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Teachers should show some courage and get back in the classrooms

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MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 21/04/2020 16:16

This article in The Telegraph has made me so angry! Yes, I know it's the Tory paper, and that is a clickbaity title. But it seems just short of suggesting we should be prepared to die and just crack on!

I am a teacher and I live with vulnerable people. I am terrified when I read the news sometimes. I know teacher threads are inflammatory on here, but I wanted to share this. I wish there was some way of replying to this women, but it is probably exactly the raging looney leftie teacher replies that she wants. How dare she suggest this.

I have copied it here because of the paywall: It was sent to me.

Across Europe, moves are now being made to reopen schools. Yet in Britain asking when children might return to the classroom is deemed off-limits. Leaders of the main teaching unions have called for an end to ‘irresponsible speculation’ over when schools might reopen. The consensus seems to be not any time soon. Over 165,000 people have signed the The National Education Union’s petition to delay reopening schools. In response, ministers have now rejected a suggestion that schools may open next month.

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson insists, schools ‘will only reopen when the scientific advice indicates it is the right time to do so.’ He echoes the words of Paul Whiteman, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, who argues: ‘A return to school is not a matter for debate – it is a question for science.’

Of course, the latest science about coronavirus must be taken into account. But science alone cannot decide for us if the risk of reopening schools outweighs the risk from schools remaining closed. These are moral and political, not scientific, decisions.

If schools reopen children may become infected with Covid-19 and they may pass the virus on to adults. The science is inconclusive. We know that children who catch coronavirus are highly unlikely to fall seriously ill or, indeed, to show any symptoms. Frustratingly, we do not know to what extent children without symptoms may transmit the virus. One study, carried out at University College London, suggests school closures are likely to have little impact on the spread of coronavirus. By closing schools we have assumed the worst: that children are 'virus-spreaders'.

Coronavirus will not go away any time soon. The logic of adopting a worst case scenario approach is that schools should remain closed until a vaccine is developed. But this could be more than a year away.

There are risks to schools closing for such an extended period of time. Most educationalists agree that although online learning is better than nothing, it is a poor substitute for classroom teaching. Yet children without access to a laptop or wifi are unable to access even this. Efforts are now under way to get laptops to the most disadvantaged students but this may be too little too late. Children from the poorest families may fall behind their better off peers. A survey out this week suggests that two thirds of children have not taken part in online lessons during lockdown. Independent school pupils have been twice as likely as state school pupils to have lessons every day.

Missing school now can compound disadvantage. Researchers from Norway have assessed the cost of closing primary schools during lockdown. They show that it’s more difficult for parents, often mothers, to work if their children are not at school and this has an impact on their earnings. They suggest that younger pupils may never fully make up for the time lost in school, at huge cost to their future life chances and earnings potential.

The costs of closing schools are not just educational or economic. Around 13 per cent of pupils currently receive a free school lunch; for some this may be their main meal of the day. For many children school means physical activity in PE lessons, at sports clubs, running around in the playground, or just walking to and from class. Meeting friends and having a routine are vital for children’s mental health. An Oxford University study suggests one child in five is so worried about coronavirus they do not want to leave their homes.

For all these reasons, schools need to reopen sooner rather than later. We cannot afford to wait until a vaccine has been developed. Neither can we expect social distancing to take place in schools; corridors are too narrow, classrooms too small and children too impetuous. Some sensible precautions might help mitigate the likelihood of transmission. Assemblies can be scrapped; the start and end of the school day staggered, as can play times and lunch breaks; perhaps different year groups could attend on different days. Nonetheless, not just teachers but all the adults in schools will be at heightened risk of infection.

Right now, in these exceptional times, society asks doctors and nurses, care workers, hospital cleaners and caterers, bus drivers and refuse collectors to confront risks to their health every single day. The rest of us depend upon not just their expertise but their bravery. Each day these key workers fearlessly fulfil a duty to safeguard everyone else.

