The ADs seek joy and aubergines

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We got a bit cut off there didn't we? Thread 15 now.

hi all, I know it's late. I've had a really tough weekend. Haven't seen a bloody soul. I'm not allowed to work so am worrying about money, my mum is phoning me with her pessimistic phone calls about how we're never going to be let out....and I'm just so bloody lonely. Really low.

How can I not have interacted with a single human in person all weekend? All these BBQs I can hear Was going to meet some friends tomorrow evening but they have bailed because of family commitments. Bah.

@HesterShaw1
Hi, I haven't spoken to anyone since Friday Night either.

It's so hard when money is a worry too. If this had happened last year I wouldn't be here now.

As it is I have very little coming in and am living mainly on savings apart from £200 a month coming in.

Things will get better and keep talking - we are (this group) all in it together.

@HesterShaw1 keep talking to us at least. Sorry your friends bailed :( any chance they can catch up with you this week instead?

@iAintentDead you're exactly right. I find it very disturbing how easily most people have accepted it. And questioning the narrative/school etc is deemed totally unacceptable apparently too.

Karonavirus

Similarly the same bullshit with face masks. Only now do we have to wear face masks on public transports 🤦‍♀️ It makes no sense

It certainly doesn’t...

So , is there another agenda?
I hope to god, there isn’t...I just wish I could get rid of that niggling feeling...

@dowser you are so right. Reading that is like a lightbulb going on, it feels exactly like grief. I'll have look at that Icke vid, thanks

@BogRollBOGOF how dare you with your public FUN. 😁 I bet you were all laughing and everything sounds fantastic, what a lovely memory for you children (and you!)

I ain’t dead
Isolating from family - then isolating from friends - make you think that everyone out there is out to do you harm but only the government I have your wellbeing at heart. You know I am good for you and you need me. All your family and friends been frightened off deserted you.

Here’s another one to add to the list
Only the government ( nhs) can cure you.....but hang on a minute..that’s been taken away from us..our friendly gp’s, dentists, osteopaths

While at the moment, I don’t think All of this is strictly true, there’s a worrying undertone. One I’m certainly keeping my eye on. I’m in a lot of natural healing groups, they are already setting up alternative sites in case they get pulled.

I hope I’m wrong, I’m really do . As someone said upthread ( poss orange blossom), the first tenet of healing is..first do no harm
How much of the stuff doled out to us is toxic or with nasty side effects.
I remember 30 years ago having stiff swollen fingers on a morning. Went to my Gp and was given naproxen for arthritis.I read the instructions and one of the side effects was causing stomach problems. I never took them. I saw my homeopath got a remedy and it’s been fine ever since.

I’m so sorry I ain’t dead and Hester that you never spoke to anyone all weekend. That’s not good or healthy as I’m Sure you will agree.

What would you have normally done in normal circumstances.

My dh when his 1st wife died would finish work on a Friday and pop into the pub on his way home, and then pop in sat and sun lunch otherwise he too wouldn’t have seen anyone to talk to.
Now, that’s all taken away.

Actually it’s not so much that’s it’s all been taken away..it’s the fact it hasn’t been given back.
Feet are being dragged. We are being fed tidbits like lapdogs instead of seeing it for the bollox it is.
It’s summer. Respiratory diseases are low.
We’ve done what we set out to do, flatten the curve
Get businesses, schools, art, culture back to normal..anything that is contrived and presented to us as ‘ new normal’ isn’t
It’s oppression and is taking the piss.

Pink fondant
Anger and depression are at the opposite ends of the same scale.
If we swallow anger it leads to depression something that most of us are feeling ( those of us that can still feel, if we haven’t been numbed into submission with a chemical cosh)

Course if we get angry , society doesn’t like it, there’s severe punishments for angry people , so that keeps us in our pen

We need to channel that anger to keep depression at bay. This I think is why we suffer mood swings, we are elated because life seems to be getting back to normal but then we look around and see all the new ‘roolz’ and anger kicks in..and we don’t go tearing down the tape that binds our children’s playgrounds, that WEVE paid for..because we might pay the penalty for doing that, so then we turn It in on our selves. Grieving for the old ways, unresolved grief leads to depression.

We get a ‘bit of normal ‘ in a very uncertain world, where right now we feel powerless and then we look around and see all the ‘ not normal’ things and it just serves to crush our spirit.
We take it in like a sponge. Our minds try to process it. We can’t, because we know it’s not right.

Why?
Because our coping strategies have been taken away from us..

This is our fun time of the year. Long warm days, full of fun and events.
I want them back.

Wow, @Dowser. You are spot on. Thank you

Times dementing about a second wave this winter today

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/winter-coronavirus-second-wave-could-swamp-nhs-tsqclv6gv

and some weekly testing of the masses via saliva www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/weekly-saliva-checks-are-first-step-towards-national-coronavirus-testing-m78tt3vqx

Shodan I'm grabbing on to every loosening of the restriction. So planning a trip - maybe with friends if I can book for them- to Edinburgh zoo the first weekend we can, leaving our own personal teenage zoo dementor at home. I don't think I've been able to enjoy a leisurely trip round the zoo for years as when DS was young and we had annual membership, a visit involved dotting from play area to play area, with animals as an incidental.

