Dementors can dement but we'll keep it positive here

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As one of those liars, I'll be hiding that thread then, thanks for the heads-up @OutwardBound2016. Or maybe I'll have a crack at reporting, since these people seem to think they are the police.

The way the Worried Well deal with symptomatic posters really fucks me off at times. There was a thread a few weeks ago where a single mum posted about her experience and recovery and they were vile to her, accusing her of being a bad parent and traumatising her child, questioning whether she'd really been ill - ghoulish fuckers

Dementor Overlord in Chief!

OutwardBound yes...you get people like that on those so called 'support groups' for conditions on e.g. Facebook and the like. Always have to have to revel in the worst possibilities and symptoms etc. It can be a total misery fest.

They aren't interested in things like conjunctivitis being a symptom for example, I guess it would be too mild to be of interest.

Ginandroses- yes can imagine the parent coming across MN, oh maybe they'd be interested in my experience, feeling a bit like sharing after maybe a worrying experience, seeing 'for parents by parents' - then getting that response! Nice for them.

Yes, @Orangeblossom78, it was just like that I was very free with the report button and managed to get a few of the twats deleted, and a number of us were nice to the OP, so at least she knew we're not all guillotine-knitters and dicks on here!

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There are two things I find kind of interesting/worrying about the dementing:

1. the mental health impact of STAYING THE FUCK AT HOME. What with not seeing anyone or going out to work, a lot of people's only view of the outside world is news reports and I think many of them have spiralled into anxiety and a distorted view of what's going on. I don't think anyone would ever deny that many keyworkers are finding this a hard and stressful time, but nonetheless leaving home, seeing other people and having a job to do is very psychologically beneficial and keeps you in touch with reality. Similarly, going out to walk and shop when necessary even though I'm WFH and seeing other people all getting on with life too is an important dose of reality.

2. godawful understanding of science and mathematics. A lot of people seem to picture the virus as a sort of... miasma or poison gas that occupies every square cm of air outside their home, and emanates particularly strongly from every human being. Also the emphasis on not doing anything until it's "safe". What is "safe"? Is life safe? Is your washing machine safe? We have never lived without risk and we never will. Risks need to be balanced.

I'm also very interested in how we ended up in this situation where the government are startled and worried by how over-seriously people have taken lockdown. Yet the usual default position is that we all live in a nanny state that causes people to ignore reasonable warnings blah blah. What happened here that made people lose it to this degree?

I saw it mentioned that some of them were very keen on Brexit as well, and now have moved on to this? Is that right?

Grr really annoyed. Am in a positive Covid-19 fun group on FB where it's only jokes and cartoons or uplifting stories allowed, so some joker has decided to put in a long rant about how lockdown shouldn't be lifted at all ever until we have contact tracing like some countries or THERE WILL BE MORE DEATHS ( caps not mine). I've reported to admin so hopefully it will be taken down, but just find it a bit upsetting that people can't respect the ethos of a group and have to pitch in with their dementoring, almost as if we can't be allowed some light hearted relief from this situation.

they’ll be keener when the furlough money stops

I reckon they'll be furious that the gubmunt is no longer paying them to sit on the sofa watching Netflix carrying out its duty to protect its citizens. GPs will be besieged with perfectly healthy people demanding long-term sick notes for anxiety.

Personally when the furlough ends I'll be praying that my place of work is allowed to reopen again, and if it is that we actually have some customers to keep us open. The thought that furlough will end because it's obviously not sustainable long term, before it's deemed safe for places like mine to reopen is worrying, not least because then in some people's eyes I'll be trading one set of 'free money' for another by needing benefits to live on at least in part, and that's assuming I can find any sort of work in an area that relies heavily on tourism.
I'd jump at the chance to go back now but I think we'll be one of the last that will be opened once other less riskier places have been opened and the results from that can be seen. That's just my take on it though.
That said maybe these swathes of people who refuse to return to work when they can will free up jobs for those who want to go back.

Bear yes I think also that staying in probably doesn't help them and also there's a negativity bias in the numbers used etc, seeming to grab on to any worst case reporting, which is again compounded by the dramatic reporting on it all as well. Also very fixed in views and unwilling to discuss or think through other scenarios / figures, along with a deep emotional response to anything which could be perceived as racist for example. Although more willingness to discuss (and blame for) things like poverty and weight as it becomes discussed more in the press.

I was tempted to point out that some people would find giving their DC’s a new, rushed through vaccine a little ‘reckless’ but didn’t

@rookiemere I'm normally pro indy but not to the point that it makes me abandon all critical thought.

