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Which Real Life Mystery Do You Find Most Fascinating?

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LifeIsBrutal · 28/04/2020 10:24

Mine is D. B. Cooper. He hijacked a beong 727, stole $1.25 million in today's money, and parachuted down to earth with it. His identity is unknown and it's unknown if he survived the plunge to earth.

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Bertoldbrecht · 05/05/2020 10:35

Lost Germans in Death Valley
Just reading about it.
A German family 2 adults and 2 young children were on a road trip through California. They were running short of money and time so decided to take a short cut through Death Valley. Unfortunately their map was inaccurate, their hire car was clearly unsuitable for coping with the incredibly rugged terrain and they really didn’t comprehend the huge distances involved.
One of the guys who located their remains (and in doing so put himself in danger in one of the most inhospitable places in the world) has written a good blog about the whole episode. Tragic but at least their families got some degree of closure.

Zaphodsotherhead · 05/05/2020 10:35

Sometimes these 'disappearing people' may be linked to people fleeing domestic abuse (or even just a life they'd learned to hate). They carefully plan and leg it when the opportunity presents itself, but the family, or partner, or parent can't admit to themselves that the disappeared had every reason to be unhappy and run off. And the person has often hidden all evidence of abuse from others.

So what appears to be a 'mysterious disappearance' may be a person who just does not want to be found.

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WaterIsWide · 05/05/2020 10:48

I realise the Jeremy Bamber case is no mystery. However, how he thought things would go after the murders was pretty much the realms of fantasy.

It's kind of odd, really, that his version of events being accepted as fact initially was pretty much the worst thing that could have happened.

Even though it was originally thought of as a murder-suicide the farm house should still have been treated as a crime scene.

OK, there's a lot of evidence not in the public domain but he would have posed his sisters' dead body with the shot gun and a bible.

JB just capitalises on the public's fascination for the case. That in itself shows the mark of the man. I don't care how much he is the, 'model prisoner.' Just think, if the then Home Secretary Michael Howard had not changed his life sentence to a whole life tariff JB would have been free in 2011.

WaterIsWide · 05/05/2020 10:58

*Sometimes these 'disappearing people' may be linked to people fleeing domestic abuse (or even just a life they'd learned to hate). They carefully plan and leg it when the opportunity presents itself, but the family, or partner, or parent can't admit to themselves that the disappeared had every reason to be unhappy and run off. And the person has often hidden all evidence of abuse from others.

So what appears to be a 'mysterious disappearance' may be a person who just does not want to be found.*

This ^

For someone to willingly go missing and stay missing must take a very strong mind. To never wonder how their family and friends are. Although if they cared, they would have stayed.

I suppose they just make new friends whether or not they change their identity.

Most missing persons who have been gone for over a year, are probably dead.

Although, I do understand some 'missing people' feel they can't return because of the upset their disappearance caused.

Peapod29 · 05/05/2020 11:00

And 99% of people in Portugal can tell you what really happened.

I know it will be delete but what?! What do they know that the British public don’t? Is there something that the press can’t report on here or something?

WaterIsWide · 05/05/2020 11:04

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Peapod29 · 05/05/2020 11:10

I think what’s apparent with a lot of the missing persons/unsolved murder cause is that the investigations by police were conducted very poorly, inc. the most famous ‘one’. I’m afraid I don't think you can trust any thing further the police say after the initial fuck up, because their motive changes from trying to solve the crime to covering up their inadequacies.

WaterIsWide · 05/05/2020 11:10

The reason the JBR case can be debated at length without censure but not the disappearance of the little girl on holiday is because nobody is worried about legal action regarding discussing the JBR case.

WaterIsWide · 05/05/2020 11:14

I think what’s apparent with a lot of the missing persons/unsolved murder cause is that the investigations by police were conducted very poorly, inc. the most famous ‘one’. I’m afraid I don't think you can trust any thing further the police say after the initial fuck up, because their motive changes from trying to solve the crime to covering up their inadequacies.

Because the original narrative (from the white, middle class professional parents) was believed.

Londonsuffolkmummy · 05/05/2020 11:22

I don’t know the woman’s name but a young girl was murdered I think 80s? At a party/ball and the killers name will never be released the details are being held at the British library

I heard about this case a few years back on radio 4

They were going to release the name to her siblings but at the last minute they were told the name can’t be revealed for another 90 years due to the shame on the family as they are in the public eye

I’m
Presuming it’s royalty

Does anyone else know about this case

I think she was murdered in Scotland not too sure

notchickenagain · 05/05/2020 11:29

Just to let you know wateriswide I have reported your post so keep your allegations to yourself and fb friends. Unless you are either Kate or Gerry McCann you have no basis for your accusations.

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LifeIsBrutal · 05/05/2020 12:14

Another case that might interest you guys, as it does me, is the Hollinwell Incident.

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Pootle40 · 05/05/2020 12:21

@Wateriswide

Was that the Chris Watts case you were reading about ? That was the saddest case ever and just the most bizarre twist in a family's story. I was a bit obsessed with it at the time and probably read too much on it.

EllieQ · 05/05/2020 12:38

@Pootle40 What did you think was the ‘bizarre twist’ in the Chris Watts case? I remember it being reported at the time, and it seemed like a (sadly) standard ‘man kills his family’ story.

WaterIsWide · 05/05/2020 12:40

@Pootle40

Yep, I'd never heard of it until yesterday. Chris Watts is some sort of psychopath. He murdered them all so he could be with his here today gone tomorrow lover ? He drove to the middle of nowhere to put his kids bodies in an oil silo and dug a shallow grave to bury his wife. He then got on with the rest of his day as nothing had happened.

His verbal and written confession is so matter of fact in a kind of, 'by the way' style.

I watched a podcast done by someone named on this thread. She makes a big deal about the time his wife came home from a business trip, just before 2am and some random person walking past their house shortly afterwards, whom she claims is female. To me, the image isn't clear enough to say. This was recorded on their ring doorbell/cctv thing. She truly believes it was his girlfriend whom she believes assisted him with the crime.

He murdered his wife who was pregnant with their son and their two daughters a couple of hours after his wife returned from her business trip.

He's found God in his prison cell, natch. He hopes to become a prison chaplain so he can counsel other convicts. As someone has commented, 'so he's the new messiah now as well' yep that cemented my understanding of the murderers ego !

FlamingoAndJohn · 05/05/2020 12:41

As much as anything else, throwing around allegations about MM will get the thread deleted.

Frownette · 05/05/2020 13:06

@Londonsuffolkmummy that sounds intriguing - I can't see how anyone would escape justice, even if they're royalty and their name is not to be released.

I'll have a google search but there's not much to go on!

CoolCarrie · 05/05/2020 13:09

Funny how many of these bastards find god in jail!

The case that cannot be named was probably the person waking up and wandering away, sadly ending up in the sea, and other people panicked instead of facing up to their actions on that night.

bullyingadvice2017 · 05/05/2020 13:17

Must be terrible fir a loved one to just disappeare. I often wonder if there's some kind of abuse going on tho. I mean it could be the only way out you see to just start a new life away.

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