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ADs predict wine and rioting before 6.30pm (but only if the sun's out)

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Dowser · 28/06/2020 10:52

Over here peeps.

Not much sun today..so plenty of wine it is

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Nihiloxica · 29/06/2020 11:43

Yes, @amicissimma, anyone putting the word "just" before flu is the idiot.

Flu viruses are dangerous and kill thousands to tens of thousands of people in the UK every year.

Cold viruses (more closely related to Covid-19) also dangerous. Half of my grandparents were finally despatched by colds.

We have ALWAYS lived with infectious illnesses that can kill people with compromised health or immunity.

We don't need to learn how to live with Covid. We already know how to live with viruses that can kill a small proportion of the people who get them.

Allflightscancelled · 29/06/2020 11:44

Hello all, I've been AWOL for about a thread and a half, as I'd started to get a bit gloomy and needed to kick myself up the arse before I made everyone suicidal. My arse is now well and truly kicked Grin.

DH is a real glass half empty type person (despite the jolly, hail-fellow-well-met persona he presents to every else) so I have to keep dragging him up even if I feel shit myself. Sometimes I want to shake the bastard Hmm

Really sorry for everyone with job worries. We share them, DH was made redundant about a month ago. It is crap but we're working on some strategies now. We'll have to arrive at our own solution as we;'re both late 50s so not exactly job magnets, despite qualifications and experience galore Sad

And I'm not sure whether to be sorry or glad to hear about drink woes. I mean, I'm sorry so many are struggling/backsliding but, on the other hand, misery likes company and my drinking is off the scale. So whoever suggested dry July upthread – I'm in. I'll try, anyway.

Worldgonecrazy · 29/06/2020 11:49

We don't need to learn how to live with Covid. We already know how to live with viruses that can kill a small proportion of the people who get them.

Yes!

It feels like the world finally has gone crazy. None of it makes sense. People are absolutely terrified out there. For something that is a small risk to most people, just like every other virus out there that we manage. Sepsis kills more people every year but those don’t count as sadly-died deaths.

I feel like I’m in dystopia today, normal service will resume when the sun comes back.

Allflightscancelled · 29/06/2020 11:53

Worldgonecrazy I know!!! I keep going over and over this in my head and I still can't believe it's happening!

Right at the start I thought lockdown was a bizarre response and every morning now I wake up and still think WTAF???. It's like we really are living in a computer simulation and the bloody machine has gone rogue. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Teateaandmoretea · 29/06/2020 11:55

It’s Gilead, and we all thought that was far fetched 🤦🏻‍♀️

torydeathdrug · 29/06/2020 11:56

it's like people have noticed for the first time that there are things in the world that can make them ill & even kill them.

How can this be news to them?

TheAdventuresoftheWishingChair · 29/06/2020 11:58

If I did not get to go to 1645 and beat the crap out of blokes with ringlets, I think I should go mad(der)

Ah, I wish I knew which ones your books were. I bet they'd be right up my street. I love historical fiction.

Cattermole · 29/06/2020 12:00

haha no @Nihiloxica I'm not Philippa Gregory (if that was one of the Meridon/Wideacre books with the weird creepy incest subplot, that creeped me right out!) - more like a sort of Sharpe thing going on for mine.
It is interesting that Cromwell is reviled in Ireland (...and not without reason I might add) but it's the bits that have been selectively brushed out about the previous English war crimes that intrigues me. It did not begin with Cromwell. He carried on, if you like, in a fairly vile tradition commenced by English occupying forces some years previous.

I imagine there are all kinds of undercurrents as to why peeps are drinking more than they ought to, and I suspect one of the biggies is it's sort of an act of rebellion as well as an anaesthetic. I wonder what the incidence of people smoking more, um, mind-altering substances is?

Spudlet · 29/06/2020 12:03

I was definitely drinking too much at the start of lockdown and eating too much as well... we’ve always had a drink most evenings but it used to be one of those Aldi stubbies of beer, so like 0.5 units. But then when this kicked off we switched to Tesco for social distancing reasons and because it meant we only had to go to one shop (Aldi never has absolutely everything that we need so there’s normally a backup trip to another shop involved), so then we were drinking bigger bottles of beer and I was hitting the wine. And we were demolishing a family sized bar of chocolate between us every couple of days. And I started baking so we were having a brownie every day with our coffee Blush

I’ve cut back again now as I noticed the effects on my waist and my running. I now only drink at weekends normally, we have chocolate once or twice a week and I’ve halved my brownie consumption. But it’s so tempting to reach for the wine after a rough day with DS...!

