Flight Radar 24 pt 2

[NoGravyForYou]

I don't know if anyone else has made one!
BA2665 has missed LGW and is circling again

I think it'll either go to the Canaries or Falklands, or both.

They move stuff for the military

I can tell I should be asleep, I meant Cape Verde not the canaries

I know the 380 landing looks impressive, whether it was text book or not is the subject debate on several professional forums...I'm keeping my opinion to myself.

Air Tanker is a "joint Venture"/PFI project to provide an Air To Air refuelling and air transport capability ( people and kit) for the military..it's a semi-privatised version of what in "old money" would be RAF Transport Command and also the "Tanker Force" of old (Valiant/Victor/Vulcan/Tristar/VC-10 etc)

@notimagain - go on, tell us, pleeease

Well..I'll go as far as to mention that the advice from the major manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus) is most definitely not to float along just above the runway, holding the aircraft off striving for a "smooth" landing in limiting conditions. (e.g; strong crosswinds) the idea is to get the wheels on the concrete.

Knew downloading this whilst getting ready for work would be a bad idea!!

Air tanker is actually the name of the company that lease aircraft. Yes they lease refuelling aircraft but the one posted above is actually a regular flight taking RAF bods to the Falklands.
It goes twice a week from Brize Norton, stops for refuelling at Espargos and then continues to the Falklands.

You will often see an Air Tanker circling the North Sea doing 'training exercises with with a couple of Falcons.

You will also see one in and out of Manchester, G-VYJL is on lease to Jet2.

Well..I'll go as far as to mention that the advice from the major manufacturers (Boeing, Airbus) is most definitely not to float along just above the runway, holding the aircraft off striving for a "smooth" landing in limiting conditions. (e.g; strong crosswinds) the idea is to get the wheels on the concrete.

Beautifully put.

and thanks tabletray for the air tanker info.

It disappeared off my FR24 mid flight.

So ‘showboating’ - putting the plane under stresses it isn’t designed to cope with for any length of time?

Getting the plane down safely is more important than smoothly? Which is kind of obvious when written in black and white

Or am I completely misunderstanding?

I did say I wouldn't say much on this, I wasn't there etc, but I'll try to offer a bit more insight.

I don't think for one minute the video shows deliberate "showboating", if I had to make an observation I'd say that it just looks to me, and this IMVHO, like a slightly early "flare" (the slight pulling up of the nose before touchdown) which left the aircraft floating along above the runway surface for quite some time. The risk with that isn't over stressing the aircraft, the risk is that in the case of a short runway you are eating up stopping distance whilst not being able to apply the brakes..and in a crosswind (as there was yesterday ) there's a chance you'll get hit by a gust and get taken sideways towards the runway edge..that's why Airbus/Boeing offer the advice they do. .

Pilots know the travelling public likes a smooth landing..thump an aircraft on and you'll hear about it as passengers disembark.."were we shot down?".."I'll pull my pants back up now"..."you plant it, I'll water it."? But sometimes/often there's a very good reason why a landing is firm, and striving for a smooth landing might be a bad idea.

RYR36RL Gdansk to Leeds pulled out of one landing, looks like they're going back for another go.

It's flown through again, not sure where it's off to now.

Ended up in Liverpool.

Thank you @notimagain, I’ll let it lie now - I wasn’t intending to be a pain and appreciate commenting on a particular landing is bad.

It’s really interesting to see the difference in how it appeared between someone who knows nothing and someone who knows something iyswim?

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You are welcome..

Given the interest in crosswinds this (apologies for the quality) is footage of Boeing test pilots doing the max crosswind testing/ certification for the 777.

I was still awake just after 1am when I heard a place fly over. FR told me it was an Emirates from Dallas to Dubai.
I live a few miles west of Birmingham and it was fascinating to see it had passed directly over two villages in Wales that I know very well, then Bridgnorth in Shropshire, which is another town I know well, then over us. According to FR it passed about a mile north of my house, plus many miles above, of course.
Then it headed over Birmingham. And within a few minutes it was over Coventry and the East Midlands, and I went to sleep.
It was honestly more interesting than it sounds!

Just found this thread. I'm sending an important package by courier overseas later so I'll have a look at flight radar and see where it's going to. Sad!

Papergirl We're not far away from you I think.

👋🏼 Marashino
Hello from Kingswinford

Papergirl We're in between you and the carpet place.

Someone’s having fun!

How do you lovely folk get the military planes on FR? Do I need the premium version to do this?

No Blobby, premium won't get you more aircraft. Military rarely show on FR24. You will get the Voyager and Falcons that play about the North Sea training, and the occasional red arrow shows up; but FR24 isn't for Military.

@recordbox I thought it might not be!! Son is in RAF and off on a military flight today so I wondered if I could track him .