Anti dementors flock together

[Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy]

Gather here anti dementors

I've started to get hives when people say the word 'safe'

^ This

It is annoying to be patronised re covid.

Wales education - well school say they know nothing yet will hear on Wednesday DIL an anti dementor on a mums group is listening to the dementors saying not until September and saying whatever you think is best, secretly jumping up and down with joy because it means her two are more likely to have a place

Other than elderly people requiring care, particularly in care homes (but to some extent those needing carers) most people age 70+ are independent and autonomous. They can decide to shield or to shock horror go to the newsagent or even go to Gladys for a cuppa (Margaret is probably more generationally accurate I suppose ) It's their call to retreat and protect or go out and live. Incomes are unthreatened. There is the loss of organised leisure groups as there is for all, but they can pick up phones and chat. Some are tech savvy.

DM (82) and MiL (88) have undergone far less change and loss to their lifestyle over the last few months. They also have no responsibility to anyone else.

My 7&9 yos just don't have the social skill to deal with a phonecall or video calls. They're stuck around their friends' parents work patterns and philosophy on risk management. Everything is by proxy. They have energy that needs burning. Immature skills to develop.

Children who get fucked up by this will carry the scars for far more decades than the elderly.

It's not top trumps. Everyone's circumstances are personal. Some children are thriving, some elderly dying of lonliness, but as a demographic children do not have autonomy through this whereas most aged 70+ do, and a greater proportion of childrens' lives are experiencing more losses, yet children don't get the benefit of feeling protected from the low risk of catching an illness with statistically very low risk of serious har.m.

Nih you are awesome. Just that 💪💪

I’m still upset that my parents wouldn’t let me go down to see them for one night just in case the neighbours saw but had my sister to stay for a week. With her newborn. If they had said no to both of us - fine - but to allow one but not the other is pretty crap.

@TheGreatWave

I work with elderly people, one more than one occasion I have had people tell me that they are basically done with living.

Death is sad only for the living - most people have one of two beliefs - when you're dead, you're dead so to you it doesn't matter, or death means going to a better place - heaven or whatever so better.

Indeed. I like the idea of an afterlife, but either way I don't fear being dead. Dying, obviously not something to look forwards to. Of course I hope for a long, healthy, happy life. But it ain't infinite.

My funeral had better be a bloody good knees up with lots of laughter and some tears. The best funerals have weapy laughter, because it's a good sign of a life well lived and that the deceased made their mark on people. I hope there is an afterlife that means I can enjoy it too and see my loved ones (that survived the great Dementor cull of 2020 )

It’s wearing my kids down. It’s wearing me down.

Sometimes it’s better not to think as it leads to despair 😩

@BogRollBOGOF - i completely agree. My parents have had far less change than dd. They walk for hours each day, see neighbours, have drinks etc in the garden with family and friends. DD’s life has been shrunk to me and the friends I can find who’ll meet up. She has less of a life than my parents and no voice to change it. I’m trying to raise mine on her behalf

@MagdaS I’d be upset too. If they’re usually great maybe all this has messed with their logic?

But I am trying to figure out why so many are so excited about performing help for "the vulnerable" whilst refusing to acknowledge the needs of one of the most vulnerable groups in any society

AMEN. It baffles me why there appears to be so much empathy for the “vulnerable”- by that they mean the elderly/frail and those with severe health issues yet apparently none for children. Last time I checked, children WERE vulnerable! They cannot advocate for themselves. I am utterly disgusted by the way they are being thrown under the bus for others. It’s vile.

@littlbrowndog

It’s wearing my kids down. It’s wearing me down.

Sometimes it’s better not to think as it leads to despair 😩

It will pass. This will all pass.

That's why I had to get well away from home today. Somewhere totally different. Driving was a good focus on something that is not my phone. It took about an hour of driving on twisty rural roads to really shift my mood (not helped by PMT)

Early on I took it a day at a time and tried not to think about time, but that's caught up with me now. I was hoping that it would be good completing May and moving on, but so far June is a bit of a wall and just a constant reminder at how long it's been and how there is still no sight of any material change to my lockdown lifestyle.

In good news this unease is denting my appetite as I'm at my heaviest non-baby related weight. Not overweight yet, but inching close and I just feel squidgy.

@BogRollBOGOF

Other than elderly people requiring care, particularly in care homes (but to some extent those needing carers) most people age 70+ are independent and autonomous. They can decide to shield or to shock horror go to the newsagent or even go to Gladys for a cuppa (Margaret is probably more generationally accurate I suppose ) It's their call to retreat and protect or go out and live. Incomes are unthreatened. There is the loss of organised leisure groups as there is for all, but they can pick up phones and chat. Some are tech savvy.

