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Teachers should show some courage and get back in the classrooms

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MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 21/04/2020 16:16

This article in The Telegraph has made me so angry! Yes, I know it's the Tory paper, and that is a clickbaity title. But it seems just short of suggesting we should be prepared to die and just crack on!

I am a teacher and I live with vulnerable people. I am terrified when I read the news sometimes. I know teacher threads are inflammatory on here, but I wanted to share this. I wish there was some way of replying to this women, but it is probably exactly the raging looney leftie teacher replies that she wants. How dare she suggest this.

I have copied it here because of the paywall: It was sent to me.

Across Europe, moves are now being made to reopen schools. Yet in Britain asking when children might return to the classroom is deemed off-limits. Leaders of the main teaching unions have called for an end to ‘irresponsible speculation’ over when schools might reopen. The consensus seems to be not any time soon. Over 165,000 people have signed the The National Education Union’s petition to delay reopening schools. In response, ministers have now rejected a suggestion that schools may open next month.

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson insists, schools ‘will only reopen when the scientific advice indicates it is the right time to do so.’ He echoes the words of Paul Whiteman, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, who argues: ‘A return to school is not a matter for debate – it is a question for science.’

Of course, the latest science about coronavirus must be taken into account. But science alone cannot decide for us if the risk of reopening schools outweighs the risk from schools remaining closed. These are moral and political, not scientific, decisions.

If schools reopen children may become infected with Covid-19 and they may pass the virus on to adults. The science is inconclusive. We know that children who catch coronavirus are highly unlikely to fall seriously ill or, indeed, to show any symptoms. Frustratingly, we do not know to what extent children without symptoms may transmit the virus. One study, carried out at University College London, suggests school closures are likely to have little impact on the spread of coronavirus. By closing schools we have assumed the worst: that children are 'virus-spreaders'.

Coronavirus will not go away any time soon. The logic of adopting a worst case scenario approach is that schools should remain closed until a vaccine is developed. But this could be more than a year away.

There are risks to schools closing for such an extended period of time. Most educationalists agree that although online learning is better than nothing, it is a poor substitute for classroom teaching. Yet children without access to a laptop or wifi are unable to access even this. Efforts are now under way to get laptops to the most disadvantaged students but this may be too little too late. Children from the poorest families may fall behind their better off peers. A survey out this week suggests that two thirds of children have not taken part in online lessons during lockdown. Independent school pupils have been twice as likely as state school pupils to have lessons every day.

Missing school now can compound disadvantage. Researchers from Norway have assessed the cost of closing primary schools during lockdown. They show that it’s more difficult for parents, often mothers, to work if their children are not at school and this has an impact on their earnings. They suggest that younger pupils may never fully make up for the time lost in school, at huge cost to their future life chances and earnings potential.

The costs of closing schools are not just educational or economic. Around 13 per cent of pupils currently receive a free school lunch; for some this may be their main meal of the day. For many children school means physical activity in PE lessons, at sports clubs, running around in the playground, or just walking to and from class. Meeting friends and having a routine are vital for children’s mental health. An Oxford University study suggests one child in five is so worried about coronavirus they do not want to leave their homes.

For all these reasons, schools need to reopen sooner rather than later. We cannot afford to wait until a vaccine has been developed. Neither can we expect social distancing to take place in schools; corridors are too narrow, classrooms too small and children too impetuous. Some sensible precautions might help mitigate the likelihood of transmission. Assemblies can be scrapped; the start and end of the school day staggered, as can play times and lunch breaks; perhaps different year groups could attend on different days. Nonetheless, not just teachers but all the adults in schools will be at heightened risk of infection.

Right now, in these exceptional times, society asks doctors and nurses, care workers, hospital cleaners and caterers, bus drivers and refuse collectors to confront risks to their health every single day. The rest of us depend upon not just their expertise but their bravery. Each day these key workers fearlessly fulfil a duty to safeguard everyone else.

Asking teachers to stand before a class of children is in no way comparable to demanding nurses tend to patients in an intensive care unit. But the time is now right for teachers to show courage and re-enter the classroom. For some teachers with pre-existing medical conditions this may be too big a risk to contemplate. In which case, we may need former teachers to step up to the plate. I, for one, would happily volunteer.

There are risks to reopening schools but there are also educational, economic, social and psychological consequences to keeping schools shut, all of which take a toll on health and wellbeing. We owe it to children to start discussing when schools will reopen.

Joanna Williams is director of the Freedom, Democracy and Victimhood Project at the think tank, Civitas

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BlessYourCottonSocks · 21/04/2020 16:21

Can't argue with stupid people. People who don't teach think they know it all. People who work for a 'think tank' could perhaps volunteer to get into a classroom. Crack on Joanna!

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MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 21/04/2020 16:22

She does say she would happily volunteer, doesn't she? I wonder if she expects to have PPE that is still in short supply for our front line health staff.

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0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 21/04/2020 16:24

Joanna can't even be bothered to wait and give the medics some time to develop a treatment strategy that might help these teachers if they do as she suggests?

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RigaBalsam · 21/04/2020 16:27

Asking teachers to stand before a class of children

*Has she ever been in a school corridor or has any idea how many people it takes to run a school not to mention met any children en masse?

