sanitiser bottles all over the show. Because nothing matters except COVID.

I watch TV and news but I’m always sceptical about what I’m told. When I was in my teens my mother’s boyfriend was doing a degree (in social work I think). I used to read some of his his set texts because I found them interesting, two of them absolutely changed my world view and I’m sure put me onto the path of being an anti D. One was Folk Devils and Moral Panic, about how the media and those in power create and spin stories, the other was How to Lie With Statistics, self explanatory.

I honestly think both of these should be required reading for teens, they’re a crash course in critical thinking.

@Orangeblossom78 ... the add has the word ‘enjoy’ in it so they could have everyone in full hazmat suits & the grim reaper make special appearance & the dementors would still dement!

There can be no joy while sad death lurks.

I don’t watch much TV but I read a lot of news sources. I think reading a variety of media helps me to think critically... if three different papers can report the same subject from three different angles, stands to reason that at least some of them are absolute bollocks .

Overslept on a day off again. But as there is sod all to do....

Woke up from a recurring dream where I'm trying to put on PPE & the gloves are too small, or the masks keep breaking, and the more I try to get the stuff on the worse it gets.

Other people in my dreams have started wearing masks too.

There's no respite from it, not even in sleep.

I find the message behind the "I'm wearing a mask for you; you wear yours for me," so manipulative. There are posters like this in the city centre. It reminds me of old Durex ads : Ribbed for her pleasure.

If you want me to do something just come out with it & ask, don't be so coercive, it doesn't make me want to help.

To add to the stories of journeys in car boots, I have a tale about far too many of us being squished into the back of the school minibus & the teacher yelling, "some of you get on the floor NOW, we're going past the police station!"

And another story about a large number of teens being transported in the back of a removal van, holding on to the straps they used to tie furniture down with. The year that was stopped due to health & safety and we had to travel by coach, it was less fun.

Here are my car memories from the 1980s:

• Child seats made of newspaper wrapped in cloth. We had "straps" though, which were non-retractable seat belts, or "harnesses".
• Lots of children piled into the car, for a trip to the cinema (which was filled with smoke) with the youth group.
• Children sitting in the boot, not in seats.
• A tree falling over, just as we were approaching it, on a wet road. My dad recalls having to decide quickly whether to try and nip under it, or brake and hit it. He chose the latter; there was not much damage in the end. I recall an advert often seen on hoardings, which had a picture of a wet road, saying "Too fast... too wet... too late!"
• The car smoking when we were in it, and soon after we pulled over, it caught fire. I think that was one of the most exciting days of my whole childhood (I was 5). The best part of the day was being given a lift to the fire station, in the fire engine! Later we saw the written-off car being delivered back on a breakdown truck, looking surprisingly normal on the outside. What was not so much fun was that for a few months, my green-minded parents took the opportunity to see how well we could manage without a car (in London).

And after all this, I'm still here to tell the tale. Not once have I thought "my goodness, I could have died!". Maybe this is one reason I'm not so afraid of risk in general. As a young adult, I'd have been more worried about being mocked for wearing a muzzle than about catching something.

I do watch TV, but mainly Netflix and in demand stuff. I have purposely NOT watched the news. Since being off work I don't tend to look at online newspapers often, tends to be stuff linked to this thread.