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BogRollBOGOF · 20/06/2020 11:28

We got a bit cut off there didn't we? Thread 15 now.

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Dowser · 21/06/2020 21:42

Nannyphlegm
ia is a fascinating case. They have a superb track record of suppressing infectious diseases. Have you heard of the Nipah virus in 2018, a novel virus that emerged in a southern states in India? If you haven't, it's because India quashed it at source with localised lockdowns.
Why they followed other countries with a national lockdown when they have established protocols, is a mystery to me.

India also has a lot of homeopaths

Orangeblossom78 · 21/06/2020 21:44

India saying we should all try yoga to help us with the virus

Dowser · 21/06/2020 21:45

Well it might help with the stress lol

NannyPhlegm · 21/06/2020 21:48

The current PM of India is obsessed with yoga, to the point that it's ripe for satire.

We basically live in an episode of The Thick of It

IAintentDead · 21/06/2020 21:48

@Dowser

Well it might help with the stress lol
And lower stress levels means better immune responses
Dowser · 21/06/2020 21:50

This popped up on one of my fb end The lockdown groups

in Scotland everyone is having 'illegal' house parties in secret... its funny really that sturgeon thinks people are sticking to the rules

Teateaandmoretea · 21/06/2020 21:51

Tbf if the first rule of medicine is to do no harm ....

Dowser · 21/06/2020 21:51

Absolutely
I ain’t dead

Willow2017 · 21/06/2020 21:52

Nobody told Me!!!😤😤😤

NannyPhlegm · 21/06/2020 21:57

Tbf if the first rule of medicine is to do no harm

GrinGrinGrin

rookiemere · 21/06/2020 22:04

As a non Scottish person living in Scotland, the cognitive dissonance is strong. Everyone proudly states how much better Nicola is than Boris, though to be fair Morph in a paper bag would be better at clear communication than Boris.

Even last night my friends thought her policy for getting out of this was going well and clearly felt me churlish for challenging the wisdom of going to the expense of putting together a four phase easing out of lockdown approach, when your only actual action could me summarised in three words - Follow England Later.

Likewise everyone is applauding her painfully cautious delay by a thousand papercuts approach whilst blithely doing what they want. The 5 mile guideline is merely a guideline- so why bother having such a restrictive and arbitrary distance, why not make it half an hours drive each way which allows people to go a bit further and stay within the guidelines.So then if you're breaking one guideline, well why not break another.

I'm genuinely a little impressed by how Northern Ireland are handling this - of course an island with low numbers - but Scotland has low numbers as well, not that you'd know from the level of restrictions still in place.

PinkFondantFancy · 21/06/2020 22:12

Hi all I lost you there for a few threads!

I've had a hard day of it all today so glad to have got back to a place of like minded souls. I'm a social pariah on my school WhatsApp for daring to ask why it is that non key worker kids don't get a crack at going to school, but if I waved a key worker letter mine could be in full time. Apparently it's maybe "because the teachers have been RISKING THEIR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF THEIR FAMILIES for the children so far and DON'T WANT TO EXPOSE THEM TO EVEN MORE RISK" Confused

Hitting a wall with it all now, really really want my old life back, it was nice and full of lovely organised fun. Sick of my children seeing me crying every day. I don't even know what I'm crying about....

Anyway that was not a very cheery contribution, sorry. On the upside, weather's going to be glorious this week so it's a good incentive to stop procrastinating and get my work done so I can sit outside.

ProfessorRadcliffeEmerson · 21/06/2020 22:24

PinkFondantFancy, I hit the same wall earlier this week, so much sympathy. DD's school has put getting any other kids back in the "too difficult" box, and I'm so angry and sad for her as she'll have had no teaching from March to September. The school are sending work, but there's no direct contact with the class teachers at all, and nothing gets marked. (Because safeguarding, obviously - and yet they clearly aren't taking their safeguarding responsibilities seriously in other ways: for all they know we've been beating and starving her since lockdown started.) The work was pretty unimpressive to start with and is getting thinner and thinner.

