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Anti Dementors Picnic on the Beach

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Mascotte · 17/05/2020 19:19

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HauntedGoatFart · 19/05/2020 10:00

Thank the deity for Prof Sikora. His Twitter feed is scientifically based, sensible, and hopeful. He is my new Patronus (or else it's one of those poor maligned bats).

The rest of Twitter appears to be one big Dementorfest though. Lots of "THE PANDEMIC ISN'T OVER JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BORED" interspersed with random handclaps.

AnotherEmma · 19/05/2020 10:03

My people! How have I missed this thread until now?!

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:04

The BBC still seems pretty bad too, what with it's delerium and VE day stuff today...still dementoring there isn't it.

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:05

It seems over 50% of severe covid cases have sepsis..sepsis causes delirium..but that isn't mentioned of course.

Nihiloxica · 19/05/2020 10:08

The logic of "this government can't be trusted to release us" is quite something.

It has as its premise that lockdown is the default state and we only get released if certain conditions are met.

Before we locked down having our movements and freedom to associate restricted to anything like extent could only be countenance in extreme circumstances.

The fact that this argument has any currency at all persuades me that mocking down was never and could never be again justified. The risks are simply too great.

Blobby10 · 19/05/2020 10:09

Had some interesting chats yesterday with guys in our factory- after I told them our insurance company have ordered us to provide masks and hand sanitizers for them to be told to wear. In a factory where social distancing is the norm, there isn't air con (the most virulent spreader of any virus). its a dirty job so everyone washes their hands before eating/drinking, no one uses public transport - they all cycle or walk or use own cars.

SophieB100 · 19/05/2020 10:12

Loads of symptoms being linked to Covid are typical symptoms of any type of debilitating virus or illness: fatigue, muscle pain, hallucinations and rashes - typically caused by spiking temps, stomach issues - typical of being poorly with anything. Looking at the amount of people tested everyday who are negative for Covid - at least 3 times more than are positive.

I'm worried actually about the mental health of the students who will return to our school - (Year 10) - having seen the plans, it is going to be so unfamiliar and alien to them - new routes in and out of school and their designated class room - in a bubble of 8 max, supervised entry in and out - same bubble all day which is staggered for breaks/lunch to the other bubbles...hourly hand washing, no writing in books, a separate desk each (which is their desk for the rest of term - if they don't come in, the desk is taped off so no one else uses it). Their own pack of named equipment which is kept by them. Lunch collected on way out if FSM, otherwise no eating at all. No PE, no going to school lunch hall. Walk ways roped off and SLT controlling movement to outdoors/designated toilets for each bubble...And how long are we having them in for? 9 - 12 a.m. one day a week, from mid June. So, all in all, 15 hours of schooling each, until they finish in July. World's gone bloody mad.

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:15

That's interesting Blobby my DH's work is a factory he said the same kind of thing...even before this they also had stuff like hand sanitiser etc

BarkandCheese · 19/05/2020 10:17

The BBC have been particularly crap today. Like most other posters I saw the delirium headline and thought well duh, everyone knows very high temperatures cause delirium, that’s hardly unexpected. Then the story about the VE Day “spike” which went blah blah VE Day, blah blah thirty cases, no actual conclusion then something about Eid. It was an unproven non story which petered out half way through.

heroku · 19/05/2020 10:21

Can we have a ban on emails that start with "I hope you are well and keeping safe"? Mate, this isn't a war zone it's a pandemic. I've not left my South West of England leafy bloody postcode in 2 months. The only time I leave the house is run round the park and stand in a queue outside the greengrocers. I don't think I've ever been more "safe" in my life.

Pertella · 19/05/2020 10:21

Well, I suppose it makes a change from the "Your babies will die from this covid related disease even if they have no symptoms" fearmongering.

Nihiloxica · 19/05/2020 10:22

Indeed, we are suffering a massive overabundance of "safety" right now.

glotterbug · 19/05/2020 10:24

Waving from Wales!
Having a garden coffee with my mum today, I really need it and I will enjoy it!

DrearyWallAntler · 19/05/2020 10:25

The article on the BBC about the additional 30 cases is terrible. If any of those Dr's actually said anything like that I am {in best daily mail fashion} shocked. Shocked.

We are talking about a disease that has an incubation of between 5 and 28 days and a median of around 14 days. Also critical is that people are not likely to present to a HCP on day 1 of symptoms, its more like to be days 3-7 based on deterriation.

Basically anyone infected will likely be presenting to hospital between 8 and 35 days after infection. Median around 20 days from infection. VE day was 11 days ago, so unless every single one was at the lower end of the known timeline its extremely unlikely that this has anything to do with VE day. And even if they asked everyone if they broke the 'rulez' on VE day and they all said yes (which they won't, because people you know, lie) then I would still be cautious about believing it was from that vector.

I call stinky stinky bullshit.

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:28

I have not trusted the BBC since their clapping injuries story..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52506114

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:29

Hang on the clapping doctor is the same Bradford one used in the other article is it not...about the VE day...hmm

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:29

2 May 2020
The Thursday evening clap for carers gets louder and more joyous every week. It is a deeply moving tribute that captures the very essence of our communal spirit in these times of adversity. It is also the only time communities now come together and generates a rare feeling of release and togetherness, a faint memory of a previous era.
But when people have gone out to clap we've seen interesting little peaks in accident rates that we weren't expecting.
People might need to be a bit more cautious, especially if they've been sitting down all day and then get up to clap. It might be one of the only times older people come outside and so there is a risk of falling and I'd just remind people to take care.
"The clap for carers has made us a little busier," says Richard Pilling, consultant orthopaedic surgeon at Harrogate District Hospital.
"It's very nice that everyone is very enthusiastic about showing support but it's escalated, so people are coming out banging pans and seeing who can clap the loudest, and therein accidents lie.
"It's nice to walk on to your doorstep and show appreciation, it's a chance to see your neighbours, and it's lovely to see people sticking together during the lockdown. Just do it less vigorously - you don't have to be the loudest on the street."

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Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:31

Not Grin about the elderly falling of course, but about the whole drama and angst of the thing and not being about common sense. Clapping injuries..

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:32

a rare feeling of release and togetherness, a faint memory of a previous era Hmm

Nihiloxica · 19/05/2020 10:33

Dear god, what has become of us ShockGrin

"People might need to be a bit more cautious, especially if they've been sitting down all day and then get up to clap."

GrinHmm

How is this a sentence from news story in my actual life and not one from an overwritten dystopian satire?

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:34

I reckon the drama in the BBC news about the R and this VE day stuff is all to make people feel scared again and worried and possibly stay close to home and not see others as much now that restrictions have been lifted slightly perhaps...continuing with the fear narrative

heroku · 19/05/2020 10:34

It might be one of the only times older people come outside and so there is a risk of falling and I'd just remind people to take care.

Oh FFS. If older people are only ever going outside for five minutes once a week to clap the NHS then that is a massive problem in itself. Now we're telling them it's too dangerous to do that even?! I give up.

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:37

Here os the VE day one, yes it is the same doctor as the clapping injuries one, Dr John Wright..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52715571

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:40

who looking at his background looks very credible but wonder how BBC has approached this...Bradford is also an area of high cases due to the high numbers of BAME residents I understand. There is an issue in Bradford with people not coming into hospital and being scared. Wonder if it is all interlinked in a way...

Orangeblossom78 · 19/05/2020 10:43

There are more BBC dramatic stories with the same doctor..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52623455
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52337951
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52236387

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