Asking teachers to stand before a class of children is in no way comparable to demanding nurses tend to patients in an intensive care unit. But the time is now right for teachers to show courage and re-enter the classroom. For some teachers with pre-existing medical conditions this may be too big a risk to contemplate. In which case, we may need former teachers to step up to the plate. I, for one, would happily volunteer.

There are risks to reopening schools but there are also educational, economic, social and psychological consequences to keeping schools shut, all of which take a toll on health and wellbeing. We owe it to children to start discussing when schools will reopen.

Joanna Williams is director of the Freedom, Democracy and Victimhood Project at the think tank, Civitas

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Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 19:02

recently retired teachers who want to return Good Luck with that!!

BlessYourCottonSocks · 21/04/2020 19:49

Good place to post this for Joanna and others!

Open letter from NHS staff calling for schools NOT to reopen yet. Obviously Joanna believes her 'think tank' knows better though..

www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-nhs-workers-call-keep-teachers-safe

Appuskidu · 21/04/2020 19:55

recently retired teachers who want to return

Find me 5.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 20:00

That NHS letter is a thing of beauty. The Guardian ran it too.

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 20:01

Our recently retired teachers do come back but absolutely not to teach : invigilation ; minibus driving ; proofreading etc.

Guess what happened to one of them a couple of weeks ago?

cansu · 21/04/2020 20:01

Just looking at some of her tweets - she is in fact completely against the lockdown full stop. Clearly, she is an expert in many fields. I don't know why we are bothering with epidemiologists and public health experts when we can ask her.

noblegiraffe · 21/04/2020 20:06

Professional bellend Toby Young was also spouting off against the lockdown. Weird that given they are so keen on free speech that they all hold the same opinions.

Oh and I just googled Toby Young and found he wrote an even worse article for the Telegraph a couple of days ago. Enjoy this shitty effort www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/18/has-british-love-liberty-gone/

“it’s up to the minority of us who still hold fast to Magna Carta to keep the flame of liberty alive.”

He’s set up a website for lockdown skeptics. I expect he’s bunked up with Joanna in there.

pinkhousesarebest · 21/04/2020 20:08

I am a primary teacher in France. We will be going back from the 11th May . We are currently teaching online whilst supervising the children of medical staff. I saw supervising but I mean working ten children, each with their own individual programme of study.
However that will be nothing compared to next month when we have to teach and also provide online tailored lessons for those who chose not to come ( that is an option) or for those whose turn it is to stay at home. Anyone any ideas as to how I can basically duplicate myself? Because my online teaching currently keeps me going from 7h30 - 18h every day.

Appuskidu · 21/04/2020 20:14

@pinkhousesarebest

How many per class are you going to have as of 11th May? Will they be starting on staggered times or phased starts? Will this vary by area/age/school?

Will medically vulnerable staff be going in?

Are you on rotas to go in at the moment? Who is planning these individual programs of study/online tailored lessons? Are people planning for their own class?

Apologies for all the questions!

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 20:32

That's my big fear about what will happen here pink.

noblegiraffe · 21/04/2020 20:34

Any kid who stays at home when school is open should be directed to the Oak Academy.

Appuskidu · 21/04/2020 20:52

Any kid who stays at home when school is open should be directed to the Oak Academy

Excellent idea-it’s DfE approved!

Has anyone had a good look at it? I wondered what the secondary teachers thought?

TheHobbitMum · 21/04/2020 20:56

You can reason with stupid OP. I wholeheartedly support teachers and delaying reopening schools until its safe to do so Flowers

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/04/2020 21:09

Pink
That will be impossible. If the government wants to offer this option, it would be better for there to be a central teaching resource. Not ideal in anyone’s book though.

Are the bac exams going ahead this year?

FrippEnos · 21/04/2020 21:34

noblegiraffe
Any kid who stays at home when school is open should be directed to the Oak Academy.

God, can you imagine the threads on here if that were the case. LOL

TeaAddict235 · 21/04/2020 21:42

Yes, we 'in europe' (that mythical land, like Africa) have been in shutdown for much much longer than the UK. This is week 6 now that my children's educational institution has been closed on a mandatory basis. And it we have been told not to expect opening before August. Would the UK stop comparing themselves to more rule abiding countries in Europe.