I'm feeling a bit better today, partly because I've spent eye-watering amounts on a mix of real and virtual summer camps for her, and made firm arrangements for her to see some of her friends over the next week while the weather's good. But like you I liked my old life and I'm sick of people telling me that this grey substitute is fine because AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT DEAD.

Nihiloxica · 21/06/2020 22:28

I'm genuinely a little impressed by how Northern Ireland are handling this

The built-in counterweight to nationalist willy waving helps. As does the ability to move out of lockdown with Ireland.

Ireland's CMO, Tony Holohan, has been impressive throughout. He and Whitty used to sing from the same hymn sheet at the start.

Some bunch of rando epidemiologists wrote a letter to the Irish Times urging longer lockdown to aim for eradication and he was like "eh... no".

PinkFondantFancy · 21/06/2020 22:30

I do find the safeguarding thing really interesting, and terribly sad. Same as you, my children's school know absolutely nothing about whether my children are still alive, let alone reaching out to offer some moral support and see if there's anything they can do to help out. I've told them repeatedly that my kids aren't doing any schoolwork whatsoever because DH and I are working all the hours under the sun and can't find/supervise/teach the bits of work they've set, and even with that I don't get any kind of "is there anything we can do? Are the kids doing ok" - they don't want to know. Anyway, felt good to get that off my chest!

Shodan · 21/06/2020 22:30

Good evening lovelies Smile

First (and I know it was waaaaaaayyyy up there ^^) @AnxiousElephant77 Did I not tell you that The Oracle (aka me) said your wedding would go ahead as planned and be fantastic? I'm never wrong you know Grin

@PinkFondantFancy I'm sorry you've had a shitty day. Despite what a few weirdoes die-hard dementors (are we allowed to say that still? Or has it been banned now?) think, we are on our way out of this now. We will get back to normal fairly soon, I'm convinced of it. Take heart and ignore the doom-mongers.

I've had a very relaxed day; did some training tonight out on a field, and spent the rest of the day (apart from a very sluggish run this morning) on the sofa, watching Buffy (for the 546th time).

Karate class is ON next weekend and a couple of weeks after that my friend is going to come over and watch scary films, eat takeaway and stay over (no idea if it'll still be illegal by then tbh)

At least when the summer holidays officially start I can take ds2 out more, rather than boringly tell him to do his schoolwork. We might not be having an actual summer holiday but by george we'll have as much fun as I can manage.

PinkFondantFancy · 21/06/2020 22:32

@Shodan that's a great idea for a more positive focus - thinking about how I can make summer as fun as it possibly can be despite the circumstances. Great to hear Karate is on!

mightbealittlebitmad · 21/06/2020 22:49

All these talks of more lockdowns and more social distancing and I think I can't do it but then I wonder how practical it would be for everyone. The more you isolate people from their friends and family the more depressed they will be, they will see suicides sky rocket. Plus there is the cost to paying everyone to stay at home, no way will whole industries close with no funding but the funding can't keep coming and going indefinitely.

This surely had to be our one chance, I don't think having a "proper" lockdown would have made much difference. Thousands of people haven't died because we went for a walk with our children. Of course we could have been welded into our houses like some would have loved but I very much doubt they would have loved it after the first few days. Mental health issues would have been through the roof and what kinds of jobs are essential anyway. Would be not have the rubbish collected, internet, electricity just so that only the hospital's could function?

I think ultimately we have done the best we can, there were many mistakes made throughout and leading up to lockdown but the actual lockdown itself with only leaving the house for work, exercise and shopping was the right thing to do in my eyes. The loosening also had to be done by a certain point, by allowing people to meet outdoors it reduced the risk of them doing it on the sly indoors which holds a greater risk of the virus spreading. There will always be rule breakers but if the majority follow the rules it keeps things going in the right direction.

Shodan · 21/06/2020 22:50

@PinkFondantFancy I thought I might make an actual list- what places are open (e.g mini golf, gardens, castles, beaches etc etc) within, say, an hour of where we are. Add foodie places we like (Nandos, fish n chips, curry houses) near those places.