IAintentDead · 29/06/2020 12:07

Another one with the alcohol. I always drink too much and have done for a lot of years. Weirdly I am still healthy although I weigh to much and would no doubt be healthier if I stopped.

I'm actually quite proud that I have reduced my drinking to about 3/4 a bottle of wine a day. At worst, in the midst of my self build when everything was going wrong and money I didn't own was pouring down the drain I was on a bottle and half a day.

Living alone it's the only thing I look forward to most of the time so it is hard to even contemplate life without it. I managed half a dry January, which helped a bit to reset things but I didn't sleep well at all through that time and I didn't lose any weight so I don't feel any incentive to try at the moment.

Mascotte · 29/06/2020 12:09

I said to the irl dementor today that I'd rather die than live like this and the total shock on her face was quite funny

Cattermole · 29/06/2020 12:16

@Mascotte but they never bloody believe you do they!
"You wouldn't say that if you knew someone who'd (sadly) died of THE VIRUS...."

NothingIsWrong · 29/06/2020 12:19

@Mascotte I was quite disappointed when I woke up this morning, it has to be said. I have no intention of doing anything daft, but it was just a sense of "oh fuck not again - another fucking day"

Nihiloxica · 29/06/2020 12:25

Oh I'm so glad you're not Philippa Gregory, Cattermole. I had a feeling you were not.

Your writing on this thread is so much better than hers in the book I read, which was not terribly good although it did make me think I would enjoy better historical fiction. I think it was the Virgin Earth and had a whole racist thing going on, but maybe it was trying to be in keeping with the time?

No incest, thank God. I had quite enough of that from Virginia Andrews in my teens.

BubbleIsNotAFuckingVerb · 29/06/2020 12:37

Virtual murdering hugs to everyone that needs them (ie all of us!) I'm so sorry it's so hard for everyone. How can this situation be accepted as reasonable?

On that note, I totally share the ShockHmm that the assessment of risk is so fucked up. I know it is a terrible situation and there has been a really high number of deaths and I do agree lockdown has prevented a higher number but lockdown has been at the expense of so much collateral damage. And will be in the the future.

I'm not sure how to explain this properly but someone who is is clinically extremely vulnerable it baffles me that some people who aren't, are so incredibly worried. Even as a CEV (which seems to be the new buzzword for a shielding person) I know that whilst the risk is very large for me if I do get it (esp as I'm lungs) the risk of me catching it is not as large. Usually fit and well and healthy people are coming from an even better starting point yet they are trying to make the smaller risk even smaller at so great an expense to themselves and with so little thought for the long term not just the short term.

The financial impacts will be felt by everyone (bar the very very wealthy) and we are sacrificing so much. Especially DC. It's so hard.

On that note also, my drinking started when the DC were little and everything was "wine o'clock". It was positively encouraged (I would say enabled Wink) "oh sit down with a glass of wine when they're in bed and relax" "keep calm and drink Prosecco" etc. And there was an excuse - current life being so hard and stressful. It gives us something to look forward to and delineates (and comes to symbolise) the line between stress and relaxation. Also other parents (mothers ofc) understand and we are all doing it. A sense of camaraderie. There is a generation of us who grew up with all of this in their 30s (or 20s, I had my DC young) who still have this mindset and I'm sure lots and lots of us are now problem or dependent drinkers. And gin seems to be the new wine

The similarities with the current situation are startling. I'm like a little ray of darkness aren't I Grin

I am sorry. I'm like one of those reformed evangelical ex smokers, I know Blush But not drinking has been so so beneficial for me - I know if I was drinking now it would be awful. And lots of you are mentioning it so I thought I would go on and on share what helped me. I've just realised I am trying to express solidarity but have probably depressed everyone further.

Anyway. If it helps anyone. The biggest help for me was not trying to stop drinking by concentrating on the benefits in the evening of not picking up the bottle glass - it was concentrating on the benefits of the morning after. Standing in the bathroom without a thumping head, no horrible taste in my mouth, not tired from waking in the early hours, not worrying about anything I had done the night before, not worried about still being over the limit, not bloated and guilty from eating and drinking a million calories etc etc etc. There were no positives from drinking as the sense of relaxation for a few hours when doing it wasn't worth any of that.

