The ADs seek joy and aubergines

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We got a bit cut off there didn't we? Thread 15 now.

@trappedsincesundaymorn

www.hsj.co.uk/news/covid-hospital-deaths-declining-at-record-rate/7027212.article

Wonder what mental gymnastics will be used to suck the positivity out of this then.

I can see the words "calm before the storm" being used here.

On a totally random note, does anyone here remember well the BSE/CJD crisis?

We had a lot more beef for Sunday lunch as it was much cheaper - we didn't tend to eat bugers and I think mince tended to be pork mince.

My parents attitude was we'd been eating beef for years so it was a bit late to worry about it now. I do remember being worried but ate what we were given.

Before that the prevaling concern was Dad's work in an industry that once employed most of the area was in steep decline most of my childhood. MIL industry different part of UK was the same - neither managed to be employed in it till retirement.

Found you! Nice thread title. I like aubergines.

It's just really surprised me @Jourdain11
I have lost a lot of weight but sensibly. Eating good healthy food, but not depriving myself. Still having the odd takeaway or nice to out or chocolate. Exercising regularly. It surprised me how much I've embraced that.
I started off with a bit of cardio and weights at the gym and now do regular interval and resistance training. Ive always been so proud of how I've done it. I haven't dieted, I've made good lifestyle changes and we are all healthier for it.
Tbh if it wasnt for exercise I'd have lost my mind by now.
But now I find that I've become really conscious of what I eat in a way I never have before and it scares me a little.
For instance the week before last DH suggested a "lock down date night" where wed get a takeaway from our favourite restaurant and a bottle of wine after DS went to bed, dress up, the works.
It scared me a little that I had a worry that if I had a takeaway and wine for dinner then maybe after breakfast I should just have some fruit for the rest of the day.
I have never ever thought that way before and I know it sounds pathetic but that scared me.

On a totally random note, does anyone here remember well the BSE/CJD crisis?

Bet Neil Ferguson does.

Yeah we’re wankers about meat too - get most of it from the lovely butchers nearby, but otherwise Booths or Waitrose.

That butchers was fantastic when we were self isolating as I had Covid symptoms, they delivered. And their ham is dry (in a good way) and lush.

Marking spot again. I remember the BSE crisis well too, I have a family member who has never touched a product containing beef ever since. It was really scary. In a previous job (in the 90s) I as responsible for ensuring that any raw materials and packaging used by my company were fully traceable with regard to any bovine derived materials, it was quite an eye opener in regard to how widely used they are in plastics.

more about cases in hospitals - non care home deaths are falling "at record rates"

www.hsj.co.uk/news/covid-hospital-deaths-declining-at-record-rate/7027212.article

Only four hospital deaths in my area (population 0.8 million) in the last week!

That bar chart on the article is by STP - you can find which one you're in here www.england.nhs.uk/integratedcare/stps/view-stps/

@LivinLaVidaLoki it wasn't, DD1 has good pastry hands and makes a delicious shortcrust. I had it with a lovely lot of undressed mixed salad leaves so overall think its OK.

@Weedsnseeds1 thanks for all of your notes on the meat industry very interesting. We eat more chicken now as we have been trying to cut down on red meat. We do still eat lamb or beef but now once a week at most. We also eat vegetarian, vegan and fish more regularly. Chicken remains popular as there is so much you can do with it. We would miss this if there was a shortage.

I am very innocent I had no idea Aubergines had any other meaning!!!

Sorry pressed post before I'd finished.
Ferguson said 50k would die of BSE.

The actual death toll.....
177

gah in my excitement to be the bearer of good news I didn't read back far enough ... sorry

@LivinLaVidaLoki

On a totally random note, does anyone here remember well the BSE/CJD crisis?

Bet Neil Ferguson does.

I think he predicted 50,000 deaths from BSE? He has real form as a dementor!

@bakewelltarts
Its criminal how our govt blindly believe him.
He predicted that up to 150,000 people could die of foot and mouth. There were fewer than 200 deaths. . . .

