Mr Johnson looks so ill.

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I abandoned the briefings early on but I was shocked to see him tonight. He looks ill and the strange manic grin makes it worse.

www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

Apart from that he's a great leader with real integrity.

I was talking about Dominic Cummings.
And yes Boris is a great leader. I expect him to be re elected at the next GE in four years time.

What do you think makes him a great leader? I'm genuinely interested .

Jeremy Corbyn is no longer leader of the Labour Party but he has a much higher public profile than Dominic Cummings and his irresponsible actions may have influenced others. I think the bigger problem is that the prime minister fully supported and endorsed Dominic Cummings in his rule breaking. Are you saying JC's profile is equivalent to the PM's?

yellowhammers - Can anyone explain to me why they are not at all interested in the fact that Jeremy Corbyn broke lockdown at least twice and was photographed doing so. He is an elected member, an MP. He had no reason and no excuse.

Probably less interest in him as he was not part of the team creating the Stay at Home rules that the rest of the country were following. Corbyn is wrong to break the rules as are other people who should be setting an example to the public.

Dominic Cummings is only an advisor.

1. That did not apologise for not complying with the Stay at Home rules he had an instrumental role in creating.
2. That is being paid for by the public purse.
3. That the public cannot vote out.
4. That did not resign unlike the Scottish health advisor or Ferguson who both brought the Government into disrepute over their non-compliance with lockdown rules(and that Government Ministers agreed that resignation was the correct course of action for)

Is it that you agree with Corbyn's politics?
Nope

Or is it one rule for the Left and another for everyone who supports the Government, or maybe only those who support Brexit.
It became blatantly clear it was one rule for Dominic Cummings and another for everybody else (including other Government aides). Anybody in public office not complying with the regulations and setting the right example during a health pandemic should be properly held accountable for their actions or at the very least apologise if they do not meet the standards everybody else was asked to meet in extremely difficult circumstances.

It was actually Johnson & Cabinet members' response to the Cummings debacle that was the worst aspect - dismissing an upset & angry public and telling them to 'move on' was a low point in British democracy.
Many people won't be forgetting the 'Durham Dash' or our Government's hypocritical response to it

There was no upset and angry public. That is an exaggeration.
Most people have never heard of Dominic Cummings. There was a lot of media interest trying to get him sacked because of his role in Brexit and their opposition to it.
Boris is a great leader because he listened to what the majority of the electorate wants.....Brexit.
He renegotiated and delivered. And he will not go for an extension.

Boris is a great leader because he listened to what the majority of the electorate wants Do you think he delivered what the majority of the electorate wanted when it came to Covid? Or is he just a one trick pony?

There was no upset and angry public. That is an exaggeration.

I must assume that my DB's MP was lying to him, when he replied offering criticism of Cummings and saying that his postbag had been overwhelmed with letters and emails complaining about Cummings behaviour. He is a Tory too, but part of the "Red Wall" so he probably knows he has to shape up pretty fast or he will be out next time.

Your side won yellowhammers.The way you are talking you would think they lost.

yellowhammers - There was no upset and angry public. That is an exaggeration.Most people have never heard of Dominic Cummings. There was a lot of media interest trying to get him sacked because of his role in Brexit and their opposition to it.

You are mistaken.
81% of Mumsnetters thought he'd broken the rules www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/uk/81-of-parents-would-not-have-travelled-for-lockdown-emergency-childcare/

www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-dominic-cummings-must-go

Is the heat making you feel particularly forgetful today?Conservative MPs & party members called for his resignation. A Cabinet Minister resigned over it. As well as plenty of people with other political allegiances. Many, many people were simply angry as they complied and stayed at home and didn't 'follow their instincts' to drive around the country! It wasn't one rule for him and another for the rest of us.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8359511/Majority-Conservative-supporters-believe-Dominic-Cummings-sacked.html

Of course there was a public outcry as there was with Government advisors Ferguson and Calderwell. Please explain why there wouldn't have been?

You are going to have to wait a bit longer to re-write history over Cummings behaviour & Johnson's contemptuous treatment of the public over it. It's pretty fresh in my memory!

Are you seriously suggesting that Mumsnet is representative of "the public".
Oh Dear

Peregrina, I am not on a side. I am just a member of the electorate who votes.
I just expect politicians to carry out what the public votes for and that which they promise to do.
And yes I am happy with Boris' handling of the coronavirus.

I didn't think he looked ill. Mind you if my inaction had let to the number of deaths there have been in the UK, I doubt if I would be cheerful.

And yes I am happy with Boris' handling of the coronavirus. Happy with the high number of deaths, the lack of PPE, the lack of direction given to schools so provision was patchy, the lack of protection for care homes, the lack of testing, the piss poor track and trace app. Which bit were you happy with?

Tell me when you voted for Cummings yellowhammer?

yellowhammers Are you seriously suggesting that Mumsnet is representative of "the public". Oh Dear

Could you not explain away the rest of my post about Conservative party members and Tory MPs being appalled at Cummings actions? Along with members of the general public who had missed events like funerals and births as they followed the instructions he helped set. Or explain why public outcry would be any different in his case to other aides seen to be flouting the rules?
Oh dear.

I personally have missed two funerals of elderly ladies that I knew for more than 40 years. I have not seen my family since the end of March, but unelected Cummings, supposedly ill, could drive the length of the country and see his. Too right I am annoyed, and I haven't suffered nearly as much as others. These include people who have had major ops delayed and cancer treatment delayed.

Peregrina, why are you twisting my words again.
I said I am not on a "side". I am a voter.
Please tell me where I said I voted for Dominic Cummings ...go on show me. You can't because you made it up.

The other two people broke the rules. One went to see his mistress and they were both part of a "free sex" organisation. The Scottish woman went to her holiday home every weekend...not just two and her neighbours alerted the media.

Dominic Cummings was not I'll when he set off to his family home for childcare. No rules broken.

I have no doubt that some MPs were annoyed. My MP wasn't and yes I have spoken to her about it.

Peregrina .....I have no idea whether your brother's MP lied or not. I have no interest in it either way. If you want to know then ask either your brother or his MP.

I am no more twisting your words than you are mine. You want a PM who executes the public's wishes. We have a country run by an unelected adviser. How is he executing the public's wishes? How are you going to hold him responsible?

You are desperate to make excuses for Cummings, declaring that an upset and angry public being dismissed as an exaggeration. Why?

Dominic Cummings by his own admission broke the lockdown in London, by rushing home when his wife was supposedly ill, and then going back to Downing Street. According to the rules at the time, he should have stayed at home and then isolated. He can't make an excuse for his drive to Barnard Castle. What a pity someone spotted him.

If they were ill they then potentially took the disease to County Durham which at the time hadn't had many cases and London when London was a hotspot.

One went to see his mistress and they were both part of a "free sex" organisation Tell us more!

I can't understand why anyone would defend these self serving clowns.