Anti dementors flock together

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Gather here anti dementors

@BogRollBOGOF I agree with that totally.

[quote Spudlet]**@SpnBaby1967 [hugs]

I think the costs of lockdown and the complete refusal of some people to acknowledge that they exist are two of the hardest things about this whole situation. I feel like I don’t even need everyone to agree on what should be done to mitigate the costs, but at least don’t dismiss them or jeer at them, you know? Have a bit of empathy!

It’s best to distance yourself (socially or otherwise!) from people who are making you feel so unhappy, if you ask me.[/quote]
@SpnBaby1967

I feel very much the same today.

So many people that were important to me have revealed themselves as cruel hypocrites.

I feel like it doesn't even matter if lockdown ever ends because now I know I live in a society that wants to lock up my disgusting children forever and will use whatever pretext it can to achieve that.

I feared lockdown because I thought a government would be reluctant to give up that level of control.

I had no idea I had more to fear from my so-called friends than the bastard Tories I have opposed all my life.

(Not that I ever thought Tory voters were bastards.)

Maybe.

Whatever it is, it would help if everyone was a bit more kind and honest. And I certainly don't mean in a hashtag #bekind sort of way. That can fuck off.

@BogRollBOGOF yeah, that makes sense.

All the #AloneTogether felt okay at the beginning when we all had the goal to save the nhs, but we did that. Now they keep moving the goal posts and it's like you cant ever be happy that we seem to be making progress because then you get SECOND WAVE or PEOPLE ARE DYING thrown at your face. No one is on the same page anymore, fuck even the damned scientists arent all on the same page!!

I've left a group I've been part of for years too.

I'm trying to get a booking for dinner in a beer garden as soon as they open!

On a much more sombre note, there was a 16 year old boy who died yesterday in Glasgow after falling onto the M77, and a 39 year old man who also died after falling onto the road further south at Kilmarnock. No other details have been announced, but it's so very sad.

No covid deaths in my county for 9 days now. I'm avoiding FB because I just know some won't be happy about that good news.

I just don't understand the "I'm alright jack" "you're not trying hard enough" attitude when people are pointing out the challenges and risks of continued social isolation, educational neglect and access to employment being stalled.

I know my own children have their idiosyncracies, but quite honestly compared to many children NT or ND they're a good pair and we're treading water. I'm just not too proud as a mother to confess that as brilliant as I am ( ) they need more than me. I'm not arrogant enough to think that DH and I meet all their needs.

It's a very odd thing that it seems so many women without children "get it" and those with children who are doing ok themselves simply can't understand why anyone else would be struggling.

That is the exact opposite of my experience, although it is child free (by choice in all cases I'm talking about) people of both sexes who are Dementoring loudest and not even thinking about how this might affect a vulnerable group that isn't the one it's popular to support at the moment.

Maybe I should take up cycling if that's where the cool women hang out. I'm definitely going to need new friends if this ever ends.

Willitneverend DH just said he’s going to book the day off work when the pubs reopen, so we can just go and sit and have a few drinks in the beer garden!

To be fair I think there was a lot of disent among the scientists even at the start it was just better hidden...

And a lot of us went along with it on the basis of a short term measure. I certainly wasn't expecting to be locked in for 12 weeks! We have been sold a pup and I think / hope more people are realising this.

To the fellow Jonathan Sumption fans Nick Robinsons political thinking podcast with him was rather good.

I'm just not too proud as a mother to confess that as brilliant as I am ( wink ) they need more than me.

I used to be proud to be the kind of mother that wanted my children to have more than me.

I never wept at their growing independence, I was proud and excited for them.

Now they are basically under house arrest and I'm supposed to be delighted that they have no choice but to spend all their time with me?

That's not the kind of mother I wanted to be.

(Sorry. Having a Very Bad Day.)

I remember my employer saying we'll be working from home for 2 weeks, but open for review.

I was speaking to a colleague and he agrees that we are starting to get lockdown/working from home fatigue big time now.

If you do your job right as a parent your children grow up well rounded and have the skills to make their own lives. Hopefully they want you in them. My kids love me (mostly) but certainly need much more than me.

Maybe I should take up cycling if that's where the cool women hang out. I'm definitely going to need new friends if this ever ends.

Yes you should, definitely

And I agree 100% with your post about independence.

