Mr Johnson looks so ill.

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I abandoned the briefings early on but I was shocked to see him tonight. He looks ill and the strange manic grin makes it worse.

Well some of the staunch ‘Boris is trying his best in a tough situation’ posters on my social media (school parents / in-laws) are even starting to openly criticise him now, albeit over not re-opening swimming pools and nail bars. The worst death rate in Europe and blatant lies to the public must have passed them by but at least they are starting to realise how haphazard and inept this Government are!

ODFOx I’ll happily accuse him of slacking off (Cobra meetings, select committees, daily briefings) and looking tired.

'maybe he looks it as he has realised that thanks to his inept government, thousands of people have died in care homes.'

Thousands have sadly died in care homes globally. Scotland has one of the highest care home death rates. What should they have done, kept patients in the acute care hospital setting even when they were medically fit for discharge? The failure has been on the part of the privately owned care homes charging extortionate fees who haven't been able to practise adequate barrier nursing techniques for those discharged from hospital.

Any government would have acted on the same scientific advice. People seem to forget that they have put in massive economic support for businesses unlike any anywhere else. We should really wait for all European countries to release their like for like death rate stats before the media rant that we have one of the highest. They have reported all deaths in all settings, other countries haven't.

An enquiry in the future will look at what could have done better but as there wasn't a shortage of ICU beds which people were adamant there would be and the Nightingale hospitals weren't needed it perhaps wasn't as bad as it could have been.

I agree OP. The PM isn;t right by a long chalk.My sister in law had covid 19 and 4 months on has just been prescribed inhalers.She is far from well but we are lucky to have her here, she has a long way to go to regain anything like full health and she is relatively young,much like the PM.It has wiped her out no end and I think its probably the same scinario with the PM. He couldnt rest,he had to be seen and its done him no good whatsoever.I hope he is being advised behind the scenes to rest up because he will need to.Maybe now he can do a small amount of public stuff and rest a bit in private.As with anyone suffering withthis dreadful disease I would wish him and his family well.

Hopefully theyll carry on putting the daily figures here

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

As for Johnson O think he should step back citing poor health and let Rishi Sunak run the country for a while. Hes clearly ill.

'As for Johnson O think he should step back citing poor health and let Rishi Sunak run the country for a while. Hes clearly ill.'

Why would Sunak run the country when Raab stepped in last time? Of course Sunak is popular, he was always announcing the good stuff giving people financial support.

Why do you say Johnson is clearly ill? He doesn't appear breathless, he doesn't cough or look cyanosed. His delivery has always been a bit waffly at times but if you actually listen to him in The Commons he knows exaclty what he is talking about. I've never noticed any 'i don't know' responses to any questions.

As I've said in many threads I'm not a 'fangirl' but I think the Government's response particularly the massive funding of the nhs to cope with the surge has not been the disaster Piers Morgan seems to have some of you believing.

I've never noticed any 'i don't know' responses to any questions.

Sometimes an "I don't know.", especially if followed by "I will find out and get back to you." is a better answer than waffle, waffle, piffle piffle, with a a bit of Latin thrown in.

Anyone else reminded of this song by the Title of Mr. Johnson in the thread title?

I think it's his fluffy hair to be honest.

I was in a coma for 2 weeks and I wasn't discharged for 6 days after being brought out of the coma (similar sort of situation to a COVID coma - lungs not functioning, but I went into complete organ failure). I couldn't walk for about about 5 days after coming out of the coma - plus I was delusional when I came out of the coma for about 2 days where I believed the 'dreams' I had while under were real. I was also very tearful, so I think he's done well not to be crying at the drop of a hat.

I don't think he's particularly suited for a political position of any description.

Our leader can not be both an object of pity and a leader.

The other thing about being in a coma, is that you don't realise that you've been in one - I know that when I woke up, I was like 'I'm discharging myself, this is taking too long'. It took my ex and doctors and nurses all explaining to me that I had been in a coma to convince me. I'm not sure how 3 days compares to 2 weeks, but you can't eat much in the way of solid food. I also had a tube up my butt for poop for a few days until I begged them to take it out as it was stinging my ass like hell. I still have sort of scars in my butt crack from being scalded by stray poop I suppose. I don't know. It's not the idyllic long sleep that you might expect as the drugs they give you to keep you under are fairly strong I'm guessing.

