The ADs seek joy and aubergines

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We got a bit cut off there didn't we? Thread 15 now.

DH has a good friend at work who has Crohn's (I never spell it right, apols) and they are on some immunosuppressive medication. Well, they got it, and were sick for about 10 days, like bad flu, and then completely recovered

That is interesting because I think DH (same condition and meds) had it too and very similar - after half term skiing in France. A week later he was sick, he coughed up blood (sorry TMI) nasty chest infection thing and they wouldn't test us as not been to Italy. I too had something but not as bad. But anyway he was on those meds too and recovered after being pretty sick for a week (unable to get up at all and high temp which I got down with paracetamol and ibuprofen). I'm hoping it was it because I don't want him that sick again.

I have had a fairly sheltered life, no real serious illness or death other than grandparents and pets so fairly standard really. I am however very pro euthanasia for humans in certain cases. I personally wouldn't want to be kept alive at all costs, sometimes it really is kinder to let someone die.

If I were very elderly and had the option of living in misery for months on end or taking a risk of dying but being able to be surrounded by my friends and family I would definitely choose the latter. Now if I were the age I am now and shielding I would want to be given the chance to live and so would probably isolate myself for a while until life became unbearable.

As a reasonably healthy 30 something female I have been happy to take.my chances all along because I know that the risks are so low. I don't have an issue with vulnerable people keeping themselves tucked away but I do eyeroll at the people being so hysterical over something as mundane as having the car windows down. If the virus were that contagious almost everybody would have it.

Regarding BSE, my friend's mum refused to give her DOGS anything with beef in it. She was horrified that I was still eating beef. On the basis I'd been eating it for years it was too late to worry about it, and due to the increased care that would put in place in future I was planning on carrying on! And the kids ate it, they're all grown up and in professional jobs, so not done them any harm. She must have been an original dementor, bless her.
On other news, I've seen all my children today and grandchildren, no hugging but they used my toilet, not dead yet!

Im sure there is an expression or word for what I'm trying to say (I'm tired) but it almost feels insulting (I'm really wording this badly) that some people with much less risk are running round in circles screaming while the vast majority of extremely vulnerable people are just getting on with it.

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks that's exactly right - it's the classic but lets make it all about meeeee. It's infuriating - very very very low risk people (white, young, fit & healthy middle class, working from home) wittering on and on and on about their 'risk' and their 'fear' ... just stfu and stop trying to make it about you, grow a fucking backbone & be quiet so people can focus on the ones who are at greater risk & unsafe from this horrible thing.

@Drivingdownthe101 yes a risk tourist. It's horrible.

I feel the same way about the media - latching on to the 'sexy' deaths ignoring all the ones that don't matter so much - old/sick/fat etc. People are just such wankers.

Self indulgent perhaps

I need a mixture of some plans for a structure and space to be spontaneous. Too much of either extreme isn't good, but I handle too busy better than months of nothingness!

What I loved about teaching other than the social variety was that there is the structure of having to do things on tight timescales, but the creative freedom to plan the lesson for the class. It was great until the paperwork took over.

But the RC Church is really not very "life at all costs". If you're a Good Catholic, you should positively be looking forward to being dead!

Hmmmm, that is very much not my experience of Catholicism.

Anyone remember the pregnant woman in Ireland the pro-lifers wanted kept "alive" for months to gestate her foetus?

The poor woman's body was gradually failing and falling apart and still the mad Knights of Columbanus/Opus Dei nutters wanted her kept "alive" artificially.

There again, my own Granny was a much more moderate Catholic. And my other Granny just went along with it on the off chance there was something in it.

@nothingiswrong like many abusive men, he wears a suit of charm and affableness.

Well. Interesting stuff. I've ventured into two threads today with classic dementoring potential and the vast majority of posters are not being insane!

(Going for a walk and being horrified by the fact that other people have done the same thing in the same place, and being upset that her ds is upset with her for not letting him go back to school.)

I think the tide is turning!

@Nihiloxica nail on head!

My normally lovely H has been restored by a day playing with his wood. He was quite the arsehole, yesterday and still snippy, this morning, before he got stuck in. My own mood was actually restored by Ds2 industing on a walk, immediately after lunch. He won't usually countenance me taking him out on a weekend but saw that dad was busy and needed to check up on the minibus situation. The sunshine did me some good, even though I was wearing some pretty unflattering cropped joggers and feeling quite aware of it.

I found my 🍆 in markses, @Littlebelina

Probably quite fitting!

I started lockdown finishing off loads of knitting projects but when it's warmer, my attention wanders and I don't get the same calming sensation from handling wool. Positively hate it with hot hands.

No new cases in Northern Ireland today.

Must be because Arlene Foster and Michelle O'Neill are women 🤣

@OhFuckOffWithTheBubbleBollocks I know exactly where you're at. My mum is on the fringes of the shielding group, due to age and health. Like you, 8 can understand being cautious, with health worries, but it gets ridiculous if you are fine and your kids are fine but you're locking them indoors, regardless, or you expect the rest of the world to stay at home and stop functioning.

There is a giant bluebottle in the house. I feel properly murderous

I spoke to more shielding people yesterday, all older, all pretty much fed up, but all pragmatic and "what has to be, has to be" Quite a few giggles at the role reversal and it is them being grounded by their kids. No real sense of overwhelming fear though, even the ones that are really high risk. Maybe, as others have said, it is because they have lived through other stuff and don't see this as any more risk than other communicable disease, which the younger generations haven't really dealt with. (Measles, polio, even TB etc)

Is anyone else please the football has restarted? It's a big part of my life and watching and listening to it in the last few days has just felt so, well, normal.

Not a football fan.

We're not a football household, but the more normal that comes back, the better.

The park was busy with all kinds of stuff including cricket and football training and it was just good to see people living.

Expletivedelighted yes definitely. I can't watch my team (League Two) but sport in general is a big thing with us. I have loved the return of the PL and have found it quite soothing in a way (despite all the shouting at the tv - or maybe because of it )

@BogRollBOGOF

We're not a football household, but the more normal that comes back, the better.

The park was busy with all kinds of stuff including cricket and football training and it was just good to see people living.

I can't stand football and I'm delighted it's back.

The tiresome sound of them wanging on about matches on the radio is music to my ears.

Praying I don’t get hit with the whirligigs.

3 bottles down with my nice neighbour. I’m either going to spew or pass out.

Deid Dave. They’re all deid.

In my circle, the two people I know who are shielding are doing so with minimal fuss. They ask for help when they need it without making themselves into martyrs or expecting medals. Just amazing people.
On the other hand, the dementors are far from vulnerable. One of them has a parent who is at risk, but who lives apart....she has imprisoned her own children inside the house and I literally cannot understand the motivation.

3 bottles?

I'm puddled after 3 glasses and a caffeine free coke. Nighty nights.

We have three in the shielding group for various serious reasons (cancer, lung disease and immune meds) and all are making own risk assessments and managing OK (as they can) thankfully.

In extended family I mean