@chainsawbear some excellent points. The shielding people seem to be particularly prone to this. Obviously it makes sense for them to be shielding but I know a couple of folk who seem to be transferring their own rational fear into thinking everyone has to be in their house for months.

I've just seen someone on my Facebook saying that lockdown should go on longer to punish people who aren't following the rules.

I've commented on a FB post about schools potentially opening in June and honestly I'm astounded.

Vast majority of people saying it isn't "safe" and they'll not be sending their kids back until September. Right ok and what's safer about September?

Children aren't immune to this but they're not dying at enormous rates which is what you'd think if you took any notice of these idiots.

So many comments like rather keep my child home than kill them. They'll never see their friends again if they're dead.

I got called ridiculous by saying your children will never live a risk free life and even getting to school on a normal day has its risks! Cars.. road crossing etc.

Those things are not risky because they're not contagious apparently.

My kids are at school as DH and I are both key workers. They are not dead, or ill, and neither are any of their teachers. Despite the vast majority of parents using the school being front line medics and from what I can tell not a great deal of social distancing going on.

There are no stories of schools which have stayed open being particularly affected, which you would expect if it was virulent in children, and given what many key workers are being exposed to.

I understand the caution about schools, I do. But it needs to be proportionate.

Yy Magda. By the time schools open, even if it's as early as June 1st, there's going to be plenty of evidence, from here and elsewhere in Europe, to confirm it's safe.

All the people who won't send their kids back to school until there's a vaccine (but not for our Anny-Mae, I've done some research* and she won't be having it so other people will have to so she's protected by herd immunity) will be whinging that (a) the school isn't supporting them by setting and marking work to be done at home, (b) they're not being paid to home school because the government wants people back at work and work feel that the contract is "We pay you, you work for us", and (c) the school will remove non-attendees from roll. Schools don't want persistent absentees on their rolls. It looks bad when the Ofsted inspectors drop in for a cuppa.

• Read an article on the internet that says it's dangerous because there's mercury and microchips in vaccine

Yes, I imagine there is an overlap between those saying ‘I’m staying at home until there is a vaccine’ and those saying ‘no way I’m getting a rushed out vaccine’!

Yes, I imagine there is an overlap between those saying ‘I’m staying at home until there is a vaccine’ and those saying ‘no way I’m getting a rushed out vaccine’!

Absolutely. They are called Vaccine dementors

The never opening schools again bunch are killing me - DD2 has regressed so much she's struggling to speak well, and DD1 has now lost the plot to the point she's kicked and pinched me black and blue - and it's just because they're floundering from the uncertainty and loss of social contact and routine. It's absolutely destroying all of us as a result of the impact it's having on them.

Yet to some of the dementors it's "a good opportunity to learn resilience" for a just-turned 7 year old with a speech defect and special needs. Fuckers.

Sorry - I'll resume fighting the dark forces now.

Absolutely the ‘resilience’ stuff is bollocks. I’m pretty resilient, despite my mental health (or because of - I’m very good at masking) and I still think lockdown will end with me back on ADs.

And although my children are at school it is still difficult for them, as it’s nowhere near normal there, and they are clearly both struggling. My oldest is incredibly sensitive and starting to obsess about routine to deal with his anxiety. He needs his life back as far as he can before those habits become entrenched or worsen and he suffers long term.

I’m staying out of the vaccine discussions. I’m in no way anti vax but I am terrified of needles. Not just as in I don’t like them but terrified to the point of having to be held down for a blood test (please don’t judge or take the piss!).

I know I will need the vaccine but I know if I’m not careful the deranged ideas on MN will give me reasons to avoid it even though my rational self knows better

Sooner or later there’s definitely going to be a crunch time when children who don’t have any medical reason not to go back will have to go back or risk losing their place. If the schools go back this academic year I’d imagine there will be a lot of leeway on that, but possibly by September, and certainly by January, I can’t see it being tolerated. I predict an absolute dementor fest when go back or deregister and home educate becomes an issue.

Afternoon, everyone,

We just wanted to ask if we could steer this thread away from mentioning other threads too explicitly. It's great to have this positive space to chat, and fine to discuss things that go on elsewhere but if we're too specific about threads it always ends in a bunfight and we'd then have to remove this thread. If we can keep it generic that would be brilliant.

Thanks!

PinkSparkly I’m not going to laugh at you, I don’t panic but I often faint when I have blood tests or injections, which is very embarrassing. I’m hoping the vaccine might be available in a nasal form like flu vaccines now are.