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Teachers should show some courage and get back in the classrooms

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MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 21/04/2020 16:16

This article in The Telegraph has made me so angry! Yes, I know it's the Tory paper, and that is a clickbaity title. But it seems just short of suggesting we should be prepared to die and just crack on!

I am a teacher and I live with vulnerable people. I am terrified when I read the news sometimes. I know teacher threads are inflammatory on here, but I wanted to share this. I wish there was some way of replying to this women, but it is probably exactly the raging looney leftie teacher replies that she wants. How dare she suggest this.

I have copied it here because of the paywall: It was sent to me.

Across Europe, moves are now being made to reopen schools. Yet in Britain asking when children might return to the classroom is deemed off-limits. Leaders of the main teaching unions have called for an end to ‘irresponsible speculation’ over when schools might reopen. The consensus seems to be not any time soon. Over 165,000 people have signed the The National Education Union’s petition to delay reopening schools. In response, ministers have now rejected a suggestion that schools may open next month.

Education Secretary Gavin Williamson insists, schools ‘will only reopen when the scientific advice indicates it is the right time to do so.’ He echoes the words of Paul Whiteman, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, who argues: ‘A return to school is not a matter for debate – it is a question for science.’

Of course, the latest science about coronavirus must be taken into account. But science alone cannot decide for us if the risk of reopening schools outweighs the risk from schools remaining closed. These are moral and political, not scientific, decisions.

If schools reopen children may become infected with Covid-19 and they may pass the virus on to adults. The science is inconclusive. We know that children who catch coronavirus are highly unlikely to fall seriously ill or, indeed, to show any symptoms. Frustratingly, we do not know to what extent children without symptoms may transmit the virus. One study, carried out at University College London, suggests school closures are likely to have little impact on the spread of coronavirus. By closing schools we have assumed the worst: that children are 'virus-spreaders'.

Coronavirus will not go away any time soon. The logic of adopting a worst case scenario approach is that schools should remain closed until a vaccine is developed. But this could be more than a year away.

There are risks to schools closing for such an extended period of time. Most educationalists agree that although online learning is better than nothing, it is a poor substitute for classroom teaching. Yet children without access to a laptop or wifi are unable to access even this. Efforts are now under way to get laptops to the most disadvantaged students but this may be too little too late. Children from the poorest families may fall behind their better off peers. A survey out this week suggests that two thirds of children have not taken part in online lessons during lockdown. Independent school pupils have been twice as likely as state school pupils to have lessons every day.

Missing school now can compound disadvantage. Researchers from Norway have assessed the cost of closing primary schools during lockdown. They show that it’s more difficult for parents, often mothers, to work if their children are not at school and this has an impact on their earnings. They suggest that younger pupils may never fully make up for the time lost in school, at huge cost to their future life chances and earnings potential.

The costs of closing schools are not just educational or economic. Around 13 per cent of pupils currently receive a free school lunch; for some this may be their main meal of the day. For many children school means physical activity in PE lessons, at sports clubs, running around in the playground, or just walking to and from class. Meeting friends and having a routine are vital for children’s mental health. An Oxford University study suggests one child in five is so worried about coronavirus they do not want to leave their homes.

For all these reasons, schools need to reopen sooner rather than later. We cannot afford to wait until a vaccine has been developed. Neither can we expect social distancing to take place in schools; corridors are too narrow, classrooms too small and children too impetuous. Some sensible precautions might help mitigate the likelihood of transmission. Assemblies can be scrapped; the start and end of the school day staggered, as can play times and lunch breaks; perhaps different year groups could attend on different days. Nonetheless, not just teachers but all the adults in schools will be at heightened risk of infection.

Right now, in these exceptional times, society asks doctors and nurses, care workers, hospital cleaners and caterers, bus drivers and refuse collectors to confront risks to their health every single day. The rest of us depend upon not just their expertise but their bravery. Each day these key workers fearlessly fulfil a duty to safeguard everyone else.

Asking teachers to stand before a class of children is in no way comparable to demanding nurses tend to patients in an intensive care unit. But the time is now right for teachers to show courage and re-enter the classroom. For some teachers with pre-existing medical conditions this may be too big a risk to contemplate. In which case, we may need former teachers to step up to the plate. I, for one, would happily volunteer.

There are risks to reopening schools but there are also educational, economic, social and psychological consequences to keeping schools shut, all of which take a toll on health and wellbeing. We owe it to children to start discussing when schools will reopen.

Joanna Williams is director of the Freedom, Democracy and Victimhood Project at the think tank, Civitas

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WhatTiggersDoBest · 21/04/2020 17:04

Then when she realises how hard teaching is, and fails QTS because she can't meet the teaching standards, maybe she'll idealise and trivialise some other profession instead.

Comefromaway · 21/04/2020 17:05

No way is dh returning to face to face teaching (and travelling on public transport to get there).

He’s been researching infection rates and projected voicing (such as you might get when shouting at a sports match or singing in a choir) and it’s high risk.

And dd won’t be returning to college either.

viques · 21/04/2020 17:06

noblegiraffe I thought I caught a whiff of sulphur from that article. Chum of Toby's eh, surprise surprise.

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icecreamscoops · 21/04/2020 17:07

Surely she realises that a lot of teachers are still in school and working! What a complete bellend

MitziK · 21/04/2020 17:09

Fine, I'll swap with her.

She can have my rented house and shit pay for dealing with every single sick (and infectious) child, every emotionally distressed child, every injured child and no job security/worse pension scheme/people thinking that I should be doing this for The Children rather than to Earn a Living.

I'll take her Writing to a Stimulus projects, pay, home and lifestyle.

She can be happy with her warm glow of moral superiority and I'll be happy because I'll be fucking minted and not have to work in a school anymore in return to writing any old shit somebody is paying me to write.

