Anti dementors flock together

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Gather here anti dementors

Pickachew..closed this week?
Hamsterley?

I am delighted. Dave MacLeod, a well know Scottish climber that I follow, is an anti Dementor!
He's quite sciencey as well so he'll have based his views on some very solid reasons.

Just seen that a local theme park is getting ready to open.
Sooooo a theme park can open but a playpark or a zoo cannot?
And also just please for the love of god if you are looking at changing the 2m to 1m ffs just do it so our kids can go back to school??!!!!
At least the children's commissioner is speaking up about the effects of this bollocks.

Still nothing from our schools about the designated year groups going back at all

I've just seen this article an have a few questions:

www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

TL;DR it's saying that there is mounting evidence that it is "very rare" that an asymptomatic coronavirus carrier infects someone else.

So if this is true - was the lockdown totally pointless? Should we have just told symptomatic people to self-isolate for 2 weeks and let everyone else out?

@heroku it's looking like a possibility.

The problem is this is all new science so just in case let's assume it's wrong science.

Not my feelings btw, just what I think the govt thinks.

I was just coming on to post the same @heroku with the same questions....
....great minds...

Morning, well it makes perfect sense that asymptomatic carriers aren't going to spread it that much, because they're not coughing and sneezing everywhere.

[quote MrsArchchancellorRidcully]@heroku it's looking like a possibility.

The problem is this is all new science so just in case let's assume it's wrong science.

Not my feelings btw, just what I think the govt thinks. [/quote]
That's the thing isnt it.
They say we are learning all the time about covid and always getting new information, but only seem to be learning or sharing what fits their narrative.

They say we are learning all the time about covid and always getting new information, but only seem to be learning or sharing what fits their narrative

Yes exactly. I was pro-lockdown at the beginning because I thought the idea was to buy us some time while we figure out how serious the virus is and what the best mitigation strategy was. But it's 3 months later and we're still banging the same drum and ignoring all of the new evidence out there. I can't understand it.

They’re just saying but pre-symptomatic people can spread it. Arghhh.

I’m so cross if they’re backtracking on any contact time before sept. Dd came in crying last night. She dreamt the police had thrown us in jail. She said it was a nice cell where we could bring our own furniture and order food and it had a balcony but the walls were high and thick. I want to cry

Oh, goodness, @heroku, I don't know if he study makes me happy, or even more fed up that this still seems endless, and possibly for no reason.

So if this is true - was the lockdown totally pointless? Should we have just told symptomatic people to self-isolate for 2 weeks and let everyone else out?

Pretty much.

But no fucker who is responsible for this is going to willingly admit that.

That's why so much pressure was brought to bear on Sweden - they are the proof that the Imperial model was garbage.

I just don't get how people are so concerned with their own lives ending. I want to give a good time and go when my number is up. I want my kids to survive and do the same...

I mentioned a couple of threads ago that I know a MN dementor in real life. She pulled her children out of school 2 weeks early, and none of them have left the house/garden for 13 weeks now. Shopping quarantined and disinfected, no other deliveries, children won’t be back at school until it’s ‘safe’.
She’s absolutely petrified. A few weeks ago I realised why her fear was grating on me so much. It’s because she isn’t worried about her children, she says she knows it’s not serious for the vast majority of kids and she’s sure they’d be fine if they caught it. She’s worried that she is going to die. Now I know it’s obviously awful if a child has a parent die, but she’s entirely willing to keep her children away from school/their friends/from even leaving the house despite accepting the risk to them is minimal, because she doesn’t want to catch it herself. She’s not shielding or vulnerable, by the way.

But what will the Dementors doooooooo if all the people who feel completely fine are not spreading the virus at all instead of being RABID DEATH MONGERS?

So let me get this straight.
The govt have decided that children really should stay at home.
To protect the vulnerable. The vulnerable for the most part wont be teaching them.
But they've to stay at home to keep people who can go to garden centres and golf and soon pubs and shops safe?
How in any way is this actually acceptable?

@Drivingdownthe101 that's really sad... and pretty awful really.

Has anyone started a thread on the asymptomatic thing?

Livin I've no idea how it makes any sense. And the longer we keep kids off school and send people back to work, the more chance kids will end up being looked after by "vulnerable" grandparents anyway. So the whole exercise is pointless.

@Drivingdownthe101 I’d go as far as saying that’s abusive at this point. We go for long daily walks and I try to arrange children/family to come over/go there every time it’s dry. We stay outside but children just play normally. None of us has even had a hint of the bug (or any bug for that matter). My dd is dreaming of prison. I’m so fed up of this attitude that children should put up with isolation unless absolutely necessary

I read months ago that asymptomatic people= healthy people

This has been one big cockup from start to finish.
Time for the government to put their hands up and say we got it wrong.
We want everything up and running by Monday

I’m sicK of the mileage some people are getting out of this.
Wheeling in so called ‘experts’
You only have to go outside and see normal healthy people doing normal healthy things.
Hamsterley was an eye opener for me. It was the first time I’d seen normal since March 15 th, before tenerife went into lockdown.
So that was round about May 22 on our first visit.
They are t even depressing days at the moment. I’m just feeling numb around everything...and that’s not good either.

As someone said, staying alive is not enough

@LivinLaVidaLoki

It is absolutely shocking.

But what actually shocks me more is the number of parents who are not willing to advocate for their own children and just trill that they are perfectly happy playing alone in their house.

I lost it a bit on another thread where I was called ridiculous for saying that playgrounds should open before pubs (to be fair I think pubs should open too).

I really really can’t get my head around why a lot of parents are complicit in their own children getting chucked under a bus.

Interestingly no mention anywhere in the press this morning about that who guidance about asymptomatic spread.

Deffo up for an anti-dementor bike ride

I really really can’t get my head around why a lot of parents are complicit in their own children getting chucked under a bus.

Some parents don't want their children to grow up.

Forgot to add, if the govt think these people need to be protected, then these are the people who need to stay at home.
I am beyond livid right now.

@Nihiloxica

I really really can’t get my head around why a lot of parents are complicit in their own children getting chucked under a bus.

Some parents don't want their children to grow up.

^This. Absolutely.

I think it’s that they don’t want their children to have a separate identity from them/the family. I know someone who thinks that her children shouldn’t move away from them and that families should stay together. I was shocked you’d want to limit your adult children’s lives.