AD's say "well open the playgrounds and swimming pools then you Malaka"

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Thank goodness for that tea, hopefully ours will confirm our booking now

The dementoring I find most ridiculous atm is the obsessive dementoring about Sweden. It’s like the rest of the world is absolutely determined to prove that they were wrong and lockdown was the right way. I think looking at the low current infection rates in London this rather flies in the face of that. New Zealand etc will basically be fucked as and when they open their borders.

And that's 166,000 people who didn't get proper funerals with much hugging and supporting during and after, at the pub. It's didsgraceful

*disgraceful

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-victims-furloughed-sports-coach-24-dies-of-dvt-lpzkx22j7

This is awful, young man in 20s dies of a DVT through being sedentary during lockdown. Made me think of the DCs must get them off the screens more.

@Teateaandmoretea

The dementoring I find most ridiculous atm is the obsessive dementoring about Sweden. It’s like the rest of the world is absolutely determined to prove that they were wrong and lockdown was the right way. I think looking at the low current infection rates in London this rather flies in the face of that. New Zealand etc will basically be fucked as and when they open their borders.

I think when all is said and done we'll all have to accept that actually Sweden did the right thing.

New Zealand did a great thing, but it's completely unsustainable if they ever want tourists again.

Barbara Kobson, senior cardiac nurse at the British Heart Foundation, said: “This is a really shocking case; I’ve not heard of someone so young dying of DVT. Normally it’s people over the age of 60, however if you’re sitting for long periods and not moving then the blood flow in the leg is going to slow down. If people are furloughed at home they need to keep active.”

I think I hit my wall yesterday.

Woke up full of rage about the schools situation and it didn't really go away all day.

Then ds2 came down in tears at 11 pm, having gone to bed at 10pm, and I was very brusque with him.

Up to now I've been sympathetic, talked to him, comforted him. But last night I didn't have anything and just got a bit cross with him. I felt awful this morning, but he seems ok.

The school sent me a survey yesterday, about what parents' feelings were about online learning, should it be required, in September, so that didn't help. I'd thought they were pretty gung ho about getting back in September.

However, in more positive news- I've booked 2 nights at a lovely airbnb near Wells for late July. We're going to Wookey Hole, and to yomp up the Tor, and generally be in the fresh air for a couple of days.

So there's that to look forward to

@Teateaandmoretea

The dementoring I find most ridiculous atm is the obsessive dementoring about Sweden. It’s like the rest of the world is absolutely determined to prove that they were wrong and lockdown was the right way. I think looking at the low current infection rates in London this rather flies in the face of that. New Zealand etc will basically be fucked as and when they open their borders.

This is what frustrates me when everybody raves about how well they have done. Yes they've pretty much eradicated it but it was easy enough to just say shut the borders when cases weren't as high as us. As soon as they let people in without quarantine it has the potential to hit hard. They are going to have some very difficult decisions to make, how long can they keep themselves cut off whilst waiting for a vaccine?

Hi everyone just checking in. Been off this for a while and you guys keep me sane! 😭 I feel like I'm between depressed and angry. My mates are like cmon.

Right I am making my two go out for a walk every day now after that news about the young man, awful. Rain or shine. Grim as it may be.

Shodan

I'm not far from Wells it's lovely. If you get time go to the Bishops Palace and see if you can catch the bell ringing swans. They swim up to the palace wall and pull on a rope, the bell rings and they get food. They're proper little show -offs.

Somebody just posted on my local Facebook group that the under 18’s should be kept locked up for longer while older working people get out and about as ‘under 18’s can’t kick start the economy like we can’. WTAF?

how long can they keep themselves cut off whilst waiting for a vaccine?

Well quite, not least because it is highly unlikely we will have a perfect vaccine for years. The early vaccines are likely to help a bit alongside some natural immunity in the population. It is unlikely to be a magic wand for countries with zero immunity

I'm sick of this "we must all stay home to protect the vulnerable because they live amongst us"

Yes, in an ideal world we'd do that but it's flaming impossible!

@BogRollBOGOF I recognised it from your description of the city centre 😂 I grew up there, moved away in the late 90s but regularly visited family until they left too.

Just realised one of the school jobs has a deadline of tomorrow. Can I summon the energy and wit to make a decent stab at the application at such short notice? Someone said upthread that lockdown was basically living in a perpetual present without a conceivable future, and that feels so accurate. It makes it hard to motivate myself.

@Drivingdownthe101 they are right, elderly people visiting garden centres are vital for the economy I’ve been told....

Yeah, we can’t stay in for years waiting for a vaccine.

I know I’ve said this before but New Zealand are between a rock and a hard place with this. I can completely understand why they took the line they did, they had the almost unique option of being able to keep the virus out of their country and keep life as normal, who wouldn’t want that? But now they’re stuck, do they risk staying mostly shut until a vaccine in a country with no heard immunity or do they open their boarders and risk ending up with outbreaks and lockdowns? It’s not a call I’d want to make.

However any idiot who says “if New Zealand can shut their boarders then the UK should have” can do one.

Dh is Australian and has been keeping up with what’s been happening over there ... the difference in the way care homes have been affected is staggering - they’ve had very few cases and a minuscule number of deaths and the rest of society is pretty much on the way back to normal normal. I’d be surprised if Australian care home residents were much more robust than those in the UK ... the level of panic, incompetence and knee jerk reactions which have led to the situation in our care homes is appalling

Orangeblossom that's shocking - but not unexpected- about that young mans death.

DS 14 has been going out to play football with his pals every afternoon on the council pitches - you can jump over the wall apparently. All the pitches are full and you have to get there early to get one. Police came once ( Scotland) and half heartedly told everyone to move on. Everyone needs exercise, it's incredible that it's breaking the law to play footie with your mates outdoors, whilst all the elderly which we are allegedly protecting are free to go to garden centres and Shops.

I may have said all the above before, but it never fails to astonish me.

Well, I'm making do with Eldon Square this morning. I shall buy knickers in markses, sandwiches in pret and fondle towels in John Lewis (and have a wee) before nipping into waitrose then catching the bus home.

@trappedsincesundaymorn Bell ringing swans?? That's definitely going on my list, thank you

I really think Boris (who I think is a tosser) would have been called every name under the sun if he’d shut the borders - racist, bigoted, xenophobic etc.

If you scroll down on the link there is a video of the swans in action.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-48363714