In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code, after a six-week delay.

I spotted this today and thought it was apt for this thread - another reason that looking on the positives has benefits long term as well as for general mental health.
A study published this week concluded that having constant negative thoughts over a prolonged period may increase the risk of developing dementia.
www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8441875/Is-glass-half-half-answer-affect-risk-getting-dementia.html
So keep up with the positive thoughts It really can't be good for anyone to constantly look at the negatives.

I am at a loss to understand how is is still being litsened to as well. It is surely only a matter of time before this really hits the headlines and he is discredited. As I think he deserves to be. The risk of which is that he undermines confidence in scientists overall. Which would not be a good thing.

I hope Ferguson has to take the hot seat in an enquiry. I hope he is grilled, long and hard, to continue the meat theme.

One of my first jobs was reading the breakfast news on a local radio station in a predominantly rural area, just as the BSE crisis started - you try saying bovine spongiform encephalopathy at 5:30am when you’ve got a hangover 😬

Reading this thread has made me glad I’ve been vegetarian for decades... I stopped eating meat for aesthetic reasons as a teenager (I was going through a phase where everything disgusted me). So I never learned to cook it and don’t actually think of meat as food so I never miss it. I am much less sentimental about farm animals than some of my meat-eating friends are though. I do have a problem with factory farming methods but am not bothered by people eating meat which has been ethically produced - I just don’t want to eat it myself

Oh my God, he's a professional dementor! Just send him off to guard Azkaban already...

Speaking of stats, this lockdown has totally thrown people who have EDs under the bus. Anorexia nervous has the highest mortality rate of any psychiatric illness and isolation is a major risk factor. But apparently shutting people up and removing all their face to face treatment and coping strategies was necessary to protect them from This Terrible Disease.

Now I'm not saying that 13 weekd of lockdown have made me sedentary, but there is a small spider contructing a web between my chair and my phone!

We've been on a carb fest. Between feeding for 4 all the time and my queue avoidence strategy of going to the supermarket in the evening, I'm finding it difficult to buy and prepare veg that we mutually like plus my general absence og mojo to do with anything esoecially in the kitchen. I'm a few lbs more than normal and would like but OK and it's no surprise given that I have no purpose to go walking around everywhere like usual, no races to train for and am frankly boredom eating for a bit of sensory stimulation.

DM banned beef in the house through the 90s, and I didn't eat it until I went to uni at the end of the decade until it was cheaper.

Struggling on mojo today. DS has complained about his ankle for a couple of days and my "housework" battery is flat. It always was sluggish to charge anyway!

Jourdain we went to a wedding in France at the height of BSE, French friend. Her relatives kept asking if we ate British beef. We did feel like we were being checked over for sign's of madness

Well I'm feeling very positive today. We have cancelled our long-standing Guardian subscription due to the overwhelming negativity that has been brewing for the last couple of years. Our holiday to France in about 5 weeks looks certain to go ahead now, based on what I've read elsewhere. And I'm about to head off to my spiritual home John Lewis for some retail therapy.

Great news that you are released Jourdain, and really hope the catheter is very temporary.

I did actually know someone who died of CJD, but don't know anyone who died of COVID19

Hurrah - new thread! Place marking x

@DrearyWallAntler - is banana curry a rea thing?

@NellyLongarms

I spotted this today and thought it was apt for this thread - another reason that looking on the positives has benefits long term as well as for general mental health. A study published this week concluded that having constant negative thoughts over a prolonged period may increase the risk of developing dementia. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8441875/Is-glass-half-half-answer-affect-risk-getting-dementia.html So keep up with the positive thoughts It really can't be good for anyone to constantly look at the negatives.

Aha, caught you all!

So there actually is a real life link between being a Dementor and dementia... Who knew. Positive thoughts are good for you.

I love the references to joy. For the next thread, I wonder if we should consider saying something about being positive, just as our Patronus Sikora is known as the positive professor. And I reckon there are probably some people who would like a bit of positivity and lockdown scepticism but who don't click on the threads because they don't know what they are