Anyone else think F&@@ it after today's briefing?

[Sarahbeans]

After today's briefing, anyone else half thinking screw it, if Cummings can make up the rules as he goes, why the he'll can't I interpret them as I set fit too?

I have a clinically vulnerable child and have stayed indoors and been so strict the past 12 weeks, but even I'm now beginning to think what's the point? Clearly the govt does what it wants, why the hell should we listen to the govt any more? Lost all faith in them.

@celan There is a castle in Barnard castle, hence the name

OP are you an enthusiastic member of the Cummings Fan Club?
Is he your idol and somebody you wish to emulate?

If not, why do as he's done?

I haven't, but there's no getting round the fact that some people have. We'd all do well to be aware of that.

Yep. On the Isle of Wight so I’ve uninstalled the app brought to us by virtue of his almost-as-shady-as-him mates!

Cummings will have to go in the end as I'm sure more details will come out that Johnson won't be able to go along with. What infuriates me is that the message was deliberately very simple and straightforward 'Stay Home' and now it seems it was just a matter of instinct after all. Treating us as if we are idiots from beginning to end. Most people, a surprising amount of people in fact, have obeyed the rules and stayed in, and if they got ill they just muddled through getting help where they could and just struggling basically until they were well again. If they had children, they couldn't ask for help unless it was in dire circumstances, they just had to manage as best they could. And we have all done this for the greater good, because (ha) we are all in this together. Such a joke.

I'm safe personally, having recovered from it, but I'm not breaking lockdown because I don't want to be picking it up and transferring it. Because I'm not an ARSEHOLE.

@Sarahbeans

I can understand why you're so angry & disappointed! I am too. Most people are.

'Do as I say, not as I do'

Has LONG been the attitude of Govt (if any variety).

I think we all owe it to each other to follow the advice of the scientists and try not to overwhelm the NHS & kill people 'before their time'

Your DD is vulnerable - just keep doing what you've done until now & keep her safe. Don't send her to school until YOU think it's safe enough! X

I think lots of people will be feeling this way. My 3 year old has been in tears this afternoon because he misses his grandparents and feels lonely. Presumably I can now act in his best interests and see our family tomorrow? It’s surely what a responsible mother would do?

Cummings and partner undoubtedly have a nanny to look after their child or, if one parent were ill, they could throw unlimited money at finding childcare.
The rest of us have had to manage to stay home despite illness, deaths, no childcare, single parenthood etc, etc.

Some of you are being deliberately obtuse and nasty. You KNOW the OP wouldn't put her vulnerable child at risk.

What she is very clearly saying is that it doesn't appear that the government are taking their own advice, so clearly they don't think it is as serious as they are making out.

I can sense riots looming in the next few months.

@Limeandsodit
Maybe take a look at the Mail online comments (disclaimer: I like to look at the comments sections across a range of newspapers, not a Fail fan in the slightest!) and you'll see it's not only 'the left' who have taken umbrage as you so narrow mindedly put it.

100% f@%k it. I wasn’t convinced by lockdown from the start, but religiously followed those that advised it on the basis that they had the facts and I didn’t.
Now that 2 eminent scientists and a chief advisor sitting on the SAGE committee have shown us with their actions that the lockdown rules aren’t quite as necessary as we were led to believe, I’m going to use my ‘instincts’ from now on. Boris said quite clearly today that it’s ok,

It sucks and I'm livid.
I work with coronavirus patients everyday (Not ICU) and it's still definitely out there and all around so whatever the majority of the population are doing it isn't safe.
I've limited myself to work and strictly indoors when not at work and I'm bored shitless with my life right now. I haven't seen a single friend or relative for months.
Any government person who breaks the rules should be shot out of a cannon in my opinion.

I've been using my own risk assessment and common sense rather than blindly followed the government. If the government told you to jump off a bridge because it's for the greater good would you do it? Because tens of thousands have had their livelihoods and education thrown off a bridge for this when the government never gave a fuck anyhow.

Teacher12345
The problem with common sense is it isn't that common.

There were hundreds of threads when lockdown started full of people trying to justify why staying at home and avoiding non-essential travel didn't apply to them, even going so far as to suggest anyone who said going out when you fancy a bar of chocolate is not essential didn't care about mental health and there's going to be suicides as a result of lockdown because nobody cares about mental health, and so on.

On Facebook I've seen a series of events where people idiots were planning 'legal' mass gatherings to protest against forced Covid vaccinations and against an unlawful lockdown. 🤦‍♀️ These are the people we share society with.

And that's before you get to little scrotes like Cummings.

its just astounding the crap he was coming out with-he was trying to stop spreading the virus by travelling?

the police must be fuming how are they going to stop anyone doing anything now after that

The arrogance shown by the PM this evening in his wholehearted support of Cummings will be the beginning of the end for Boris.
Cummings has to go now.
We must ensure this is not allowed to be swept under the carpet.

100% f@%k it. I wasn’t convinced by lockdown from the start, but religiously followed those that advised it on the basis that they had the facts and I didn’t.
Now that 2 eminent scientists and a chief advisor sitting on the SAGE committee have shown us with their actions that the lockdown rules aren’t quite as necessary as we were led to believe, I’m going to use my ‘instincts’ from now on. Boris said quite clearly today that it’s ok

Exactly this. This is what I will be doing.

@ IslandbreezeNZ

I think at the very least it would have been wise for Boris to come out and say that it was very wrong but that he will retain him as a key team member in fighting the virus etc etc Purely from a messaging standpoint/PR view that would have been better

Exactly! That's how Nicola Sturgeon handled it -except she over egged the importance of keeping her HS who then had to resign (public pressure) & that wasn't so great for public confidence.

I am hoping there's some 'proof' of his subsequent visits (surely someone got a photo of him there when he says he didn't go back up!) and Boris then has something he can use to hang him out to dry with without backtracking on what he's said so far. It's a small hope.

What I find very hypocritical is that there are many people already flouting the rules - many on this site as there has been plenty of threads about it.

Albeit not in the public eye.

So very hypocritical and distasteful really.

What does Cumquat know that keeps him where he is?

@madcatladyforever

Any government person who breaks the rules should be shot out of a cannon in my opinion

Off a cliff...

HealthyandHappy
What do u want him to do ring social services

He could have tried his nearby sister in law first. But yes,social services would have been able to help if he couldn't manage to care for one 4 year old. But it turns out he plus his wife did manage. Without help. He says. So he didn't need to pack the car for 3 people and drive 260 miles whilst infectious.
He's not a 'crap dad' at all though,because Boris Johnson said he wasn't. He's got integrity and umm is responsible and err waffle.

Spare your sympathy for a more deserving case.

What I find very hypocritical is that there are many people already flouting the rules - many on this site as there has been plenty of threads about it.

How many of them have been flouting those rules whilst knowing they are infected though?

While I agree that he's a hypocritical idiot, the REAL reason the virus is still around is because too many other people have thought likewise. It isn't just him. So don't just blame him, blame all the other f*rs who thought they could do what they want. This is a numbers game.

If we use this as a reason (or excuse) to ignore the rules, then we are truly shafted.