Seems a fair swap to me.

Appuskidu · 21/04/2020 17:11

Have just read something online about Joanna. She taught English for a bit prior to 2007.

She must know everything about teaching then?!

I wonder why she left the profession?

CaroleFuckinBaskin · 21/04/2020 17:15

Meh, I was working in school today. To be honest it felt like CV was the last thing on everyone's mind, you just do what you do to get through the day and 'social distancing' (lol) or in fact any sort of distancing just doesn't make the cut!

sarahC40 · 21/04/2020 17:21

Ah she can fuck off. Attention seeker! I’m busy online with students all day; I’ve had fantastic responses from my state secondary kids AND their parents; and I’d bloody love to go back. But I’m also very aware of my colleagues shielding, my parents who are shielding and who I’m responsible for help, and my own (clearly selfish) wish to avoid this bloody disease until the NHS isn’t quite so strapped in covid wards. Yeah, so she can fuck off.

sarahC40 · 21/04/2020 17:22

*helping

Mistressiggi · 21/04/2020 17:22

Honestly do we need to read this shit, even if it is to critique it?
It's like death by a thousand cuts

Notgoingouttoday · 21/04/2020 17:26

Plenty of teachers are still going into school and teaching the kids of those most likely to get infected, ie. nurses and care workers. There seems to be no recognition of this. The youngest primary kids don't understand social distancing so it is not safe and will not be for a long time. I wont be sending my kids back if I can avoid it and I think anyone that does is accepting that their kids will catch it.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 21/04/2020 17:28

Former teacher here - there's no way I'd go back while CV is still a threat. That article also ignores the fact that you can't just waltz back into a classroom if you've been away a while. Teachers need to be fully up to date with the profession as it is now, rather than how it was years ago!

I will also not he sending my child back to school until I am convinced it is safe, which will be when our numbers are very low.

HCP have no choice but to work because their jobs are literally a matter of life and death. As important as teaching and education is, it's not comparable.

FrippEnos · 21/04/2020 17:35

I bet Joanna Williams wouldn't put her money where her mouth is and com a sit in a classroom full of children till the end of term.

I'm sure that we can find her a desk to sit at and a computer to work from.

She doesn't have to teach just sit there in the midst of it all.

Harleyisme · 21/04/2020 17:37

Oh for god sake. Why do people prioritise education above health and mental health. Right now rushing back into achool is not the right action. Yes it means children may 'fall behind' but that is not a issue right now. Good health and mental health comes as more of a priority and a bigger importance. I would rather my children be safe at home and not rush back. Going back when answers can be proeprly answered and risk properly assessed rather than we think this and we think that. We are on anlong road to being backnto normal it needs to be slow so then the virus can be fully assesed and that its fully understood.

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 17:37

Joanna also perpetuates the ridiculous misreading of the UCL study. Fed up of that.

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 17:39

People from Civitas bleat about social disadvantage to sound good. To clarify they don't give a shit about poor people.

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 17:45

I love her hero narrative. Teachers are cowards. Refuse workers are fearless heroes. Yes, I am sure none of them are scared .

Rhianna1980 · 21/04/2020 17:51

Not a teacher here, but... a parent, a human being.
Newspaper should shut the fuck up and stop being a mouth piece of a lobby.
There, I fixed it for you x

Rhianna1980 · 21/04/2020 17:52

Absolutely disgraceful. Disgraceful.

FrippEnos · 21/04/2020 18:00

She is just another click bait hack.

minisoksmakehardwork · 21/04/2020 18:04

I've just seen this on a FB group I am in. Think it sums it up for me if it is true.

Devlesko · 21/04/2020 18:06

What a load of tripe.
Yes, some kids don't have laptops, but why not supply paper based that parents can collect.
Also, there's been threads on here with parents saying they are too busy to organise the online working, and can't be bothered.
Kids nicely propped on all manner of tech.
Some schools aren't able to provide the online classes for pupils.
it seems like there needs to be a universal approach, but schools shouldn't open unnecessarily.

summerdown · 21/04/2020 18:45

Of course schools shouldn’t go back until the science says it’s safe to do so. But don’t pretend kids can learn as well at home. The gap between the kids who have parents who can support them and those who don’t will get even bigger and if it goes on too long and we don’t address it when they go back could impact many kids for years to come.

Why shouldn’t we think about recently retired teachers who want to return? Maybe they could have a role supporting new teachers who have had their training hugely disrupted

LondonJax · 21/04/2020 18:54

I think she said it all for me in two paragraphs:

Researchers from Norway have assessed the cost of closing primary schools during lockdown. They show that it’s more difficult for parents, often mothers, to work if their children are not at school and this has an impact on their earnings.

And...

Some sensible precautions might help mitigate the likelihood of transmission. ....perhaps different year groups could attend on different days.

My DH has a colleague in Denmark. The schools have just gone back. He was talking to her in a call today and asked about the schools opening. She said her children were in until 1pm - then no other child care available. So she was doing all her WFH urgent stuff before 12.30pm, then off to collect the kids and do whatever else she could fit in around them when they got home.

So how does 'different year groups attending' help parents who can't work unless the kids are in school? Because it will be staggered groups and there won't be before or after school clubs - our HUB isn't even offering that to key workers - so it'll be drop off for 8am ish and pick up at 1pm (if it's like Denmark). I can see that going down well with employers but if that's what it is, that's what it is.

Piggywaspushed · 21/04/2020 19:01

I genuinely don't think the people calling for schools to rush back know it will be MORE chaotic for working people than now!

And Denmark has a highly developed provision and system for childcare and health.

I read in an article that the schools were not reopening in Denmark so that people could rush back to work. They are expected to WFH more efficiently.