Anti-dementors riding the roller coasters

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

And going to pubs, restaurants and zoos!

BarkandCheese
I had the exact same thought about Rishi & that Star Wars scene 😂 I'll admit that he benefits from the fact that the ministerial competence bar is set pretty fucking low right now. I have literally no idea what Gavin Alan-Partridge Williamson has been up to over in Education these past four months.

I think we are definitely being softened up for a reduction to 1m. A week or two of a drip-drip of stories about the consequences of sticking at 2m... There was a story this morning about how school can only be PT in September... IF we stick with 2m.

Covid vulnerable = be kind, care, sacrifice gratefully
Anyfucking thing else = tough shit, build some resilience, well life’s unfair, selfish selfish murderer

This has made me a different person - probably better in the long term. I’m harder & I see more clearly. It really is each man for himself.

The damage that as been done to my son at a crucial point in his education/development/health has legal & financial implications & I will endeavour to make someone else pay.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

I'm very much of the opinion that we need to think about long term vulnerability. So, if you have a disabled child or a child who is immunocompromised, they are likely to be particularly vulnerable to COVID. But they are also definitely vulnerable to a society in a deep recession, in which social support services will be cut, health services will be cut. By asking everyone to stop society spinning and continue to stay home now, you are picking the long term vulnerability, which, unless you have mega money yourself, you won't be able to shield your child from. Whereas if you accept that most people can get back to work and school, you are only having to deal with vulnerable now, to Covid, which you can shield your child from.

Completely agree this is short term thinking.

It must be hideous to be vulnerable or have a vulnerable child but unless we restart the economy money will run out and it will be much much worse than before.

This has made me a different person

Me too.

But not sure for the better, though.

@Ibake I feel really bad now, I didn't want to remove the spring from anyone's step! I hope that there's some cheery or encouraging news today to put that spring back.

I agree with you all. We need an optimally functioning society to protect the vulnerable longer-term. Yes it must be shit to have to keep shielding a child when the rest of the world is starting to regain some normality but the other option - that everyone stay shut down because a few are vulnerable - is just not feasible long-term and will hurt everyone. Badly.

trapped are there giraffes. I love their eyes. DS1 bought me a giraffe feeding experience for my 60th and I loved it. Apparently their wee smell like pot.

@MaxNormal Well said.

Better for survival in a world full of shit heads not good for my blood pressure & I doubt I’ll be on many Christmas lists but at least I’m not dishonest.

Willow2017

Yep there are anteaters..DD has put it her list. She's going in this afternoon to get up to speed on procedures and guidelines before the re-opening on Monday. Her DP has been setting up facetime meetings between DD and the meerkats when he's been at work....those poor little buggers aren't going to know what's hit them this afternoon.

countrygirl99

You're on the creature cuddles list as it's now being called by DD.

@Willow2017 I've got a feeling anteaters are class A dangerous animals as they are so short sighted they get scared easily and swipe at people. They usually aim at gut level so need a real bond with their keepers, so gorgeous but not as cuddly as I thought!

Just reading the latest ons summary. 1 in 1700 of the population were found to have the virus ( outside of hospitals and care homes) in the two week period up to 7th June.

[quote Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]@Willow2017 I've got a feeling anteaters are class A dangerous animals as they are so short sighted they get scared easily and swipe at people. They usually aim at gut level so need a real bond with their keepers, so gorgeous but not as cuddly as I thought![/quote]
These ones are captive bred so are used to being talked to and are generally compliant. The keepers know when their in a grumpy mood though so leave them to it...a bit like teens really.

Chumrades...love it

Oh nihil, I love cats. My last five were all Persians. Arthur, ( red self) Mitzi ( pure white chinchilla) sophie( seal point Persian with the miaow of a Siamese) Harry pusser ( same) and Annabelle ( apricot point).

I can’t have any more , I get too upset when they die, and until these last three months, we travelled around a lot.
.persians are beautiful and quite docile but very hard work, my daughters had three but now has one semi fluffy one and the other has tabby stripes.
He was due his operation a few days into lockdown so you can imagine what he’s like.
His poor mum was due to have hers..and she’s now had another litter.

So unfair, yet they bang on about getting cats neutered.

This has made me a different person - probably better in the long term. I’m harder & I see more clearly. It really is each man for himself

I think I'm just more bitter and resentful. Probably more likely to stand up for what I believe in. Probably depressed if I really think about it.

If I didn't have Ds I don't think I'd get up in the morning in all honesty.

I am not sure of that article either and I understand the great pain that thread must have caused.

However we are now in a situation of covid vulnerable and non covid vulnerable being pitted against each other.

I can't keep my child 'safe and well' in the current circumstances and have no way of making that better as it stands. I don't have the answers, but my child matters as much as hers and my child's needs are as important. We need to find the balance.

they're not their..ffs.

Its not as if vulnerable children didn't exist before Covid (I was one -my childhood was insanely chaotic & dysfunctional). We're basically in a situation where there are literally no good choices, so we have to weigh up which pathway causes the least suffering over the longterm. At the moment we're prioritising the short term and the easily quantifiable (Covid stats) over everything else, with a Gov incapable of thinking past the next opinion poll & focus group & negative headline. Boris meanwhile just seems to follow whoever yells at him loudest.

Latest ONS figures show 0.06% infection prevalence, down from 0.1% last week and 0.24% the week before. And yet there will still be posters muttering about a spike from something...

We are locked down for 0.06?!

Kill me fucking now.

Country girl..my daughter often stays at flamingoland and you can have a behind the scenes tour of the animals.
She said. ..and I quote ..the rhino would lie down and allow you to stroke it.
I love animals. I took my grandson to Edinburgh zoo for his 12 th birthday to see the pandas ..and they were awake and moving around..fabulous

@trappedsincesundaymorn - that is interesting. I’m learning loads on these threads!

I think the attitude of fuck any group of people is wrong. I hope the question is first how we meet needs and then balance wants. In education, most children will have their education needs met in school and a host of other ones too, others need more specialist provision and at the moment school may be very unsafe for some families. My answer is to send children back to school and provide a much better online experience to the children who need it. Others may need a more tailored approach.

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito - your post on vulnerability absolutely chimed with me. It was like my thoughts but actually crystallised!

Does anyone know how young a child has to be not to wear a mask on public transport? DS has a hospital appointment in a few weeks to get his glasses sorted out, and I’m not sure if I have to try and get him into a mask on the fecking bus or not. I have some tractors fabric so could try making him one... but getting him to wear it may be another matter altogether 😬 That’s before we even factor in that it’s an eye drops appointment (nooooooooo) so the poor little bugger will be miserable before we’ve even started ☹️

Can’t fucking wait.

Wales and Trapped
Thanks for the info.

The keepers know when their in a grumpy mood though so leave them to it...a bit like teens really.😀😀 oh well blowing a kiss will do.😉