I'm proud of how I spruced up my friends trip to Dundee. They have a legitimate- if slightly boring - reason to go for a day trip taking the DCs with them. I suggested she stop at Loch Leven's Larder for lunch ( toilets !) and the mini golf at Dunfermline on the way back.

There are things to do - also need to see how I get a slot to go to the Botanics - and for me it really helps if I focus on looking forward to them, as at least now there are small chinks of light to look forward to. Plus even in Scotland, there are many shops open if you know where to look, so I do a bit of retail therapy at the weekend. I'll wear a mask if I'm told to, but tried it and don't like it.

Oh totally agree about surpressed emotions and depression. Had a very good book about how feeling our core emotions- fear, sadness, anger and happiness - was so important and if we suppress that or turn it into shame, blame, or control mechanisms it just gets worse.

DH here in about going to France this summer. We usually go to very remote place but stay in a village. Swim in pools in gorges. It's amazing but unsure about Ryanair, insurance and quarantine.

In this house it seems I am more the cautious one.

Urgh. I had a serious of really upsetting dreams last night. I'm all out of kilter this morning. I have shit loads to do and I'm cowering in bed.

Orangeblossom78 yes foreign holidays now a source of friction and worry. We changed our Easyjet tickets for the 9000th time to Majorca start of July and put the deposit down on a villa that's fully refundable until 2nd July.

I do not want to lose that deposit money and DH doesn't want to lose that particular villa. i suspect we'll be right up to the wire before we make the decision, and DH will sulk when I cancel it, as we can keep the flights until 2 weeks beforehand and get another villa if need be.

It's quarantine that worries me. DS is due to go back to school 12 days after we go back - granted we'd only miss 2 days, but he has missed so much already, I want him to see and get used to any changes at the same time as his pals.

Then there's the thread where you're a full blown idiot to even countenance going away and I am mildly worried about the insurance as ours has turned out to be a bit rubbish.

So I wish I hadn't suggested the holiday in a mad moment, and want to book a cottage in the Highlands so we'd at least have some certainty.

I'm trying to take the attitude of making the best of what we can do within the limits, and so have got two uk holidays planned - one in July in wales (if the welsh dementor opens the borders) and Lancashire in August. A week in a caravan but I've made a list of things we can do come rain or shine even if there's nothing open. The change of scenery and excitement is half the battle won already I think. Making slow steps to normality.

Morning all, I think making the best of the limits at any given time is a good strategy. I know for myself that if there is a second wave / local lockdown / re-imposition of restrictions I will be kicking myself if I didn't get out and about while I can.

Expletivedelighted it's a good point. It's why I was particularly enraged when England allowed people to go anywhere, and we're still allegedly restricted to 5 miles in Scotland. If the numbers had gone up in England, we'd end up paying for it in further prolonged restrictions, without even having had the fun of figuring out where to pee on a day out.

So if other people are flying abroad, then I will if I can, although I hope the governments ability to reintroduce lockdown - once we're out - is limited and that's why Scotland is being so cautious.

Little Wall antlers school is still holding inset days.

Are you fucking kidding me right now? There hasn't been enough time for cpd, lesson planning and assorted paperwork over the last three months?

I AM SICK TO FUCKING DEATH OF THE WORD SAFE!

That is all.

@NothingIsWrong

Urgh. I had a serious of really upsetting dreams last night. I'm all out of kilter this morning. I have shit loads to do and I'm cowering in bed.

Me too! Nothing but one bad dream after another. Some of them about a Covid resurgence. Ugh.

The holiday thread is kind of mental. Lots of people swearing they won't be going abroad until there's a vaccine. Oh well, cheaper deals for me, I guess... I too can't see any point in staying at home in anticipation of a wave that may never come, especially since we all already had almost-certainly-Covid and weren't rocked to our foundations.

One thing I'm noticing a lot of lately (especially after reading a thread here about catching it from surfaces), is that at the beginning very little was known of covid so things like sitting on benches and touching your shopping were "dangerous" and shouldn't be done. So people militantly stuck to this.
However the science and advice changes all the time (ie you cant get it from touching a country gate) but no one believes this, they see it as "the govt changing the goalposts to restart the economy and putting us all at risk".
They cannot seem to grasp that we now have a better understanding of transmission etc and so can amend the guidelines. They cannot figure the guidance will change as we learn more through this. They think that what we knew at the beginning is absolute and so now anything that deviates from this must be for nefarious reasons.

The worst one was me thinking that there was no point in being around any more. And me asking for help from people, and them all agreeing that while it was sad and they would miss me, I should probably just get on with it.

Well also for holidays, as the infection rate is currently a lot higher in the UK than the rest of Europe, then it's surely safer from a covid point of view to visit say Amsterdam rather than Ambleside.

@NothingIsWrong, that sounds a horrible dream. DH gave me a card to keep in my purse which says Tell the Negative Committee in Your Head to Sit Down and Shut Up! If I knew you irl, I would hand it over to you.

@LivinLaVidaLoki I agree andI think that's what frustrates me most of all. Especially when it's told to me as if I'm Very Stupid!