And loos, obviously Grin

Then I'll have a clear idea of where can go, rather than my usual half-baked 'plan' of "Oh let's go out for the day"..

Also maybe set up my projector thingy in the garden and have film nights with blankets and popcorn.

That kind of thing. It helps just to think about it tbh.

AnxiousElephant77 · 21/06/2020 22:51

Thanks @Shodan ♥️

Dowser · 21/06/2020 23:26

I know david Icke isn’t everyone’s cup of tea but had to laugh at his tale about wearing a mask
And his son given one at the dentists ffs 😂
First 15 minutes of the video if you want to watch

www.bitchute.com/embed/hN5mSGvRjQvh/

Dowser · 21/06/2020 23:29

Little bit mad

The loosening also had to be done by a certain point, by allowing people to meet outdoors it reduced the risk of them doing it on the sly indoors which holds a greater risk of the virus spreading. There will always be rule breakers but if the majority follow the rules it keeps things going in the right direction.

I think there’s been plenty of doing it on the sly....not even on the sly, quite openly, bbqs in gardens early one etc, etc.

Dowser · 21/06/2020 23:42

Pink fondant fancy

Hitting a wall with it all now, really really want my old life back, it was nice and full of lovely organised fun. Sick of my children seeing me crying every day. I don't even know what I'm crying about....

It’s grief. Pure and simple. You’re grieving for the life you loved and have lost..just like you would for a person you loved.

Imagine for a moment..the cruel hand of fate snatched away someone you loved with all your heart ( it doesn’t have to be a real person) and then a couple of weeks later an imposter was put in their place. They looked like the loved one but didn’t act or react like you expected your loved one too.

You’d be going round in a state of distress, wondering what was wrong. Your reality was all skewed.
You’d be looking at the imposter and trying to figure out what had changed. Everyday you’d be trying to grapple with it, try to make it fit..but it would be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Eventually, something would blow and you’d just end up angry, sad, tearful, lethargic,...you probably would end up blaming yourself for not being more..you can fit any word you chose into there.

We all feel this way, because it’s all out of our control. We feel powerless.
We are having things done to us that we don’t like.
That’s why we’ve had all the little acts of rebellion..because we are human and don’t like being treated as robots.

Icke is right..all the nice things in our life have been stripped away..all our contact with our fellow man, browsing the shops, going to the pub, meeting for sport, all the arts, singing, theatre, cinema
and at a time when respiratory illnesses are at their lowest..they are making masks mandatory..yet another way to dehumanise us.

We have to make sure they do not win.

BogRollBOGOF · 22/06/2020 00:28

It is like grief, especially now some parts of life carry on and some people are in a relatively normal position and its left others feeling more isolated.

I had about 10 days of Wall in weeks 11 & 12. Hormones were a factor as was the weather, just like that last semi-normal week in March, and it was the news that school places weren't going to be extended and the quashing of that hope that triggered several rounds of sobbing.

Today was a McLunch and Chinese this evening. I de-biohazarded the kitchen and downstairs toilet. We went back to yesterday's park and basically scooted a parkrun. I impressed DS2 with my ability to ride two scooters simultaneously Grin he later nicked mine and was stunned at how fast I went on it- being too small it pushed me into a deeper squat which gives a deeper lunge and push.
I love our scooters. DH is 6ft and very grey so is a complete sight on his. I'm built like a 12 year old so confuse people easily. And there we go, whizzing around with our kids having fun Grin

So this week I have two things to look forwards to... fitness class and DM & the cemetery. This is the face of progress Wink

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IAintentDead · 22/06/2020 00:39

Just following on from the recent posts and relating it to abusive relationships

Isolating from family - then isolating from friends - make you think that everyone out there is out to do you harm but only the government I have your wellbeing at heart. You know I am good for you and you need me. All your family and friends been frightened off deserted you.

It really is 1984/The Handmaiden's Tale/Any Dystopian Future if we let it take us over like some seem to welcome.