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Teachers should show some courage and get back in the classrooms

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MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 21/04/2020 16:16

This article in The Telegraph has made me so angry! Yes, I know it's the Tory paper, and that is a clickbaity title. But it seems just short of suggesting we should be prepared to die and just crack on!

I am a teacher and I live with vulnerable people. I am terrified when I read the news sometimes. I know teacher threads are inflammatory on here, but I wanted to share this. I wish there was some way of replying to this women, but it is probably exactly the raging looney leftie teacher replies that she wants. How dare she suggest this.

I have copied it here because of the paywall: It was sent to me.

Across Europe, moves are now being made to reopen schools. Yet in Britain asking when children might return to the classroom is deemed off-limits. Leaders of the main teaching unions have called for an end to ‘irresponsible speculation’ over when schools might reopen. The consensus seems to be not any time soon. Over 165,000 people have signed the The National Education Union’s petition to delay reopening schools. In response, ministers have now rejected a suggestion that schools may open next month.

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson insists, schools ‘will only reopen when the scientific advice indicates it is the right time to do so.’ He echoes the words of Paul Whiteman, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, who argues: ‘A return to school is not a matter for debate – it is a question for science.’

Of course, the latest science about coronavirus must be taken into account. But science alone cannot decide for us if the risk of reopening schools outweighs the risk from schools remaining closed. These are moral and political, not scientific, decisions.

If schools reopen children may become infected with Covid-19 and they may pass the virus on to adults. The science is inconclusive. We know that children who catch coronavirus are highly unlikely to fall seriously ill or, indeed, to show any symptoms. Frustratingly, we do not know to what extent children without symptoms may transmit the virus. One study, carried out at University College London, suggests school closures are likely to have little impact on the spread of coronavirus. By closing schools we have assumed the worst: that children are 'virus-spreaders'.

Coronavirus will not go away any time soon. The logic of adopting a worst case scenario approach is that schools should remain closed until a vaccine is developed. But this could be more than a year away.

There are risks to schools closing for such an extended period of time. Most educationalists agree that although online learning is better than nothing, it is a poor substitute for classroom teaching. Yet children without access to a laptop or wifi are unable to access even this. Efforts are now under way to get laptops to the most disadvantaged students but this may be too little too late. Children from the poorest families may fall behind their better off peers. A survey out this week suggests that two thirds of children have not taken part in online lessons during lockdown. Independent school pupils have been twice as likely as state school pupils to have lessons every day.

Missing school now can compound disadvantage. Researchers from Norway have assessed the cost of closing primary schools during lockdown. They show that it’s more difficult for parents, often mothers, to work if their children are not at school and this has an impact on their earnings. They suggest that younger pupils may never fully make up for the time lost in school, at huge cost to their future life chances and earnings potential.

The costs of closing schools are not just educational or economic. Around 13 per cent of pupils currently receive a free school lunch; for some this may be their main meal of the day. For many children school means physical activity in PE lessons, at sports clubs, running around in the playground, or just walking to and from class. Meeting friends and having a routine are vital for children’s mental health. An Oxford University study suggests one child in five is so worried about coronavirus they do not want to leave their homes.

For all these reasons, schools need to reopen sooner rather than later. We cannot afford to wait until a vaccine has been developed. Neither can we expect social distancing to take place in schools; corridors are too narrow, classrooms too small and children too impetuous. Some sensible precautions might help mitigate the likelihood of transmission. Assemblies can be scrapped; the start and end of the school day staggered, as can play times and lunch breaks; perhaps different year groups could attend on different days. Nonetheless, not just teachers but all the adults in schools will be at heightened risk of infection.

Right now, in these exceptional times, society asks doctors and nurses, care workers, hospital cleaners and caterers, bus drivers and refuse collectors to confront risks to their health every single day. The rest of us depend upon not just their expertise but their bravery. Each day these key workers fearlessly fulfil a duty to safeguard everyone else.

Asking teachers to stand before a class of children is in no way comparable to demanding nurses tend to patients in an intensive care unit. But the time is now right for teachers to show courage and re-enter the classroom. For some teachers with pre-existing medical conditions this may be too big a risk to contemplate. In which case, we may need former teachers to step up to the plate. I, for one, would happily volunteer.

There are risks to reopening schools but there are also educational, economic, social and psychological consequences to keeping schools shut, all of which take a toll on health and wellbeing. We owe it to children to start discussing when schools will reopen.

Joanna Williams is director of the Freedom, Democracy and Victimhood Project at the think tank, Civitas

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LondonJax · 22/04/2020 13:16

And @Easilyanxious the Denmark schools are only going back part time. My DH has a colleague in Denmark and they were on a conference call yesterday.

Her children are in school until 1pm so she was rushing to complete all her important work before 12.30pm when she had to leave to pick them up. There are no before or after school clubs in the her area now so she's dreading the call to say her company is easing out of WFH. Because then she'll have to find some way of getting the kids home and safe whilst she's in an office somewhere rather than at home.

So, yes some other countries are sending kids back to school but it's not every child or all day. Parents are having to work the school day around their working day because the school clubs aren't open in many cases either so it's a very short cover day. Or they have one child home and one is school because of the difference in the ages of children going back. I just hope their employers are allowing the parents time for this rather than demanding they do a standard 9-5 day (or whatever their norm pre-cononavirus was).

ChloeDecker · 22/04/2020 13:17

Would the UK stop comparing themselves to more rule abiding countries in Europe.

What the what now????