SophieB100 · 21/04/2020 21:50

I'm a TA in a mainstream high school, that has a large proportion of SEN students, who I mainly support. I love my job, I love the students and I miss them. I'm on the rota to work in school to be with the key worker kids, and it is fine, I don't worry about it, I wash my hands more, we try to keep to the 2m rule, (but with kids, even small groups of them it isn't easy). We were in over Easter holidays too, and will be keeping this up until told otherwise.
For what it's worth, this article is very poor - all our kids entitled to vouchers get them - and until the voucher scheme is up and running, we provided packed lunches and snacks to be collected from our reception every day. All of us are currently doing on line the latest safe guarding training, which we should have done on Easter inset day, because child protection is key, and our CP staff are still having day to day contact with vulnerable families in our community.
We also print off work packs for those students without IT access, and these are dropped off or posted regularly.
The article offends me as I'm sure it would the hardworking teachers I work with; we want to go back, and we will go back, when it is safe to do so, and that isn't up to us, it's up to the government. We don't control this - the government does.

moanyhole · 21/04/2020 22:31

Nurse here,as is DH. Last thing either of us would want now is for schools to reopen, mumblings here in Ireland too about the reopening in a staggered way, and choice being left to parents. How are teachers supposed to cope with that? Planning for attendees and non attendees? Also as nurses we dont want schools to reopen as it threatens to put more pressure on the healthcare system.

Mother of Divine, leave them shut. The kids will catch up. I have to go to work as its life and death
Education isnt so teachers shouldnt have to. I trust teachers enough to know that theyll catch up with any work not covered when schools can actually reopen safely.

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 22:35

mother of Divine,leave them shut cracked me up! I think you need to have words with various posters on various threads with your common sense and wisdom!

Downton57 · 21/04/2020 22:46

Recently retired teachers who want to return! That's not a thing, surely?? They might want to do the odd day's supply, but not at the risk to their lives, as they're nearly all 60 plus. Also, most of the recently retired teachers I know have elderly parents to keep an eye on, so it's not likely they'll want to risk their parents' lives either.

BlessYourCottonSocks · 21/04/2020 22:53

@TheHobbitMum Ah, but you're not stupid.😀. Thanks for the support and flowers. I just meant you can't argue with those posters who are adamant the schools MUST return as urgently as possible because teachers just don't want to do their jobs and they should suck it up. No acknowledgement of genuine concerns it will cause another huge wave of infections.

Iwalkinmyclothing · 21/04/2020 23:15

Oh god op, I'm glad this is an article and not your opinion, I read the title and was coming in to make the sort of reply that would probably lead to a ban. The writer is a fucking tool.

noblegiraffe · 21/04/2020 23:19

I genuinely don't think the people calling for schools to rush back know it will be MORE chaotic for working people than now!

Think about the complaints on MN when they find out their kid has a phased entry to reception and they’re only in mornings or whatever.

ittakes2 · 21/04/2020 23:39

I am sorry I agree that I could be naive but I think since all children across the uk are missing school they will all be behind and so on the same page? I get that there are some families who don’t have access to the internet or a computer - so that needs to be solved and the education department need to address this. Uk is well known for home schooling - thousands of kids who have never been to a formal school but still manage to pass their GCSEs and A levels and go into uni. Is remote learning for a bit really such a disaster? In my opinion better than risking lives.

MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 22/04/2020 00:03

Thank you everyone. There have been many replies here that have really helped me given where my head space is right now. In particular, reading that letter that medical professionals have written about school staff was really good. I hope this 'journalist' might consider reading it.

I have been avoiding the news a lot - but I was sent this and just wanted to vent about it, so thanks for that too. I'm missing the colleagues and others that I could have had a rant/laugh/drink with and each day brings new things to cope with, and some joys too. The sense of humour and sharp insight here is part of that. xx

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