Also quoting flawed limited articles smells of desperation for a scoop.

At best clueless Joanna at worst well...*

Grasspigeons · 21/04/2020 16:29

Victimhood project?

pinkrocker · 21/04/2020 16:32

Has everyone got their popcorn? Daffodil

HeffalumpsCantDance · 21/04/2020 16:32

Civitas is a dodgy organisation.

Appuskidu · 21/04/2020 16:35

Flowers for Joanna.

Astoatora54 · 21/04/2020 16:36

Across Europe, moves are now being made to reopen schools.

You're right and it is especially annoying that the article begins with this false statement. Where in Europe? Sorry but it really annoys me when Europe is used to say everywhere that isn't the UK - as if other countries don't exist. I am in a country "in Europe" and we are not opening out schools next year and we are planning on continuing distance learning in September!

Astoatora54 · 21/04/2020 16:36

*until at least next year

noblegiraffe · 21/04/2020 16:40

Around 13 per cent of pupils currently receive a free school lunch; for some this may be their main meal of the day

Is this so poorly researched that she doesn’t know that they’re still getting free meals or a voucher?

She’s saying that she is happy to volunteer, full in the knowledge that a think tank wonk is so useless that no school would want her.

IlsaLund · 21/04/2020 16:42

And the bottom line is the decision isn't down to teachers - schools are waiting for government guidance. It isn't the 'cowardice' of teachers keeping schools closed.

We owe it to children to start discussing when schools will reopen.
Does she really think that teachers make those kinds of decisions? I'm sure the powers that be are having many discussions about this.

What an inflammatory, offensive article.

noblegiraffe · 21/04/2020 16:43

The idea that the government changes its mind on the basis of a petition too...

RhubarbFizz · 21/04/2020 16:45

It is not just teachers needed to open a school again - it is Teaching Assistants, cooks, lunchtime supervisors, cleaners, caretakers, admin staff, buses/transport providers. A school can not open of the cleaners are not available or if people are not cooking to provide free school meals. Plus the people who deliver the food or meals to schools!

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 21/04/2020 16:48

There are other ways to get a free lunch.

Let's not pretend teachers are preventing children from accessing vital care! Teachers are there to educate. Anything else, the government has the responsibility to manage in a different way if it's necessary.

Daffodil101 · 21/04/2020 16:53

I reckon we should ignore the science. Just ignore it until we all think it’s safe for us, personally.

My husband is a frontline medic, He doesn’t think it’s safe anymore so I think he’ll stay at home until he thinks it is. So will I.

I’m being a dick, of course, though we are indeed both frontline NHS.

At some point we have to look at the science. I hate him going to work but the science says he’s safe with the right PPE, which he has. So it’s a leap of faith every time. Every single patient he touches has covid. All of them.

What can we do? I think everyone should exercise their choice. I would support teachers exercising their choice not to return. I’d like them to have a job to go back to. We can’t afford to keep everyone off indefinitely though. When will it end? Not enough taxes coming in.

Ricekrispie22 · 21/04/2020 16:53

Joanna is probably tearing her hair out coping with her children at home, has given up trying to home-school them, has run out of things to entertain them and would really like some time to herself.

Wanker.

Greenandcabbagelooking · 21/04/2020 16:54

I would love to get back to school. If the Government said tonight that they'd looked at the science, and decided that it was safe to return tomorrow I'd go. I miss my students, I'm worried about them, I'm worried about my friends.

But, we have no evidence that it is safe yet. The NHS is just about coping, it will not cope if schoolchildren go around infecting their teachers and other school staff. And then those staff infect their households.

I don't want to go back with PPE, that needs to be saved for people who really need it.

I think most teachers would have a similar viewpoint, though I wouldn't like to assume.

middleager · 21/04/2020 16:55

Put her in a school in an area like Brent that has the highest number of cases per 100,000.

An inner city secondary like mine with 1600 students where lunch time is a scrum.

Get her to drive the public bus without PPE full of school children.

The PM and his chronies use words like fight and take it on the chin. She uses courage to guilt trip teachers.

1point21gigawatts · 21/04/2020 16:56

Coz of course it's the teachers' decision whether to reopen or not Hmm Ffs.

noblegiraffe · 21/04/2020 16:56

Hahahahaha I’ve just googled her. She’s part of bellend Toby Young’s latest free speech project and normally writes for Spiked.

ilovesooty · 21/04/2020 17:00

She can fuck right off if she thinks this former teacher would even consider setting foot in a classroom again, virus or no virus.

Seriously that is a horrible and ridiculous article.

MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 21/04/2020 17:01

noblegiraffe I have talked to you before about teaching when I was a different username. Always great to see your common sense about our profession!

What you have found does not surprise me.

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WhatTiggersDoBest · 21/04/2020 17:03

Well she can crack on back in the classroom in an inner city deprived London school and see how long she lasts. I mean, her career as a journalist is clearly scraping the bottom of the barrel so maybe it's time for her to hand in her notice and apply to be a teacher.

viques · 21/04/2020 17:04

Reminds me of the wise old saying

"Those that can, get on with teaching and accept that they will be the whipping boys for all society's ills. Those that can't teach write snippy articles, open free schools or are pictured in national newspapers sitting on infant school sized chairs looking uncomfortable."