'was also very tearful, so I think he's done well not to be crying at the drop of a hat.'

He wasn't in an induced coma or ventilated. He went to ICU to be monitored, I'm presuming for blood gas checks as arterial lines cannot be managed on wards. All HDUs became ICUs to manage the demand of covid otherwise he would no doubt have been a HDU patient.

So while I'm sorry you've had such a tough it isn't comparable.

I have to admire his ability to recall the questions he is asked, however much off on a tangent he goes. His brain hasn't been affected. He's the same waffler he has always been. My concentration isn't the best.
The Irish Taoiseach has developed a nice wee head of curly hair during lockdown lol. But he's sharp as a blade. He also will admit to not having precise figures if asked something by the media and will say 'I don't have those figures in front of me, but I'll get them and come back to you'. Alas, we're going to have Michael Martin as our new Taoiseach by all accounts, although nobody really wants him.

Oh right - I presumed he'd been in a coma. That's a very different state of affairs then.

I know it would be Raab.. I suppose I was just expressing a preference.

I quite like the look of Rishi. But I'm a superficial sort. Raab has as much charisma as a loaf of bread. And is Gove the mousey little fellow? I don't like him.

Sure he might still be recovering and up all night with a baby(don't believe that) for a second, it's no excuse, too many people are relying on him, if he is not in a fit state to run the country he needs to step aside.

Boris inevitably looks tired. He has been very ill, is a new father and is PM during this pandemic. Anyone would look tired.
I think he is doing a great job and as long as he doesn't extend the transition period with the EU I will continue to support him.

Well if that's the case, and he wasn't actually on a ventilator or in a coma, he should be well recovered by now. No excuse for him.

His fluffy hair could do with a bit of gel.

He really hasn't been 'very ill'. He was hospitalised probably because he was PM. Joe Soap or Billy Bubbles would have been told to manage their symptoms at home I suspect.

Looking at Whitty's take on it. I particularly like/raise eyebrows at the 'We are not comms experts' from May
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/eight-times-chris-whitty-has-diverged-from-the-government-line-on-covid-19/ar-BB15Uc8n

@GimmeAy

He really hasn't been 'very ill'. He was hospitalised probably because he was PM. Joe Soap or Billy Bubbles would have been told to manage their symptoms at home I suspect.

Well you've just said you didn't realise he wasn't on a ventilator, make your mind up.

What a low opinion you have of our excellent NHS staff that you think they'd all go along with some kind of exaggerated illness, attention seeking stunt.

A criticial care consultant would not have had him monitored if he didn't need it.

Can you tell he what he has done that is so great @yellowhammers ? Genuine question as the failure to lockdown soon enough, care home deaths, total overall deaths, lifting lockdown against medical advice etc don't seem great to me

@yellowhammers

Boris inevitably looks tired. He has been very ill, is a new father and is PM during this pandemic. Anyone would look tired. I think he is doing a great job and as long as he doesn't extend the transition period with the EU I will continue to support him.

What has he done well on?

Testing, Death rates, PPE, Track and Trace, education, care homes...you think he did a great job?

As for his being a new father, when I see any evidence he stepped up to parent his other children...

The real issue is his pathological lying and idleness. He wanted the office as a trinket, and he's quite prepared to destroy the country to keep it.

There are many factors at play here. I do find it rather quaint the way people assume he is tired because of a new baby in the house. How , for one milli second , do you assume these people live? They do not get their hands dirty for a start.

He wanted to be Churchill and fools followed him because he was Boris and a bit of a laugh and liked a pint and the opposition was shambolic.

The worst death rate in Europe,no PPE, Care Homes thrown on the scrap heap, lie after lie. But still, stout fellow and all that Boris.

They're smudging the figures constantly.
If it's any consolation, Ireland who has had very low death rates relatively speaking have had the highest numbers of cases of COVID among medical professionals in the world.

www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-s-health-workers-have-world-s-highest-rate-of-covid-19-committee-hears-1.4286233

Fuck knows how we managed that!