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Wanted to make the new thread quickly to get the link onto the last page of the previous one!

DC is a self-serving arrogant excuse for a human - someone else doing it may not have been such an issue, but he cares for absolutely no one but himself and his bank balance. I can never defend someone so intent on driving everyone into the ground other than himself and his cronies.

Told you I was cross - I'll go to bed now and maybe wake up a bit better tempered.

Yes @PickAChew he is a twat.
Yes @mascotte they are hypocrites.
But honestly I just think so-fucking-WHAT!?
If your plan is broadly to get as many of our 66m people as possible to follow lockdown restrictions for the last 2 months, then Job Done. The bitter resentment over “well it’s one rule for them one rule for us” really doesn’t have any epidemiological meaning. It’s just pathetic class resentment (NN am forrin and a longtime MNer so can say this without fear of flaming!!)

ruler I think you are being very honourable there giving him the benefit of common sense. It was just a self serving decision, he wanted to go, so he did.

The fan on my oven stopped working today but I managed to get it going by poking the blades with a screwdriver. Disappointed I dont need to get a man round. I would have let him go!

Hi everyone

I put a post on Social media tonight just the sort of stuff we have been saying. Not one negative comment. I am stunned at the support. Starting week 10 tomorrow in Scotland. We can oppose this. I feel good!!

I went to visit my mum today so probably murdered 10999 people

The thing with DC was that he was actually ill with coronavirus (or at least his wife was). I don't really give a shit about people driving across the country or visiting second homes when they're well. But if we're to come out of this towards something more sensible, we do need sick people to stay at home, and men who have a sick wife to look after their own bloody children. Quarantine the sick, not the healthy. It's not the best of adverts for suggesting that people should be trusted to follow their own sense really is it?

• I guess there's also the possibility of C) they gave good advice to the government, but we couldn't be trusted, so we got the more restricted version. Then the advisors just carried on and followed their own advice?*

I think this is spot on.

I'm not annoyed DC broke the guidelines. But I've felt furious that the government have tried to tell us he didn't. It just highlights what a farce this whole lockdown has been and how intentionally vague their information has been.

I think, when they announced 'lockdown' they expected, at best, about 50% compliance in order to flatten the curve (- but not given us anything like the reductions we've had), and then relax and tighten until most of us have had it.

They really didn't expect the compliance they got because they would not have complied in that way. (Think Stanley). In schools such as Eton they are taught that 'you understand the rule in order to find the most effective way to break them'.

The only way society has ever moved forward is by people breaking the rules.

Cummings is still a pratt

I just don't want to be governed by these people.

@TheGreatWave I'm pretty sure it was the between the lines common sense they hoped rest of us would employ, they just hadn't factored in how successful the stay or home you will die campaign would be!

They thought a few would follow but not all.

They fucked up big time on the whole brainwashing campaign and now everyone is too scared to go back to normal and they have no idea how the fuck they get us out of this situation whilst saving face and credibility.

The hypocrisy pisses me off. The fact that he clearly couldn't face looking after his own child pisses me off. That they won't admit that their own rules are bloody stupid pisses me off the most.

They have basically admitted not only that the rules are stupid, but that only dupes would have gone along with them so avidly.

That was the gist of Johnson's speech today.

My kids ballet teacher, the most lovely kind law abiding lady you would ever meet, (seriously think Mary Poppins in Lycra) texted me after the last press conference saying that “oh god we really are run by the worst bunch ever” bless her.

I’m wide awake while the kids are still sleep as I’ve just had a horrendous nightmare - this whole thing is really messing with everyone’s minds

@very

Yes, but this isnt the first time. Thats the problem. We have a LONG history of MPs doing just what the fck they want whilst we have to tow the line. The MP expenses scandal was indicative of that and this is yet another example- you have to look at this in the context of that and we are basically just utterly sick of it.

And here in wales I suspect the result will be keeping us locked up for even longer. Not for any reason, just to show wales are in some way more virtuous than Johnson led England. Thanks Cummings. I hate you and I hate mark drakeford and all his doom laden ilk at this point.

I'll be so glad if the sports centre opens up, I have a cheap membership and it really helps me. yes it was like some kind of festival yesterday here as well, so busy in the park with groups of youngsters and having BBQs and music and a new sign just saying have fun in the park, please pick up rubbish and sorry the grass might be not as cut as usual but we haven't as many staff right now or something. No police or anything.

How long do you think people in Wales will go along with being locked up?

I know health is a devolved matter, but I didn't think basic constitutional and human rights issues like freedom of association were.

I really, really miss the gym.

Beauty salons, and the hair salon

@nihilixica - I wish I knew. Maybe I’ve got very law abiding friends but I’m definitely the outlier in saying the rules at this point are cruel to children. I’m pretty sure a lot of people are quietly meeting up but I think it’s mostly within families and we don’t have any local family with children. Looking at Twitter I think the tide is starting to turn a bit, but teachers are definitely against school return, but most of them I know personally moan about it constantly so I’m not really surprised

@Nihiloxica I know. When did rights become a devolved matter? When did we decide they weren’t for us welsh? What evidence is there that we’re right licking down when the rest of the world opens up? It’s utter crap.

Libby Purves writes on a similar gist to us today in the Times. (MN told me of in the past for cutting and pasting things but have a look if interested)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fb9e7640-9df2-11ea-b3fd-83a0d4cc538d

I think it is Ok to post a short quote though

"...It is, admittedly, tricky. Leaders told us daily that every inessential step outdoors would kill someone’s granny and make a tired nurse cry: an idea backed with ghoulish, shroud-waving sentiment by, in particular, the BBC bedtime news. So it will take nerve to ease up and say, “Nobody is ever entirely safe but keep calm, keep distanced, wash your hands and carry on.”

But even law abiding people can look at the regulations made by their PM and see that they are being prevented from doing certain things by the Welsh First Minister.

Are they all nationalists who want an independent Wales?

Don't any of them resent having their basic freedoms restricted by the Welsh assembly when they are British citizens living in the UK?

More on shops today, I thought they would open in this next stage.

• The government is expected to announce plans to reopen markets, garden fêtes and National Trust sites, but most shops are likely to remain closed.

To be honest I'm shocked that anyone is shocked by the Cummings story. As if Cummings was ever the type to burden himself in order to follow government guidelines. It's always been "one rule for them" - not just in the lockdown but in life. That's how this bastard lot operates.

I care about Cummings breaking the rules only in the sense that this might be his (and maybe even Boris') downfall. In which case - pass me the popcorn.