Anti-dementors are driving round the Arc de Triomphe

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new thread :-)

Reckon this could possibly be dementored?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53106673

@Dowser my problem with health food shops is that they always sell those chickpea flour noodle crisp things and I am powerless to resist.

arf at bobbing for pineapples, I may suggest that :D
Loving the Simon says suggestion

Sorry I see I am a bit late to that party...……
Though I wonder if BoJo will come out of his hidey hole again this evening.

He does like to give us good news.

One of my best holidays was the west coast of Scotland. It was a glorious 26c every day, apart from the one day we went over to Edinburgh, where it pissed it down so bad the drains couldn't keep up.

It hit 30c on the day we went to Applecross. Heaven.

Anyone else fascinated by the Italian research establishing that the virus was present in Milan & Turin by mid-December and Bologna by January? They tested sewage samples, which has emerged as a way of tracking the virus in communities. Fascinating that it was obviously circulating in Europe for several months before anyone really registered

Oh god. Chickpea flour noodle things. More addictive than crack.

Weird energy in Stirling? It does have a reputation for being “flighty” I suppose.

Ffs. Fighty, not flighty. Twatphone.

The one where the OP is being advised to demand a discount because she can't get into the cottage until 7pm and has to be out by 9am, because of Covid cleaning. Apparently this will disrupt bedtimes for a whole week with most people's children.

I saw that this morning and was a bit WTF . I’ll admit I’m a bit the other end of the spectrum with kids and travel, as in just go with the flow, you’re on holiday. I do get that some people’s children need more of a routine than my DD, who’s been dragged all over the world since she was tiny and seems completely unfazed by time changes and will sleep in any kind of makeshift bed, but cancelling your holiday because you can’t get into the accommodation until 7pm is bonkers.

@SomewhereEast

Anyone else fascinated by the Italian research establishing that the virus was present in Milan & Turin by mid-December and Bologna by January? They tested sewage samples, which has emerged as a way of tracking the virus in communities. Fascinating that it was obviously circulating in Europe for several months before anyone really registered

There does seem to be a lot of snippets hinting at this. (Earlier in the UK and Europe)

If you don't know that you're looking for an unusual respiritory illness, it's very easy to not see it amongst the usual array of colds/ flus in a European winter.
Plus in the UK it was a hard, long autumn winter with vitamin D getting depleted by a soggy summer/ autumn quite early on. We hit bugs unusually early in the autumn term after a few weeks of school (not attributing that to Covid 19)

Someone posted an interesting article umpteen threads ago about tracing the strains of the virus, and how Iceland's primarily orignates from the UK suggesting the UK had a distinct strain embedding in the population earlier than recognised, rather than coming in via Italy which was different. I do wonder if the UK had a milder mutation, Italy more severe and although we did see an effect from half term travel escalating the spread, whether that's partly why we didn't have significant overwhelm of the NHS beyond standard capacity (albeit at the cost of routine care) into the Nightingale provision that was anticipated.

Hester
In the absence of colloidal silver I’d gargle with pink Himalayan salt every hour, take some honey, lemon, garlic and onion..all swooshed in a food mixer..a couple of dessertspoon every hour
Get some zinc ascorbate drops from bio care into me
Increase my Vit c INtake
Increase my multi vit b ..bio care again do drops..vita absorb

Because I have my own arsenal of stuff, I’d also vapourise colloidal silver with a few drops of food grade h202
I take iodine and ionic selenium every day..so would take an extra cap of that
Nice hot bath..no pain killers

I don't think you can naturalise as Irish by living in NI, no matter for how long.

^ thought that would be a bit of a cheat! NI have done so much better though.

Have just got back from town - won’t go on a long depressing rant, it’s really bad out there. But I managed to get reduced Easter chocolate in Tiger (recommended if you need a pleasant more normal shopping experience) and a cushion from Homesense (dementor’s paradise except that the guy with the IR thermometer on the door seemed to have a streaming cold!). Paid by cash too.

Was amused that the timing on crossing lights has been changed so people don’t congregate but now there are groups hanging around waiting for someone brave enough (me!) to actually press the button!

A fair few wall pressers & road jumpers out still - bet they weren’t doing that in March when the was a considerably more virus around. Stupid fuckers.

Love the way the guardian reported the alert level being dropped - equal weight given to epidemiologists & virologists (yes it’s justified) as some fucking nutter on Twitter (noooooo people are Sadly Dying Daily still).

Got back to dd1 in floods of tears. Life sucks for her right now.

Rant over.

If that didn’t see it off at the pass
I’d bring out the big guns
Citricidal
Oil of oregano
Viragon
They usually do the trick

Blimey Dowser, no vampires in your house with that!

