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Madeleine McCann - new suspect

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KatherineJaneway · 03/06/2020 19:24

A 43-year-old German prisoner who travelled around Portugal in a camper van is now the focus of Scotland Yard's investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52914016]

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Chillipeanuts · 04/06/2020 23:56

Today 23:42 Noeuf

Did you have anything to add on the possible developments chilli or are you just parroting your amazing parenting skills for us?”

??
If you believe that not leaving your very young children unattended in an unlocked apartment where you cannot see them is an amazing parenting skill then no, I have nothing to add.

Do you think that’s an ok thing to do?

It wasn’t then, it isn’t now. Doesn’t stop me feeling heartfelt sympathy for Madeleine’s family.

Destroyedpeople · 04/06/2020 23:57

God chilli peanuts give it a rest. You are just parroting what has been said a million times. Yes you are a fab parent. Well done.

DigOutThoseLemonHandWipes · 04/06/2020 23:58

@Caelano I assume (it and is only an assumption) that they have some good but not useable evidence such as a recording of him talking to a cell mate in which he reveals something that makes it a credible confession and not just cellroom bragging. What ever they have to on obviously isn't good enough to convict on but is reason to believe he did it and that someone else may have key information. The wording really seem to imply that someone knows something and has held back out of fear or loyalty. It may not that they know he done it and where the body is but they might know where X place is that he has mentioned so "where Bob and I used to hangout" Bob could tell them where that was. Or even just that his ex partner or a former friend could have ideas and suggestions of where he used to go and what he had access to.

Zug2 · 05/06/2020 00:01

Unless the person who gave the tip off , had that information from the accused after the drunken conversation.

Aclh13 · 05/06/2020 00:02

My family in Leicestershire know the family fairly well and some of the comments on here are disgusting leave them alone. Up until that point it was pretty normal parenting practice to have more trust for the outside world, do you not see that that event was the pivoting point for stricter parenting? @Chillipeanuts your comments are awful calm down you troll.

Chillipeanuts · 05/06/2020 00:12

I’m a troll because I don’t think leaving under 5s alone in an holiday apartment is responsible?

Alright.

Destroyedpeople · 05/06/2020 00:18

Chilli peanuts how does it feel to be parroting a comment for the millionth time about a sad incident that happened fourteen years ago? Did you think you were making a relevant comment?

Destroyedpeople · 05/06/2020 00:20

Something incisive or insightful perhaps? No you just want to tell people what a great parent you are.

Chillipeanuts · 05/06/2020 00:21

I’m clearly terribly out of touch.

Destroyedpeople · 05/06/2020 00:23

Yes clearly you are and irritatingly smug with it

Chillipeanuts · 05/06/2020 00:25

Seriously baffled by this vitriol though. Is it not a parent’s job to look out for their children?
No. I wouldn’t knowingly expose them to harm if I could help it. Sorry if that offends you.

MiniMum97 · 05/06/2020 00:28

Can we please just ignore the people bleating on the same old same old about what they should have done or not done. They are derailing the thread. We've heard it all before and it's really not relevant to the current potential breakthrough.

Interesting I think that the Guardian reported:
"A witness who gave evidence at the rape trial [Bruckners] said he had seen him “climb through open windows in one or another holiday flat”. The witness said Brückner told close friends how he went after “tourist shit” like cameras, video cameras, passports, wallets or loose change, sometimes entering apartments while the occupants were taking a siesta or during the night."

Strange that the German police say that they know how she died? Hopefully more will come out in the next few weeks.

I really hope that this provides the McCanns with the closure the family must so desperately need.

Chillipeanuts · 05/06/2020 00:33

This is pretty unbelievable, actually. That I feel I have to defend myself for saying I wouldn’t leave my 3 year old and under children unattended in an apartment . When did that become a perfectly acceptable thing to do?

amateursleuth · 05/06/2020 00:34

If he's told a cell mate something that constitutes some evidence he did it, he'll have told others before now. And if he's a known sexual abuser he'll have shared evidence of that with other abusers before as well as perhaps other people in his life. I would assume some part of the story German police have includes the means of her death, and they are looking for other people who can corroborate that, and therefore his guilt.

Destroyedpeople · 05/06/2020 00:36

Chilli peanuts. . Sue me then.

ZoeCM · 05/06/2020 00:46

@Casino218

I can't believe that some people think it's the parents. They must not have children or have some sort of personality disorder!
Confused I don't believe Madeleine's parents killed her, but I don't think you'd need to have a personality disorder or have no children in order to consider it a possibility. Statistically, it's actually the likeliest scenario. When children are murdered, it's usually by someone who lives with them. The most common culprit is their stepfather or their mother's boyfriend. After that, it's the parents. It's rare for children to be abducted by strangers. The McCanns put their children in danger by leaving them alone, no question, but the main risks were fire, wandering outside and falling in the pool, being hit by a car, etc. Abduction was low on the list.

As I say, I don't believe Madeleine was killed by her parents. But I think the general public greatly overestimate the number of children who are murdered by strangers and underestimate the number murdered by family members. I think this is because the media generally gives more attention to the former (James Bulger, Sarah Payne, Holly Welles and Jessica Chapman, April Jones) than the latter.

Chillipeanuts · 05/06/2020 00:46

Destroyedpeople

Why? We each have an opinion, both are equally valid. If you’re happy leaving your 3 year old unattended it’s none of my business.

7Days · 05/06/2020 00:47

This is not about you, chillipeanuts you can pipe down about it now.

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 05/06/2020 00:55

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Destroyedpeople · 05/06/2020 00:56

@Chillipeanuts....what I or you would or wouldn't do with our three year old isn't the thread topic. Don't insult me.

Tia48 · 05/06/2020 00:58

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking I agree with you. Imagine having your worst regret rubbed in your face for 13 years. It’s painful what they’re going through and on top they have to listen to comments like this.

ThousandsAreSailing · 05/06/2020 01:04

It was reported tonight that he was questioned at the time but the Portuguese police had already decided it was the parents and didn't consider him
He is supposed to have talked about it in chat rooms
The poor girl and her family. I hope this brings closure for them

GrimDamnFanjo · 05/06/2020 01:06

I just want the Mcanns to have some closure. I can't imagine what their lives have been like.

Bouledeneige · 05/06/2020 01:07

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that German police have asserted that she is dead. It has seemed the most likely conclusion since 48 hours after her abduction. The poor, poor child. I hope she didn't suffer too much. For the parents it will be forever a living hell. No one deserved that. The only person to blame is the perpetrator.

There are many other children who have gone missing to a similar likely fate. And we should spare a thought for them and their families. This case has commanded disproportionate publicity.

Tia48 · 05/06/2020 01:09

I remember reading a story about a little 2 year old girl called Katrice Lee who got abducted in a supermarket in 1981. Her mum forgot to pick up something so left her at till with her Aunty. Katrice ran after her mum, like all little toddlers do, and her Aunty just let her go thinking she’s with her mum. She got abducted and has never been found.

It has haunted me for years reading how her mother blames herself for leaving her at till and how Aunty blames herself for letting her run off. Blame the evil person who took the poor child.