Ads have had enough of malakas On July 4, they went crackers.

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Slight tweak to the suggestion, but here it is.

@IAintentDead I'm east Durham coast.

Had a shit night in the yurt. A massive group of adults and kids were still partying at 3am. 4 of them stayed around the fire talking loudly until 7am. I've emailed the campsite at the respective times as would rather have pur money back for tonight and go home ready for our next place tomorrow.

We don't live far away. I'd rather spend the money on a local business maybe go for a meal?

Are they all extreme anti-dementors?

Dh is off speaking to someone in person now so hoping for good news.

I'm going to play some music as loud as possible as they're all quiet probably sleeping. Nah I won't seen as dcs involved I'd be really noisy if not.

What's everyone else up to today?

The super spreaders were care homes and hospitals.

It’s worth noting that the superspreader in the choir example wasn’t asymptomatic. That is surely the most important thing to keep saying if you have any symptoms that could be covid don’t go to the fucking pub. The problem with all this asymptomatic spread stuff (that there is limited evidence for) is it makes people think ‘oh well you can’t tell if you’ve got it anyway so I’ll just crack on’

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Honestly I'm at the point where I'd be happy to just go back to actual normal and live with the consequences of that. Anyone who wants to distance / wear a mask / stay at home should do that. Anyone vulnerable should be able to stay at home and their should be some sort of benefit to enable them to do that.

Workplaces who can distance probably should just so they don't lose all their staff off sick for two weeks.

I'm not willing to sacrifice my life any more.

Me too!

Pubs should have reopened earlier on the proviso they only sold drinks higher than 40 percent proof. That would have killed off any nasties 😎

@TrustTheGeneGenie I think we should be allowed to make our own risk assessment at this point too, but I live in Scotland so that's not an option.

Yeah pretty much back to normal here, to be honest, we don't meet up with lots anyway but generally just getting back into behaving normally

Going to start a new park yoga class this week. So many want to join the lady is going to run two sessions one after the other so everyone can take part. So that is something to look forward to and might help my back as well.

Just waiting for the pool to open and will be happy.

@KaronAVyrus

Tbh after 500000 people have at Bournemouth beach 10 days ago we should have expected to see a spike from that ..... except we haven’t. I think we’ll be fine with the pubs opening Realistically we can’t ask young people to put their social life on hold until we get a vaccine. They had to open at some point.

Precisely. Just like the fabled second spike after VE day and BLM protests.

Now it's time get those leisure centres open, and recreational sport back; do something for the mental and physical health of the nation, who have been enslaved to Boris's nonsensical whims. The government are our servants, not the other way round.

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Honestly I'm at the point where I'd be happy to just go back to actual normal and live with the consequences of that. Anyone who wants to distance / wear a mask / stay at home should do that. Anyone vulnerable should be able to stay at home and their should be some sort of benefit to enable them to do that.

Workplaces who can distance probably should just so they don't lose all their staff off sick for two weeks.

I'm not willing to sacrifice my life any more.

I agree with that, I just still have this niggling worry than an increase in cases will mean schools don’t reopen properly in September. We’re at the mercy of the government 😭

Me too @Drivingdownthe101 but I figure that could happen whether we open things or not, and, I'd rather have an actual life in the mean time rather than an existence.

I think this has been a complete and total over reaction and I say that as someone who agreed with lockdown in the beginning but I feel as though I'm being punished, except I haven't done anything wrong. It feels like a prison sentence, as if I'm waiting for September to "get out on good behaviour"

I think that schools will open in general and only if cases in an area might be other measures - they have the trace system now, and only if that then goes out of control will e.g. a town lockdown take place.

People in Scotland couldn't go crackers though because of Saint Nicola's edict that we all STAY SAFE in our wee tartan masks.

Except the group of numpties who set themselves up on the A1 border at Berwick telling the English to stay the fuck at home. Nice.

Anyway, I am still incredibly cross that power hungry Saint Nicola of Covid has decreed that we all must wear face coverings BY LAW in shops as of next Friday. Despite community transmission being so low. What a crock of shite. I was at the GP on Friday and was ready to rip my face off after about a minute, masks are unbearable. I have ordered some plastic face visor/shield things but I'm sure the local dementors will have something to say about that.

