Anti dementors visit the zombie beach

[BarkandCheese]

New thread! Hope the title is acceptable.

Oooh one day
Sounds fab
Where about so are you?
Love barges

I have known some lovely teachers over the years but also some bloody awful ones and ones who have seriously let my kids down. But on here all teachers are Gods who never put a finger wrong.

Well that’s it, teachers are like anyone else. Some are amazing, some are good, some are competent and some are utter twats. If I was a teacher I’d be really angry with some of the crap being spouted in my name. I suspect many are but are too scared to come out and actually say it

It just really pisses me off
Dementors "you're under reporting, why don't you count x y and z deaths!!"
Government "OK we'll add them"
Dementors "Oh my God!!! The deaths are rising! We need to stay locked down!!!!!!!"
Government "oh shit you're right! Lock everyone up!!!"

Dowser I have a family member with a barge business. They are allowed to open now as day boats, but not for overnights.
Although what difference that makes, I'm not sure.
You book a barge for your familyand stay on it, you aren't taking on passengers en route!

Can someone tell me what pillar 2 deaths mean please? I feel like I can't keep up!

I genuinely don’t get why so many teachers on here have multiple colleagues shielding. Given 3% of the population are shielding it seems an awful lot.

I used to teach and left partly due to the politics, and nastiness and bullying.

Thats true Teatea. They wont want the vitriol being directed at them too by thier fellow teachers.

@sudokubook indeed. Apparently lots of schools have 30% of staff shielding. Even if you take into account pregnancies it can’t be that high

I know SudokuBook. At our fairly large (2 form entry) primary school we have no shielding teachers. One ‘vulnerable’ who was retiring this summer so won’t be returning, and one TA who lives with a vulnerable grandchild so isn’t coming back yet.

We’d have 1 at our smaller school but she was off sick anyway

Re: the shielding I saw somewhere that the teacher was not going back to work because someone in the family was shielding so they were not able to mix with the children. That would push the numbers up perhaps.

Re teachers never being wrong one of our heads of year got arrested and charged for having child porn on his laptop.

That has somewhat clouded my view of always trusting teachers. I would always trust them in the first instance but I'd always look into it further if my child was genuinely upset or worried.

This guy had been teaching 30 years and he was very well respected. We as students were really shocked.

Plus another teacher the literal week I left school found me on Facebook and asked me out. That also clouds my view somewhat!!

Complete dementoring madness over on the mothers sue thread.. missing school/everything is better than children suffering when everyone DIES

Woman on FB today her granny 94 fell and broke her femur. welsh hospital operated she seemed fine was being transported to a community hospital. Got pneumonia and died a few days later. The hospital said this was common if sad.

The death certificate said covid!!!

Can someone tell me what pillar 2 deaths mean please? I feel like I can't keep up!

Ditto please! I tried Googling but it didn't seem to be the same thing

@justasking111

Woman on FB today her granny 94 fell and broke her femur. welsh hospital operated she seemed fine was being transported to a community hospital. Got pneumonia and died a few days later. The hospital said this was common if sad.

The death certificate said covid!!!

Very common unfortunately. Dps grandma did exactly the same thing. Broke her ankle, ended up in hospital caught something (mrsa possibly?) And then pneumonia and died. If she'd not broke that ankle she wouldn't have died when she did. I remember one of the nurses told us it happens a lot. One Injury and people don't come out of hospital. Very sad.

I'd be upset if it was my relative and it had been signed off as something it was not

This happened to an elderly relative of someone I know, they massively kicked off and it was removed. It’s a bizarre situation right now for sure.

Someone on the post said something about the hospital getting more money if they put covid down. Cannot fathom how this works.

Ooh they are not happy about schools going back in my neck of the woods. This post is a peach.

"Once they open all the restaurants, cafes and pubs, let you go to your doctors/dentist surgery for non urgent symptoms, lift all social distancing and restrictions in shops, let us travel where we want when we want, then we know it’s safe to send our kids back to school."

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Am I misunderstanding something? Are the deaths now "higher" because they are now counting pillar 2 deaths too? Every day, not just this back filled amount from the other day? This is what does my head in.

Every day, Loki. – Which deaths are included in the new reporting process?

The additional deaths are linked to cases identified through testing carried out by commercial partners, rather than testing that has been done in NHS and Public Health England (PHE) laboratories.

These tests would have been undertaken in care homes or in the community, rather than in a hospital setting, and are available for the wider population, as opposed to just key workers.

– Who were the additional 445 deaths?

Public Health England (PHE) said “nearly all” of the 445 deaths, which date back to April 26, were care home residents.

The deaths were previously categorised as “probable” coronavirus cases, but have now been redefined as “confirmed” cases, PHE said.

They occurred over a month-long period and do not represent a new “surge” in the number of deaths, PHE added.

Instead, the 445 deaths were added to the historic data retrospectively.

I mean, anyone would think they were trying to manipulate data for a desired outcome, wouldn't they? Instead of measuring apples with oranges...couple of pineapples... the occasional mango and a coconut or two.

@shodan I think the Pillars refer to different groups of people being tested, not deaths. The deaths we see in the chart each day are people who have died with a positive test result - so they're broadly comparable assuming everyone gets tested - there was almost certainly some under- reporting at the peak. They are also giving us the estimated numbers from death certificates, though that includes people who died with "suspected" Covid, which is pretty hard to distinguish from pneumonia. But those are not the figures you see in the daily briefings.

The problem with the pillars is in the chart of daily diagnosises. That uses to distinguish the numbers diagnosed in hospitals (which was the only group being tested at first) but now just includes all positive tests. So it looks like it's fallen much more slowly than it in fact as, because many more people are now being tested.

@justasking111 it just shows a total lack of understanding of the concept of social distancing doesn’t it?

But like the idiots parroting that the MPs should return. Well they did, from all corners of the country and one had symptoms. Brilliant, travel it back across the UK when it could all have been done online.

@Firefliess good explanation but just because someone tests positive for covid doesn’t mean it caused their death.

Thanks for the link.

COVID-19 cases in the last week: 1 which is 0.7 cases per 100,000 in the last week. You wouldn't have guessed based on the concerns raised in local FB groups .

Very sad about zoos. We are members of a big local one. Were asked if we wanted to defer our membership renewal. Told them no just renew as we'd like to support you. I really don't understand why they can't reopen.