But the benefits of those early mornings without any of that...totally worth it. I tried not to think about how shit and boring my evenings were, but how good my mornings were. And gradually my evenings were good and my life changed.

PS I also did the but I like (eg) white wine with fish, my meals won't be the same without wine, it feels sociable to share a bottle with my friends and DH, it won't be the same, i like the routine of cooking with a glass of wine, it relaxes me and it won't be the same...

I don't mean to imply you are all problem drinkers madly enabling and excusing Grin I know it's probably only (for example) a glass of wine or a couple of G and Ts but I just think, if any time was a slippery slope, bloody hell, it's now! Dry July sounds like it might actually help lots of people as it will be beneficial even if in a small way so I thought I would share.

Cattermole · 29/06/2020 12:38

Ha! Did EVERYBODY read Virginia Andrews? It went round under the desks at our school with the relevant pages dog-eared, how the hell did they get so many books out of such a thin story I need to know!!!

PinkFondantFancy · 29/06/2020 12:40

I'm in for dry July if you guys are. I have gone the other way - I was drinking more and then realised that a) it makes me even more miserable and b) it gives me stomach ache the next day, like acid burning feeling. Great, add that to the list of shit, I'm now apparently allergic to wine.....

BubbleIsNotAFuckingVerb · 29/06/2020 12:41

Oh fuck me that was long Blush And now I want to go on and on about Philippa Gregory and hisfic and The Plantagenets. It's my favourite topic ever. Embarrassingly I do a "On this day in xxxx" on our family whatsapp group. I shall restrain myself.

Allflightscancelled · 29/06/2020 12:43

I wonder what the incidence of people smoking more, um, mind-altering substances is?

Round here, quite high! Not us, but neighbours in 2 separate houses seem to be partaking a lot. My elderly neighbour asked me what the funny smell was, at the weekend. He was very shocked when I told him Grin

Also, every time I drive along the village's Main Street I get a massive waft of weed. People who live there must be high all the time...

BubbleIsNotAFuckingVerb · 29/06/2020 12:45

It's a shame it isn't yesterday as Henry viii was born on this day in 1491Grin

110APiccadilly · 29/06/2020 12:47

Hello, haven't posted on here before (have lurked a little) but just thought I would chip in about long term effects. I was ill (hospital for 2 weeks, antibiotics for 6 months) at the age of 9. I don't think I was really clear from aftereffects until I was 15 or 16. My friend had pneumonia, which affected her (not badly, but it did) for the next 7 years. It's possible she has scarring on her lungs - they've never been scanned.

Covid can be nasty, but not uniquely so.

Allflightscancelled · 29/06/2020 12:47

@Nihiloxica I'm another who thinks Philippa Gregory doesn't write very well. I know she's a good historian and I love historical fiction so I've read a few of hers but I've stopped now because the writing itself is always a bit shit and disappointing.

Drivingdownthe101 · 29/06/2020 12:47

No that’s interesting BubbleIsNotAFuckingVerb, thank you for your perspective.
I know I have a risk of becoming a ‘problem drinker’, it’s in my genes I think. I’ve had periods in the past where I haven’t drank at all for a few months and felt great about it, and since having those ‘reset’ periods I’ve been better at moderating.
Then a global pandemic hits, people turn into dementors and I turn to wine (and gin) to block it out Grin.

Nihiloxica · 29/06/2020 12:49

It gives us something to look forward to and delineates (and comes to symbolise) the line between stress and relaxation.

That's exactly it.

The problem with the morning thing for me at the moment, is that the mornings are so grim that a hangover is almost a relief.

Like Nothing, I wake up disappointed every day now.

This is do unlike me and clear headed mornings used to motivate, but now I'd almost prefer to be hungover if I've no reason to get out of bed.

I only managed to get through two Virginia Andrews books. They were utter garbage. I wanted to read Jane Austen and the Brontës, not boring old shite about brothers and sisters shagging.

I mean I guess arguably Cathy and Heathcliff were brother and sister, but they said wonderfully passionate things like "Nelly, I am Heathcliff. He is always, always in my mind. Not always as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being."

swoon

Drivingdownthe101 · 29/06/2020 12:49

I wonder what the incidence of people smoking more, um, mind-altering substances is

The neighbours that back on to us have their young adult son staying throughout lockdown. They have a summer house at the end of the garden (just over our fence) and he basically spends all day in there on work calls and all evening in there smoking weed! My DD’s keep asking what the smell is.

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