Yes I feel sorry for the Scots with that one and think it will be hard for the shops too

Also think it gives a negative impression for visitors and that the tourism will suffer.

What gets me is this is a mild illness for the vast majority of people. This course of action has never been taken before. Why have we decided it's a good idea now?

I can't remember who said it but I bet the death rate this winter for everything else will be tiny, because people who would have died of flu and other nasty winter illness will have already died of covid.

In terms of 5 year averages and what not I'd be surprised if this year sticks out that far to be honest.

@Itis6oclocksomewhere thank you, I will check. We may wander into town and see if nandos would accommodate us today. It just seems unfair that we were told things were open.andtheyre just not. Library not opening is infuriating, especially with home schooling going on.

If you drew a venn diagram of the prats who inevitably had to go and get bladdered on the first night of the pubs opening, and the prats who took VE Day parties too far, went to beaches/ beauty spots parking badly and leaving a blanket of litter behind and had BBQs and houseparties throughout without any consideration of the guidelines, I bet it would be a pretty neat circle.

There always have been and always will be thoughtless dickheads, and I'd rather they are allowed back at their usual pubs where they can be policed and it's easy to send the road sweepers in at 5am, than littering up the rest of the country and giving everyone else a bad name. At least this way they're supporting more jobs and paying a premium back into the economy on their alcohol.

The goverment and SAGE know that cohort is there and will have considered it. (See, I'm an optomist )

I think it is telling that we had that blue print for initial relaxations, that little bit of mixing in May, schools then retail in June then pubs, cafes, cinema, hairdressers in July... then the trail went cold and we're now waiting for the news for the next phase which by the time that comes (with provisos about the target date) then there's a couple of weeks to prepare and issue ludicrous guidelines, it should be clear to see any impact that this phase, well the pubs really, have had.

I suspect that pubs will just be displacing a lot of the anti-social behaviour back to its natural habitat rather than creating much more. It also reduces the liklihood of rioting which felt like it had a lot of potential in June between length of time, weather and protests.

People on my FB who are dementors and huge supporters of face coverings are all "well if you don't want to wear them just stay at home and shop online".

Yup, let's all single-handedly destroy our highstreets, which are still struggling enormously. Shopping centres still not open here. The charity shop I volunteer in isn't opening for another 10 days - we need a week to set up for the new regime. If a large number of people don't want to wear masks, and just don't go back shopping, lots of shops just won't survive.

We need to be telling people from the rest of the UK and further afield that Scotland is open for business and that we'd be delighted to see you. But we're not, the government is telling you to quarantine for 14 days and don't bother coming anyway because everything's shut. And the weather's shite anyway.

Don't forget the midgies! (Or has the season peaked now for those?)

Many European countries expect you to wear masks in shops etc and they are opening up to tourists.

@trappedsincesundaymorn, I noticed that too. All the open things, in the main, benefit men. There is very little that benefits, specifically, mothers and children. However you want to spin it, mothers are still the primary caregivers for children and yet their needs seem to be considered entirely irrelevant. It irritates me immensely.

Yes Bogroll I think you're right that without some major easing riots were a possibility. Possibly the fact it's nippier in Scotland might prevent that happening here - as there appears to be no appreciation for people's forbearance with the regime. Not sure about Wales - it does seem to rain a lot from my little experience of it - maybe that would put people off rioting.

@TrustTheGeneGenie I agree with you. This has gone on long enough. We were told it was to protect the NHS. Fair enough, but it's fine now and this is too much.

Result got our money back and staying here in a pod The manager was devastated said she'd warned them to be respectful of others.

And @SockYarn yes, I can't see anyone wanting to visit Scotland just now!

Exactly @Mascotte I was happy to protect the NHS, as were most people. I didn't expect to be sat here 3 months later having given up most of my freedom, to be honest.

I've sacrificed a lot, and for what? Because I can't actually access the NHS for the healthcare I need right now.

Checking in to the new thread.

We’re going to Wilkos and the park today, such excitement.

My children only have one week of school left then 8 weeks of nothing. I have no idea what I’m going to do with them. My job is even more horrendously busy than it’s ever been.