Dementors Begone!

[ThatLibraryMiss]

Take your shaming and your doom and gloom somewhere else.

Statistically, your DC are far, far, far more likely to be seriously injured/die to an accident in your home while you're on MN telling everyone you won't send your children back to school because of the 'risk'.

The dementors can't understand that though.

I've been wondering about these school dementors..I wonder how many of them are the same people who, when on the school run, park on bends/double park/ open the passenger doors into the road? In which case they put their child's life at risk anyway.

Oh don't start me on face masks and gloves in the supermarket. I'm really not convinced that shoving on a pair of gloves and carrying on as normal, or wearing an ill-fitting random mask and fidgeting around with it is any more protective (for either party) than sticking a baby in a high back booster and going for a drive which is OK because it's a car seat.
Safety/ protective equipment is only going to be effective if it's appropriate for the job, and used appropriately following suitable guidence.
I'll leave it to the HCPs. (or should that be HERROIC KEY WORKERS RISKING THEIR LIVES FOR YOU!!! )

I am sorry for your loss, Driving, that's very sad and it's horrible that you got that reaction. Distasteful my hole.

The Swedish Public Health Authority encourage people to go outside, since the available figures show that most infections happen when people are rubbing up on each other in close quarters indoors. You don't often catch droplet diseases outdoors. Which is probably why the disease is now such a serious problems in our old people's homes. I haven't mentioned this on dementor threads, I can't be bothered.

That BBC article said the leading reasons for death in children over a year old were cancer, accidents and self harm. Self harm as in suicide, caused a mental health problems, which we know are made worse by the prolonged lock down. I’m not going to use this as an argument on any threads because it’s such a sensitive issue, but I think the effect on the mental health of children and teens will cause more deaths in that demographic than the virus.

Gosh you are all so sensible, this is cheering me up no end

I can imagine a strong overlap with the Car Seat Dementors who will keep their precious darling in ERF until they're 25kg, and any deviation from that rule will result in DEATH by INTERNAL DECAPITATION.

My 9yo is not 25kg yet, and I can't really imagine smashing his bones up to contort him into a car seat in order to slavishly follow the rules

Can I join please? I am utterly fucking fed up with the school dementors wailing that schools can never, ever return to normal. Why are children seen as collateral damage? My DD is ok because I’m educated and we have lots of books (plus I’m furloughed so I can focus on her). Plenty of kids will be living in appalling circumstances during lockdown. Why are their futures seen as disposable? Is education suddenly meaningless?

Not to mention the fact that I can’t pay my bloody mortgage if DD is unable to go to school. Do none of these people have financial commitments?

Do none of these people have financial commitments?

I strongly suspect most of them don’t have children.

I saw someone say they didn’t care if they lost their house as long as they were safe.

So what happens if they lose their house? They need to claim housing benefit or be housed in temporary accommodation, which is paid for by the government, using money from tax, which is paid for by people working, who they’re presumably fine with being “unsafe” and going out to work.

I want to word this very carefully as not to offend.
But what type of life are we protecting. I don’t know about others but we are missing out on many many factors that make life worth living. And I am in a better position that many others as we have both kept full time jobs. But what is the point of staying alive if it is just to sit in our houses day after day with no prospects.
As someone mentioned up thread children seem to be collateral damage. Children taken out of education (and some now unsupervised in horrendous situations) to protect just the very vulnerable. On the BBC article mentioned up thread it said that we wouldn’t have locked down if CV did not have such an affect on the most vulnerable. I am not saying we shouldn’t protect them but it seems like children are the biggest victim of this. And those children are not able to make any decisions. This is very much something that is happening to them.
I hope I haven’t offended anyone. Just curious as to what kind of “life” the dementors are trying to protect.

A lot of them do have children though as they’re talking about ‘keeping them off school until it’s safe’ (which is when? 2025?).

The temptation to get into dementor mode has just struck me? Is it infectious?

There will be massive FOMO once kids return to school then there will be all sorts of upset about why some children have fallen behind and who’s fault it is (as a dementor always has to blame someone!)

It's not offensive at all Houseofsticks. I really worry for the vulnerable children at home in not good situations, the ones who are not on a list but might be in e.g. domestic violence situations (possibly ranped up during lock down) and neglect. Also with social workers possibly off sick or not going out on visits as much.

For some of those children school must be like a sanctuary.

"I saw someone say they didn’t care if they lost their house as long as they were safe."

i think these people really have no idea of hardship.

Also if you mean be a dementor in favour of lockdown ending, I've already done it. It's fun.

House this is a safe thread to say that. it's no life at all. The s word is looking better for many of us. (Don't use the word or MNHQ will be on with their usual message).

When I mentioned this on a thread about assessing risk in terms of coronavirus, I was told I was ‘distasteful’ for mentioning it

I was told I was 'murderous' for mentioning that sadly, old people do die..

@HouseOfSticks not offensive at all. For me, I care more about my own DS's well being than I do about the well being of a stranger. That's human nature. I'm not going to lock him indoors forever to protect the health of people I don't know. That's the bottom line.

The temptation to get into dementor mode has just struck me? Is it infectious?

I think there's a difference between agreeing with advice/rules, and being a dementor. I certainly found myself quite happily agreeing with the stay the fuck at home messages to start with. However dementors actively compete to be THE most compliant, judgemental and critical person. They seem to actively enjoy frightening the shit out of people, and squashing any slight chance of positivity that someone else might be clinging to.

Can we add ‘schools aren’t childcare’ to the bingo card? I know this infuriating phrase predates the virus, but I’ve seen it a lot more since the schools shut. They bloody well are childcare if you can only work because your kids are in school!

I don’t get the ‘schools aren’t childcare’ thing. Does that mean every family should have a stay at home parent to be on hand for any time a child can’t attend school, for whatever reason? But SAHM’s to school age children are also lazy, feckless, kept women who just need to GET A JOB, aren’t they?!

I hate that bloody phrase @bookworm14 they don't like it either when you point out that your actual childcare which you actually pay for is also closed.

HouseOfSticks I totally agree.

Oh don't start me on face masks and gloves in the supermarket. I'm really not convinced that shoving on a pair of gloves and carrying on as normal, or wearing an ill-fitting random mask and fidgeting around with it is any more protective (for either party) than sticking a baby in a high back booster and going for a drive which is OK because it's a car seat.

I was queuing for Tesco on Monday (my second supermarket visit in as many days - shoot me now). There was a woman ahead of me who had a face mask loose around her neck. Happily chatting to people in the queue. I saw her inside at one point, and she'd put the mask on to do her shopping.

She was actually at more risk in the queue than standing on her own in an aisle where a one way 2m rule is being policed by supermarket staff And this is why I don't think masks for public use are worth the cost and difficulty. I have lost count of the number of people that I have seen where they don't use the mask to cover their nose, or the mask is flapping at the sides, or they lift it to talk to people. It's pointless.

I'm late to the thread, but I love the bingo card And the sanity.

Thanks OP!