We're all going on a summer holiday

[MinnieMountain]

Even if it means 2 weeks of quarantine
The anti -dementors are here to be reasonable and sensible about everything.

I'm pissing myself laughing here. I'm so bored I'm reorganising all my uni notes for the year into another app. There's a slide that's dated incredibly badly on social use of language and personal space.

"How close is too close? (Proxemics)" with all the different concepts of personal space. Diligent me has written underneath this slide "may be changing with society but hasn't changed too much since the 1960s"

And then fucking Corona happened.

One of DD1 friends gave up walking the family dog - which she normally did as they got so much abuse shouted at them. I assumed it was because it was a teenage girl.

I’m at work and trying to do too many things at once

It just popped into my head that we hadn’t heard back from the groomers and typed without really paying attention 🤦‍♀️

Poor dog looks a right state, I’ve been hacking lumps off her, but there are a few matts forming under her ears and I’m terrified of cutting her skin.

We have a mobile groomer who has been working since the end of April, she comes and picks the dog up from the front door, does her thing while parked on the drive, then delivers her back to the front door.

Can you chase up the dog groomer today please?

DANGEROUS BUFFOON

Does anyone know what the law is regarding hugging your family? I'm about to trawl through the Welsh guidelines but I'd be interested if anyone knows this.

I know that in all nations it's against guidelines. But I can't see how they could possibly enforce that.

I don't see it as selfish either, it's frankly ridiculous to suggest people can meet their parents / kids / relatives / friends / partner in a garden but stay 2m apart. It feels as though they know that's what will happen but won't officially say it.

Poor dog, Springersrock, it sounds like getting her to a groomer would be a welfare issue.

If Small Dog gets mats I use small blunt-nosed scissors and get them between the mat and his skin then close the blades very slowly in tiny movements. It's done by feel as the knots are mostly in his armpits and he won't let me turn him upside down. He'd let me know if I got anywhere close to pinching him.

Something like Cowboy Magic might help your girl. It's not cheap but it does help to prevent knots and even helps with untangling them once they form.

There was something about getting to level Green in welsh guidance I saw and maintaing the 2m distance when meeting family.

It stuck in my head as it sounded barmy.

Our family is in England - so it's overnight stops so I've no idea when we'll get to see them again.

I can't believe we are actually having a conversation about the legality of hugging your own family.

How the fuck did we get here?

gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2020-05/unlocking-our-society-and-economy-continuing-the-conversation.pdf

Seeing family and friends
Lockdown: Stay at home and contact only within households
(limited exceptions).

RED: Seeing one person from outside your household to provide or receive care or support whilst maintaining appropriate social distancing.

Amber :Taking exercise with one other person or small group whilst
maintaining appropriate social distancing.

Green: Meeting one other person or small group to socialise whilst
maintaining appropriate social distancing

Try telling the grand kids not to hug or touch you. It is barmy, the poor mites have been locked up for 10 weeks now.

Sorry sun that's really hard . I really feel for anyone who is far away from family at the moment.

They're delusional to think they could maintain that level of control. Cafes can open but if you're not living under the same roof with a partner, you should have had no physical contact with them in what, 6 months?!

My family live locally, I could walk there. But we've so far stuck to the rules and only dropped food off outside their house.

Based on this - gov.wales/coronavirus-what-does-law-wales-say

I'd say there's absolutely nothing stopping people from hugging their family. Once we are allowed to visit them, as at the moment technically the journey wouldn't be classed as exercise, work or food so I suppose they could fine you on that basis.

I want to follow the guidelines, I want to do everything I can to keep the good progress going. But it would help if they made it easier for people to do that instead of saying "use your common sense".

It feels as though we are living in the Handmaid's Tale.

Try telling the grand kids not to hug or touch you. It is barmy, the poor mites have been locked up for 10 weeks now.

That's what has promoted me thinking about this. I'm taking my daughter to see her Nan at the end of the week, she adores her and hasn't seen her for 11 weeks. She used to go there twice a week and we would always be popping in and out in-between.

But it's going to be impossible to ask her not to touch her, it would really distress her she's not even 3 years old.

And what's the point of it? None of us have been within 2m of anyone outside our household in months. We've been shopping as little as possible. There is zero chance we have coronavirus (besides the fact we are all
pretty sure we all have had it already). How is it going to hurt anyone?

Even if we haven't had it and somehow did have it now, we would infect ourselves and no one else. The world would be no worse or better off.

I have just had delivered a completely non-essential blow up plastic palm tree

Both neighbours have had local family quietly poping around or stopping over nearly thoughout - can't say I blame.

Our problem is we'd also need to travel by train - so can't really sneak across the border.

DS wanted so much to hold hands with his grandad when we saw him - but FiL wasn’t comfortable with it. DS was ok, but it was a shame.

My family are all an overnight stay distance away - we haven’t seen them since Christmas. Still no word on when we will, either. I miss my mum so much.

My 6 and 4 year olds are fine with not getting too close when people come to chat to us from the end of the drive, but obviously can’t explain it to the 16 month old.
Actually feel worse for my mum, she hasn’t had physical contact with another human being since mid March!

So I've just been looking at the live update page on the BBC News website and Sarah Wollaston MO is frothing away about questioning Boris Johnson about his handling of the pandemic later.

And one thing she said is this:

"we are now expecting a second wave"

Isn't this mad? I thought people (including the WHO) are now saying we aren't expecting a second wave. And even if we are, locking us all in cages isn't going to help. It certainly doesn't seem to have helped with the first wave.

Some experts and models predictions are saying a second wave is less likely not yet saying it won't happen yet.

So I think it isn't filtering through to many but more data is coming in all the time and there is a delay in it getting picked up and understood.

I think BBC news are having a real dementor day today.

If any school is taping stuff up like that then they’re just doing it to make a point.
Dicks.

I’m fed up. We’ve been locked down since March. A ‘short term’ measure. It’s now nearly fucking June and we still can’t see our family and friends properly.
But yay, at least we can go to b&q.

Some of the dementors I muted a month ago on FB have been unmuted.

One of the particularly awful SNP ones seems to have realised she cant dementor about going outside anymore and is now complaining about people being pleased Douglas Ross has resigned, the news (apparently she cant watch it anymore), and, well, everything else she can think of. It's a bit sad.

@Drivingdownthe101

If any school is taping stuff up like that then they’re just doing it to make a point. Dicks.

Yep. That’s a lot of special effort. And then you need to send the pictures to the media.

Plenty of dementors on the school threads about how awful it’s going to be for kids, why would you send your children back. Shit like this makes me feel some (obligatory NATALT) teachers would prefer school to be more unpleasant than it needs to be if it dissuades some parents from sending in their kids/makes a PR point in the media.

Me too driving

I think they have a chance this week to keep people's compliance. If they harp on about golf and shops again without addressing what people really care about, I think people will just stop listening.

Little ones school have got more social distancing lines on the approach to school than bloody Tesco and Sainsburys combined! More white paint instructions on the ground than the bloody M1 motorway.

I’m furious how the head is going nuts to make a point- but I know the class teachers well enough to know they’ll be nodding and agreeing with the head over the outside and then make the kids happy and relaxed inside- the staff can be very candid with me at times!