Drivingdownthe101 · 22/04/2020 13:19

Would the UK stop comparing themselves to more rule abiding countries in Europe

Nowhere has there been any evidence that we haven’t complied with lockdown as well as other countries in Europe.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Starrynightsabove · 22/04/2020 13:26

Plenty of people are still working during the pandemic so I don’t see why, when the government says it’s safe to, that teachers shouldn’t go back to work. You don’t ‘need to wear full PPE’ just like other workers aren’t.

ChloeDecker · 22/04/2020 13:33

Plenty of people are still working during the pandemic so I don’t see why, when the government says it’s safe to, that teachers shouldn’t go back to work.

Teachers all agree with this although your ‘back to work’ is a little inaccurate.

Piggywaspushed · 22/04/2020 13:34

Can you explain how this is relevant to discussions on this thread?

Hagisonthehill · 22/04/2020 13:50

I'd let my DD in yr 12 go back to college.Given that all children have isolated most would be clear of Covid.
If some easdown happened after summer half term and then close as usual in summer we would have time to assess if the impact so would be better informed of the coarse to take in September.

Easilyanxious · 22/04/2020 14:01

Never said it wouldnt have to be gradual no one would expect schools to just go back just like that and allow all in
Just saying there has been some threads of teachers saying they won’t go in etc which is strange as a lot are already in working with children
I don’t think we will rush back and will be staggered days and children and maybe concentrating on say year 10 and small primaries etc
Hence why I said we will prob watch other countries closely ( France aren’t much better than us for testing if you look at figures , not sure on Denmark ) but there has been threads saying from some they will not go back unless full Ppe etc and didn’t the union leader say similar

Piggywaspushed · 22/04/2020 14:13

Sorry to sound like thread police but this thread is to analyse and discuss the inflammatory , emotive and inaccurate writing of Joanna Williams, not to discuss schools opening or not for which there are ( to paraphrase Priti Patel ) 762million 672 million 16 thousand and 18 hundred and two other threads !

Easilyanxious · 22/04/2020 14:20

Ok in that case some of what she says is true

Piggywaspushed · 22/04/2020 14:23

An awful lot of what she says is factually inaccurate so which bits are true ?

FrippEnos · 22/04/2020 18:17

Easilyanxious

She is telling half truths, these are often worse than outright lies.

TeaAddict235 · 28/04/2020 11:41

@ChloeDecker and @Drivingdownthe101 the lockdown in many mainland Eu countries permits house exit only with a pass- this is either a doctor's/ pharmacy note or to pick up groceries from a local grocers. An ID card shows your main residence, your car registration plate also indicates your town/county of residency. There is no "let's visit Whitby" as you will be fined. This has been in place since mid February in Poland, and from the beginning of March in Germany and Austria. As many of these nations have a history of fear being propagated by the state with severe repercussions, as the older generation still remember, they obey and encourage/ warn/ chide the under 60s to do so too. It's not rocket science

ChloeDecker · 28/04/2020 16:58

I know TeaAddict235 my sister and her family live in Cyprus. However, even in those situations, some people still flout the rules. And? This has nothing to do with this thread.
I would never dream of saying a whole country was breaking the ‘rules’ as a result of a few minor individuals. Besides, each country has different rules.
Maybe you should stop reading the Daily Mail.

Drivingdownthe101 · 28/04/2020 17:08

TeaAddict235 I know exactly that the rules are in other countries. I have lived in Spain, France and Italy and still have close friends in each of those countries who I talk to regularly. DH is Spanish, my IL’s live there. I have just got off the phone to MIL, she has only been able to go to the supermarket once a week and walk her dog within a short distance from her home since lockdown started.
That’s irrelevant to the point I made, which is that there is absolutely zero evidence that we haven’t complied with our lockdown as well as they’ve complied with theirs. In the main, people in the UK are following the rules that they have been given. The government have said that more people are complying with the rules than they expected.
Around 3 weeks ago I read that 900,000 fines had been issued for non compliance in Italy and approx 1000 arrests made. Similar numbers in Spain. A close friend in France was complaining about the number of people ignoring the lockdown rules in his town.
People in the UK for some reason like to think that we (well, everyone else except them) are worse than everyone else... a weird sort of exceptionalism. Generally, it’s not true.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 28/04/2020 17:19

I do worry about the stupidity of some columnists.

An Oxford University study suggests one child in five is so worried about coronavirus they do not want to leave their homes.

So obviously causing a second massive wave of infection, maybe resulting in a family member or parent being seriously ill will HELP those with understandable anxiety and not make problems worse? Being anxious about coronavirus is not a mental health problem - it is a reasonable response to a pandemic. Totally disregarding reasonable anxiety about actual risks is far worse for mental health.

My DD is old enough to know that her family, who live abroad, have children who already know they won't go back to school until next year. I seriously doubt that, knowing this fact, she would be willing to go back she'd say 'but why are other countries deciding the science says kids should stay home?'. She is old enough to know that the UK locked down late (we took her out of school a week early so we explained that decision) and she thinks already that the government got that wrong (worst death rate in Europe etc) so she'd likely resist going back too soon, and she'd be right.

JW writes as if the choices are equivalent as if it's a choice of lockdown or schools opening with only upsides to the school opening but they're not. Lockdown of course is suboptimal in terms of schooling but it's better than another 30,000+ deaths. Homeschooling for a while is better than being bereaved (known to have a big effect on education for many children)- which some children will be if we let the virus get out of control.

She's an idiot. Schooling can be caught up in time, lost lives can never be replaced.

And of course the lockdown impacts more on those who are otherwise disadvantaged but these were existing inequalities papered over by schemes like free school meals. How about the government pulls it's finger out and addresses child poverty properly rather than avoiding doing anything by having a few schemes in schools (and as many PP have said, there are measures being taken to help those who had free school meals already).

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