Sorry. Having a Very Bad Day

Nihiloxica, you have been wonderful on these threads. You're such a voice of reason. I'm sorry you're struggling. You are quite entitled to have a bad day. This is horrendous and mind-numbing and we have no idea when it's going to ease. I do know it's going to end and life will move on and we will look back at this and shudder, but it will be behind us. We just have to hang on in there until then and stick together. We will so appreciate our freedom when we get it back won't we?

Speaking as a child free (not by choice, though I'm ok with that now) woman, I would really hate for this to become a parents vs non parents thing.

Not that it is.

I know I said I was so OVER the Guardian, but this is another thing that really really worries me. The anti single use plastic movement was just starting to gain traction amongst the general public and it was been knocked back to square one. People seem to think that reusing stuff = virus germs = certain death.

SpnBaby I'm sorry, that's so gutting. I've had a similar situation although it has calmed down a bit now and it felt so lonely. People have lost their minds. I can only say they are looking increasingly silly as times go on and deaths fall. Anyway, we understand. Take good care of yourself

The dementors in my life are split equally between parents and non parents. And of the parents they have children of all ages. They are also Bexiteers and Remainers. I can't see any pattern really other than they have revealed themseleves to be miserable control freaks with a poor understanding of risk.

@HesterShaw1 it isn’t parents v non parents. I just generally find it hard to get on with women when the only thing we have in common is being mums. In some ways I’m a bit of a misfit, I’ve never had my nails done, my fairy cakes have nipples, I hate shopping and I work full time. Some people are twats some are normal whether or not you have children.

No one I work with seems to recognise that we do a fucking good job because as a team we have been together for a long time, like a decade or more. 10 years of taking the piss out of each other, drunken nights out and working fucking hard to support each other. We are drawing down on all that social capital at the moment. But how do we replenish it? Once it's gone, it's gone. And integrating new team members will be hard. I am pushing hard for at least one day a week back in the office but so many are reluctant to even consider that it might be necessary.

I'd love DH to get back out to the office. As much as I love him, we are now pretty much at of 3 months of him working from home (started about 10 days early) and he's either working in the spare room now office, watching TV in bed or coming down to eat. He was walking until his fucking hayfever started (I hate his hayfever and there's a long history) and getting him out is like chivvying a third bloody child. It's draining. When we have the summer holidays, I still have a structure when he goes out to work, and his presence defocuses me. It makes me sound unloving, and I'm not, I do love him, we just need some routine and space (and I don't mean different rooms of a decent sized house!)

I’m having a bad day too.

I am seriously sick of WFH. It sucks. My boss is shit at people stuff and treats me like a teenage girl.

I marched out of the house after tea for a walk break and ended up not only doing 3.5 miles but bumping into someone (not literally...) I vaguely know through work. We had quite a long chat about how shit and what a grind this all is - he was obviously as pissed off and desperate for some human interaction as I am!

But I’ve got a deadline tomorrow and logging back on if 8am - 6pm staring at a small laptop screen wasn’t enough already.

what if this was exactly the year we were supposed to have?

If I could say what I think of that without blowing my top, I would. I have a loved one who is in an extremely tragic situation because of lockdown. He is suffering to an inhumane degree and he is going to die because of a lack of treatment (not for the virus). Some of my friends posted that poem and I am baffled. I also have a friend who's husband has cancer and a few weeks ago there were discussions about him not being able to receive hospice care if things got really bad because they needed people to stay at home. He hasn't ended up deteriorating that much and I'm not sure if they followed through and didn't help people dying as they usually would but people must have heard about that kind of stuff in the news.

Anyhow. In cheerier news, I saw this on my friend's FB today. It made my heart sing

www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=stargazy%20inn&epa=SEARCH_BOX

A Cornish hotel have a competition for people to win 2 nights with them NEXT MONTH when they reopen. And it's full of entries from people and scanning the comments I can't see anyone criticising them or telling them they're killing them or posting emotionally manipulative bullshit about 'this isn't essential'. It's the first thing like it that I've seen and it's joyous. I didn't dare share it in case my dementor friends pounced on me but Go enter if that floats your boat!

I must admit I’m not desperate to get back to the office. But I have a ridiculous commute so the luxury of being able to sleep till 7 every day is just lush.