One of the benefits of my slap-dash parenting style and night owl children is that we are pretty adaptable around timings. Sometimes too adaptable to get anything done...

We often used to struggle with campsites closing too early for a Friday night pitch ip. By the time we were done with work then had to do battle with the M6 to get to North Wales or the Lake District, we wouldn't get in until at least 10pm. It wasn't worth trying to rush because then we got the worst of the M6, and it was least stressful to set off around 7pm and keep moving and made surprisingly little difference on time, especially as we'd eaten first and had shorter travel time, rather than a longer journey and needing a full services break.

@BogRollBOGOF on a similar subject I thought this was interesting

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-china-had-ten-times-more-flu-cases-than-usual-in-december-fm869vt70

“ Health authorities reported 1.2 million cases of influenza in December, compared with 130,442 recorded in the same month of 2018. The figure was also nearly twice that of the previous year’s peak month for flu”

Massive ‘flu’ spike over a month before they reported the existence of CV. Their numbers truly are fantasy.

cancelling your holiday because you can’t get into the accommodation until 7pm is bonkers.

See I don't know.

We travel by train so having to wait around is more of a pain . You can't go far with luggage and you're tied to train times - usually we'd have bought the train tickets buy now so would be stuck and you'd have less change of finding some where open at the minute.

When we went on holiday as children and parents drove - it could still be an arse waiting around though it's easier to leave the luggage still need loos open. They had odd consideration around traffic levels so obvious thing off setting off later or stopping on route for meal never seemed to happen.

I could see it being just one more thing if your already thinking maybe not.

We've just canceled our English holiday despite all the easing and the predications about might be possible in three weeks. We can't wait as deaddline for cancling is fast approaching. Just seem hugely stressful all round to try and still go.

On upside we will get more money back than first thought and we'll be keeping a look out to see if we can book something in wales - maybe just long weekend for later in the summer.

My children had a reasonable routine when tiny - bed at 7pm - but one night didn’t kill them and they would happily sleep in a car seat and be transferred across to a cot.

Now on the other hand, they are entirely feral and both night owls and I am often still chivvying them into bed at 9.30pm.

A 7pm check in would be fairly shit for us as unfortunately I have children who turn into werewolves at around that time. But we would try and work around it.

Maybe I was just lucky with flexible kids. When my DC were small we did a few camping holidays in the Vendee. We used to get an evening ferry to Caen, park up somewhere for a few hours kip then have breakfast en route. We had a thing about taking beef rolls for breakfast when France banned British beef due to BSE. They have skipped on ferries, in airports, even on a kiddy bike seat. I wouldn't be delighted at a 7pm check in but we'd have coped. The 9am check out would annoy me as we like to give dogs and kids a run out before a long journey.

The holiday park we use in Cornwall has always had a 9am checkout. Luckily a) I think they're pretty lax about it, b) we're early birds as a family anyway and c) I use it as an excuse to demand a final breakfast out at the beach cafe as a last treat before the drive home.

A 7pm check in would be fairly shit for us as unfortunately I have children who turn into werewolves at around that time. But we would try and work around it.

We'd work around in it normal times. We found places that would let us eat with our cases or hung around see front with cases and ice creams. That's why I'd wondered if it was final straw.

Though DH just found we're going to get all the money back - yea - even the deposit and the fees under their covid policy. So will definitely re-book with these people again.

@LadyOfTheImprovisedBath

A 7pm check in would be fairly shit for us as unfortunately I have children who turn into werewolves at around that time. But we would try and work around it.

We'd work around in it normal times. We found places that would let us eat with our cases or hung around see front with cases and ice creams. That's why I'd wondered if it was final straw.

Though DH just found we're going to get all the money back - yea - even the deposit and the fees under their covid policy. So will definitely re-book with these people again.

Yes I agree... it’s shit if there aren’t even any restaurants you can hang around in until check in time. All kids are different, we’re not highly ‘routine’ people at all, but for some reason our children are! I’d love for them to be able to cope with late nights and disruptions but they just don’t, and tired miserable kids on holiday equals a tired and miserable me, too!

Happy to admit I'm a cranky cow being unreasonable and that the train thing hadn't occurred to me

I'm just really scared of this summer. People demanding discounts because things are unusual and not what they expect. Maybe I'm doing visitors a disservice and they'll be more reasonable than that.

@torydeathdrug I believe there was an article fairly recently that said according to satellite data, there was more traffic coming in and out of Wuhan hospitals from around August last year. China said it was all nonsense, obviously 🤔