Anyone else think F&@@ it after today's briefing?

[Sarahbeans]

After today's briefing, anyone else half thinking screw it, if Cummings can make up the rules as he goes, why the he'll can't I interpret them as I set fit too?

I have a clinically vulnerable child and have stayed indoors and been so strict the past 12 weeks, but even I'm now beginning to think what's the point? Clearly the govt does what it wants, why the hell should we listen to the govt any more? Lost all faith in them.

Pretty sure there will be A resignation from Cummings within a couple of days much like there was when the Scottish medical officer was found to have visited her second home twice ,as I recall Nicola Sturgeon tried to back her at first and than was forced to accept her resignation.

I've done a complete 180 in the past few weeks. I was all for following the rules to the letter, but to quote a PP, Now that 2 eminent scientists and a chief advisor sitting on the SAGE committee have shown us with their actions that the lockdown rules aren’t quite as necessary as we were led to believe...

We’ve just invited FIL over tomorrow for a sit in the garden with us . He lives alone, he hasn’t seen anyone for 9 weeks, he’s depressed, we’re seriously concerned about his mental health. It’s no different, and in fact safer, than meeting him in a public park. We’re “following our instincts”. Apparently that's good enough.

cumquat! thanks for making me laugh @iklboo

I'm due to have a baby in 4 weeks and my little girl is going to her grandparents while we are in the hospital.

Before today I was going alone but now she's going to grandparents.

Well the good thing is this is all a great distraction from Brexit rumbling along in the background (backstop anyone?)

And absolutely agree @Jaxhog, so.so many people have interpreted lockdown to suit themselves you see it all the the time in here .

Now that 2 eminent scientists and a chief advisor sitting on the SAGE committee have shown us with their actions that the lockdown rules aren’t quite as necessary as we were led to believe, I’m going to use my ‘instincts’ from now on. Boris said quite clearly today that it’s ok

We could call people with this attitude The Cummings Fanclub. Ultra fans. Desperate to do whatever he does.

Are you married or with a partner? I feel sorry for them. You want to emulate Ferguson. So you want to have an affair. Nice.

jax its not the point hes the advisor he helped make these rules

I've stayed at home for nine weeks, had my shopping delivered, washed it all, not seen my family and debated whether to have my dgs when my ddil goes into labour in a few weeks. Boris has now said its ok to do whatever is reasonable to provide childcare so whatever is good for Cummings is good for me.

I won't be doing anything differently as a result of these revelations. DH is in the shielding group and it would be hard to live with myself if I contracted the virus and passed it on to him.

I do very, very much hope that anyone who has been fined for flouting the rules challenged that decision. I can't see how they wouldn't win. Pah.

I have a clinically vulnerable child and have stayed indoors and been so strict the past 12 weeks, but even I'm now beginning to think what's the point?

The point is in your sentence. You can still protect your child, whatever anyone else is doing.

My DS hasn’t seen his grandparents since lockdown. My DPs in particular would usually have seen him at least three times per week. They aren’t vulnerable, we’ve just been following the rules. I feel like a fool now tbh having needlessly denied him the people (other than me and DH obviously) he knows and cares for best.

I can hear my DM saying “if he put his head in the oven would you do it? “

Definitely. I’m not going to start having hoards round for BBQs but neither am I going to feel remotely guilty about letting dd and two of her friends meet at the park together (socially distanced).
If he can bend the rules, so can I. I am using my best judgement as a parent. Should they be stopped by the police I will loudly and repeatedly tell any journalists I know the same thing (and I do know someone high up in the tabloids so won’t be tricky)

@DustyMaiden

Perhaps The Cummings Fanclub would indeed do just that. They so want to be like him and do whatever he does. He's their idol.

It's the 'instincts of every father' comment that has me raging. Others have been putting public health above those insticts. The parents of 13 year old Ismail Mohamed Abdulwahab couldn't attend his funeral because they were self-isolating. That must have gone against every parental instict.

My instinct says my 8 year old needs to see her friends, and I'm not worried about the risk to her if she got coronavirus. But I haven't mixed households, in case she caught it and gave it to someone vulnerable. Part of me is definitely thinking "fuck that, I guess we can just do what's best for ourselves now", but I don't think I could actually carry that through.

This could spectacularly backfire. R rate will shoot up and there'll be an even bigger clampdown resulting in economic ruin and riots, and probably need to introduce martial law, as no police will be enough to enforce against the mass rebellion.

I can hear my DM saying “if he put his head in the oven would you do it?

No, but I'd gladly turn it on for him if he couldn't reach

I am fuming, and I am generally a tory voter, hypocrisy really irritates me. How could I ever trust a leader who says we should behave in one way but the political elite are entitled to do what they like?

Whilst I do understand peoples reactions, the advice then was never to simply stay at home, there were many many caveats including childcare. Likewise there was never an "Essential Work Only" directive. Some were ordered to close but other than those businesses you could continue to go to work if you couldn't do it from home.

On a political front it looks bad and it's like giving your opponents an own goal. On a human nature point I don't doubt he's not the only one.

What worries me more than anything is not corona virus, it is that within two month we have gone from a nation of rational people to one where common sense seems to have all but disappeared and people are literally scared of being near other people. The long term damage this lockdown is causing is almost incalculable.

but now it seems we can just interpret the rules as we see fit as parents??

No we can’t and you either know that we can’t and are acting like a petulant child, or you really think that we can, in which case you’re an idiot. Neither is a good look.

It’s the patronising “ instincts of a father” as if thousands of other fathers have been sh!t.

Thousands of other sensible fathers wouldn’t put their child at risk in a confined space. They’d protect them - by instinct!

There are far too many people around this country whose loved ones have died alone because of the rules this government asked us to follow.
What the fuck is Boris Johnson on about? He really needs to resign after this shit show.

No I don't, because I respect and understand the rules, even if that wankbadger doesn't.

I am really disgusted with the situation though.

Fucking Tories

kaMeloo
There weren’t any caveats that allowed you to cross the country In a car and spread the virus you knkw you are carrying with you.
I am quite sick of apologists like you now.