Caroline Flack found dead

[LittleScottish]

Poor, poor woman...

I agree @TruffleShuffles

I think it’s hard to stay off social media anyway and must be very tempting to read what it said about you in the Press, even if it might not be pleasant to read.

And it’s not the answer anyway to say celebs or anyone to stay off social media because they might be upset by what they read. They couldn’t avoid everything being said about them if people are also saying things in the papers, on TV and even in real life.

I feel like the Internet has grown rapidly and no one really knows how to manage it. Of course there are implications of people being able to say what they want, when they want.

Celebs weren’t accessible like this 20 years ago.

Just to all the posters who say the celebs who use social media deserve what they get. This is a post I’ve just seen on Instagram. It’s by an F1 journalist who uses social media to give an insight into the F1 paddock not to promote himself in anyway yet he still gets messages telling him to kill himself. The culture of abuse online is disgraceful and to say it’s dealt with simply by not courting publicity is a joke. If someone who 99% of people on here have probably never heard gets this level of abuse I can only imagine how much Caroline got and that was on top of the way the press treated her.

I never said stay off in a pp case they were picked on about their hair so why show youreself

Thing is @ShatnersWig that’s not possible for some people. I run my own business so I have to use social media, yes it’s not a personal page for me but people very much know it’s me who runs it and can say what they want to me. It’s not as simple as to just stop using it in this day and age.

On a thread where some posters are blaming the media, on line trolls and social media for causing someone to end their life we also have other posters "outing" a completely innocent person and then accusing a victim of DV of being the perpetrator. How has the hypocrisy escaped these posters?

Do Harry Styles and the CF ex boyfriend not deserve the support, kindness and privacy that you are demanding should have been afforded CF?

Why not @GabsAlot? Why should people have to censor themselves to stop people unjustifiably abusing them?

Dont some celebs have to stay on social media as part of their contract? I know theyve said Xfactor contestants have had to have Twitter accounts etc in the past. So cant simply stop using it.

A local teenager took his own life due to online bullying. This is what his Mum said about her attempts to keep him off it-

His peers would be having vile, anonymous conversations about him. We’d remove all access to computers to prevent him seeing it, but he would get up in the night to look at his iPad

He felt he had to know everything to feel armed against it

So it's not as simple as just staying off social media.

Yes @letsgoflyakiteee they certainly do. Some people can pay for someone to take over their social media for them but that doesn’t mean things are going to necessarily be any better. Indeed, the wrong social media rep can make things far worse.

I'm pretty sure the police would have been able to differentiate between wounds inflicted on a person laying down and a person standing or even sitting up and attacking the other person.

Mmm, you'd think......
There was a thread on here recently where the police treated the scene of a murder as that of an accidental drowning, because that's what they were told, and lost vital evidence as a result. Things aren't always what they seem, or what other people tell you.

sparkling the ipad shouldnt have been available to him its not hard to turn the wifi off or hide devices

watcher that sounds like the stuart lubbock case-not really the same thing

I've deleted Instagram, I can't stand the likes of Lauren Goodger and Chloe Ferry posing half naked looking like they fell off a Bratz doll production line.

I don't, but it makes me want to call them out on their vacuousness - which says more about me than them!!

No it's not the same thing, just an illustration that the police don't always have the situation sussed.

WatcherintheRye

Maybe you're right but we will never know now. The evidence won't be heard and now a potential victim is left to deal with the ramifications of that.

Again, I'm not saying that I think people should be celebrating her death or even deciding that she was guilty. I just think people should be more measured in what they are saying about her and mindful of the recent history.

You are all heart GabsAlot. I assume as soon as his parents realised what was happening they did just that. But the damage was already done by months of online bullying prior and he couldn't see a way forward..

no im upset foe the boy they could have done so much more-

she posted the day before-why do that if you want to lay low when you have a court case

Of course @GabsAlot, it’s obviously all the parents fault. Not the people abusing him online.

5he fact is, she had been charged and was awaiting trial.

Isn't it hard to plead self defence when the victim is asleep?

You do not know what happened and have no right to assume she was guilty. Legally you can no longer libel the poor woman, but morally, it is wrong.

The fact is - she had not been found guilty so to refer to her as so is wrong.

Accounts say she had been suffering from severe depression for some time. She was known to have taken drugs such as cocaine as do many with MH conditions to try and help them cope.

How do you know she wasn't in the grip of psychosis IF she hit him with the lamp. She certainly wasn't acting rationally at the time, as reports say she continued to act in an agitated manner when the police arrived some time later. Surely someone thinking rationally would have calmed down enough by that point to avoid arrest?

People showing compassion towards her and pointing out she had not been found guilty has fuck all to do with her biological sex. Some on here appear to be mistaking expressions of compassion with 'letting her off' etc.

A young woman on Twitter says the CPS are at fault. Apparently Caroline was a hard working young woman and it was just a row with her boyfriend.

I asked if she thought physical assault that causes blood loss is a bit more than a row? That allegedly hitting someone with a lamp in the head could be domestic abuse?

She replied "Domestic abuse? Of course not, you're being ridiculously extreme"

Sigh.

ive just read paramedics were called the day before aswell but deemed her to be ok

shame really

Shatner just had the same conversation on fb-this time the reply was it was only a row everyone has those

I despair

She was known to have taken drugs such as cocaine as do many with MH conditions to try and help them cope.

And sometimes, speaking generally and not specifically, taking drugs such as cocaine causes or exacerbates MH conditions.

And sometimes, speaking generally and not specifically, taking drugs such as cocaine causes or exacerbates MH conditions

Yep it absolutely does. A lot of people try to self medicate with recreational drugs and it makes everything 100 times worse

Hundreds of comments on Facebook posts all minimising the alleged assault. All giving various reasons as to why it wasn't her fault.

I don't know if she was guilty. I wasn't there but I'm taking my lead from the reaction of the police and the CPS.

I'm also bearing in mind what reactions I see on here where a woman is an alleged victim - that you always believe the victim, that being found not guilty doesn't mean innocent, that if an alleged perpetrator attempts suicide or succeeds that isn't on anyone else...

What is being written about her ex boyfriend is disgusting. There has been no suggestion from the police that he is anything other than a victim yet people are falling over themselves to defend the person who was charged.