DM (82) and MiL (88) have undergone far less change and loss to their lifestyle over the last few months. They also have no responsibility to anyone else.

My 7&9 yos just don't have the social skill to deal with a phonecall or video calls. They're stuck around their friends' parents work patterns and philosophy on risk management. Everything is by proxy. They have energy that needs burning. Immature skills to develop.

Children who get fucked up by this will carry the scars for far more decades than the elderly.

It's not top trumps. Everyone's circumstances are personal. Some children are thriving, some elderly dying of lonliness, but as a demographic children do not have autonomy through this whereas most aged 70+ do, and a greater proportion of childrens' lives are experiencing more losses, yet children don't get the benefit of feeling protected from the low risk of catching an illness with statistically very low risk of serious har.m.

Agree 100%

3 months is 1/260 of my life (65). 1/24 of a 6 year old and 1/72 of an 18 year old. I would need to be locked down for nearly 3 years to make the equivalent of 3 months of a 6 year old.

And even with lockdown I have autonomy of a sort. I choose if and when to walk or shop and even if I stick to the rules.

You are also right in that 'Gladys' was my mum's friend and 'Margaret' more mine 🤣🤣

3 months is 1/260 of my life (65). 1/24 of a 6 year old and 1/72 of an 18 year old. I would need to be locked down for nearly 3 years to make the equivalent of 3 months of a 6 year old

Exactly. This really puts it into perspective

Yes bog. It will pass. I know. But sometimes it’s just that. Thank you bog for kind words

I have heard that a week on Thursday Scotland will move to phase 2.

Thatbwe will be able to go in other peoples houses. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

I never killed anyone today as everyone in my local,co-op don’t give no fucks especially the older customers. 😂😂😂

It really does.

Ds (4) when I told him he could go back to nursery asked me if there would be lots of friends there and I said yeah XXX will be there (his best friend) and other nursery friends. He said but there can't be too many children because of the germs

I've not even barely spoken to him about it and I feel like I've traumatized the poor child. I explained that there weren't that many germs any more and that playing with nursery friends is fine but.

I dunno I feel horrific about it.

How is everyones driving doing? I went onto our dual carriageway the other day for the first time in ages at this particular roundabout. My mind went completely blank I did not know where to go. Weirdest feeling as if I was in a strange place not my home ground. I think I need to get some more driving in I have only used half a tank in 12 weeks.

@Waleshasgonecompletelycrazy it’s a bit of a pattern of behaviour from my parents to be honest. She has them visiting her to babysit all the time usually - but she has the space to accommodate them and I don’t.

@Cattermole: it's like Schrodinger's bloody virus isn't it?

That's brilliant. That's my new nickname for it!

@magdas that sounds painful. It’s so easy to fall into certain roles and patterns with families. A couple of glasses of wine and my dsis and I revert to stroppy teens!

@Nihiloxica No problem, I didn't read it like that And I echo that you are being pretty amazing in tackling a lot of the bullshit that's being peddled on MN at the moment.

The good thing about this thread is that we are coming at things from so many angles, yet all drawing reasonably similar conclusions.

I bloody love cycling. Maybe we can have an anti Dementor flocking flouting cycle ride when we're allowed to. Or even before we're allowed to.

@MagdaS

WTH? Because they were worried about what the neighbors would say? I'm so sorry and angry for you.
Did they sneak your sister and child in (and out) under cover of night? And keep the windows closed to prevent them from hearing any wailing at 2 AM?
"Baby, what baby?"

@DamnYankee that’s exactly what they did - she arrived at midnight, not just her and the baby, her husband and their older child too.

I’m not in the slightest bit bothered about them breaking lockdown as it was extremely unlikely any of them had the virus.

But it does sting.

I think I need to get some more driving in I have only used half a tank in 12 weeks.

I usually fill up every 5/6 days, I am still on the same tank from just before lockdown. I did less than 50 miles in April, and if you take out my 50mile trip to get my covid-19 test, not much more last month. Got £25 back from the insurers though as I am in the admiral group (but my insurance is on the other car - I drive dh's as the main driver on his insurance)

I am considering researching the effect of disease on population levels, and also natural events. It seems very morbid, but as a population thing it could be interesting.

@Magda that's shit. My paternal grandparents were like that. Their youngest was the golden child (not my dad) and then their dcs. It's a really horrible attitude. I could never make fish if one and flesh of the other.

@Nih you are a bloody star!

@justasking I made a point of going for the 'scenic route' back from the supermarket from the beginning as I was worried about forgetting how to do it

I bloody love cycling. Maybe we can have an anti Dementor flocking flouting cycle ride when we're allowed to. Or even before we're allowed to.

Before we're allowed to! It's the anti-dementor way ✊🏻😁

Magda - ouch