Should NHS staff go ahead in queues?

[JustOneLastThing]

I have only done it once, and got some evil looks from the others queuing. It was my only day off and was knackered and needed some essentials so thought 'just this once'-might not do it again!
It sort of felt like all the clapping in the world and rainbows doesn't mean much in the real world, but I might be a bit more careful about waving my lanyard around in the future (and yes, i'm frontline ward NHS staff working on covid wards fwiw).
Any thoughts from others very welcome.

It's because capacity was created but then the numbers were less than the worse case scenario but that wasn't known until it happened. Not over yet though.

I do know that it's the government but I also know that it is for the staff's benefit not the patients. Lockdown is also made to be for NHS benefit so we don't get overwhelmed. The people sticking to rules and fucking up their whole lives is thanks enough..
Yes Tonz that is partly why I'm embarrassed my colleagues and also how they brag about freebies and queue jumping.
I also agree @june2007 There are loads of people doing long shifts some in physically demanding jobs who also have kids they want to see but I've read on this post how nhs staff queue jump so they can feed and have time with theirs as if our children are more important than a bus drivers kids. Erm no everyone's day off is valuable. We arnt the only people with families

Of course it's for the patients' benefit!! It's not to give staff an easier time or free time that's crazy. It was to avoid complete overwhelm such as in Italy snd to avoid unnecessary vulnerable patient infection. As lockdown has helped in most areas, not all, capacity is better and we are coping. But it's ridiculous to say it as if the plan was not to treat patients.

Have you been part of planning or management at all? I can't believe you are saying that. You are way off.

That is the message given every week to be fair.. Stay home.. Protect the NHS. And leaving patients at home until they are gasping for breath is not in their benefit either. Probably caused a lot of death by not being seen She didn't say it was to give nhs free time she said so as not to overwhelm them which has been said over and over by the government so I think it's you who is way off if you think gasping for breath at home is in the patients best interest

Don't be ridiculous I already said patients need to be in hospital. And I already said it was to prevent overwhelm. Fir patients benefit.

No I'm not way off. Covid isn't going away any time soon. Lockdown will be lifted more people will get it and die after spending months at home.
Don't put words in my mouth thank u I said things were done to make sure NHS doesn't get overwhelmed and could cope not so we can have free time I didn't say that.
No t being admitted to hospital until they are seriously unwell is 100% not in the patients interest either. Nor is cancelled cancer treatment. They may catch covid they may not but some patients will die through lack of treatment. Is that in their interest..no

So for their own benefit patients are to stay at home until they are turning blue and closer to death. Mind blown

You said it was done fir staff benefit.

The govt advice in my opinion was too vehement about stay at home and call 111. This was in my understanding to prevent overwhelm and allow capacity for the sickest. In my opinion the govt dogmatic stay at home coupled with public fear of catching infection from the hospital has meant people have stayed too long at home. This advice though hasn't come from us! Any patients needing hospital care need to come into hospital. ASAP.

Tonz- if you speaking to me then read my posts. I'm a doctor and I advise patients to seek immediate medical attention and if in emergency to come into the hospital.

I am front line staff and I wouldn't and couldn't bring myself to queue jump. I would feel terrible going in front of others especially older people having to stand there for ages. It's nice to be appreciated but I must admit this 'key worker' praise thing is now getting a bit cheesy. Also the free things and discounts .....we are getting paid! I would rather it went to all the really vulnerable people that are struggling to feed themselves 😢

People have phoned ambulances who have went out and told them only to phone back when their lips are blue. Only having capacity for the sickest is a death sentence to some of our patients. How many have died at home including nurses not even managing to get through to 111. I
Who is benefiting most by only the sickest admitted to hospital..me who is not overwhelmed and is coping or the patients who get to me too late. No brainer for me

I am fully aware that it's not us it's the government.
You can also tell your own patients to seek medical help all you like but they will not be admitted until they are seriously I'll and it is wrong

Overworked why did you say you are ashamed of your colleagues and are going to leave nursing?

Sorry but no

I was queuing yesterday, it was boiling hot, no shade available, dodging cars coming right up close to the queue for over an hour to get into my local Lidl as they were only letting in 10 shoppers at a time.
I was at the end of the next group after waiting all that time and some woman and her mate comes over, says "I'm NHS and she's with me" no lanyard no letter and in she and her mate go. No one else was allowed in with a mate or a partner, they had been hollering that up the queue the entire time.
As a result and despite waiting for over an hour already, I had to wait another 20 minutes because of her.

I was so tired and had a terrible heat induced headache when I got home. The man behind me in the queue got really annoyed and said it wasn't fair, we don't interrupt their special hours (there are 2 of these a day at this specific store) but he was ignored.

For all the gate keeper knew she was blagging as he didn't ask for any proof. I could have just as easily done the same.

Yes you're all great. Yes we appreciate it. But no, that is literally taking the piss.

If you read my posts back you will see I'm ashamed of my colleagues because of the dancing and entitled behaviour nothing to do with how the hospital is run

And I won't let dh go in supermarkets. He's asthmatic but most Importantly he's a man.

I read this as an indictment of men's ability to shop.

my husband has a total inability to shop.... Unless I want to live on doritos and budwieser il do it myself

@stayclosetoyourself By the way I totally get what you are saying I just think we both read overworked posts differently

A young lady on my facebook who works 2 days a week for the nhs doing admin, who has been working from home since before lockdown and has a partner who is furloughed, has been using her nhs badge while shopping and announcing it online as being 'a perk of the job'. She posted pictures of her queuing for the NHS time slot on one of her 5 days off a week. Today she met her friends in the park, posted it online and dared anyone to challenge her because they sat 2 metres apart (apart from the kids who she said had sanitized their hands) and she said she works for the nhs so it's fine. I find her so annoying as I'm still going to work 5 days a week, but shes a close family friend so I haven't unfriended her yet. She shouldn't queue skip but you should.

I don't see much difference between sitting in a park 2m apart and various 'social distancing' VE Afternoon Tea parties where neighbours sit on their land (or just often near their land) to chat. Nothing to do with NHS though.

I actually have a pretty good routine going. I leave work at 7pm Thursday,’and go to Aldi. If there is a big queue, I use my pass to go to the front (cringe, but fine once you’re in). I then do my weekend top up shopping, drive home and try and time it so I am getting out my car at 8pm when everyone is out on their drives clapping. Then I pretend I’m at a film premiere (and happen to be carrying Aldi bags). Highlight of my week tbh!

Hi @Anon0998 maybe you should ask for your post to be moved to a new thread just about this problem and you will get some helpful replies. Just report the post maybe?

No I don't think they should get that privilege. There might be others who actually need it and don't get it : elderly people, those with anxiety issues that are scared to go out, pregnant women, others who have worked hard and want to go to their children etc. The list is endless.