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Can anyone help me decipher this signature?

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LaBelleSauvage123 · 11/02/2020 16:22

I’m doing some family tree research and can’t find this person - it’s definitely a male. What do you think?

Can anyone help me decipher this signature?
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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/02/2020 10:27

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A bit about some of the issues with malaria at Moascar Camp Ismailia in 1924.

wapbapboo · 15/02/2020 10:50

I think its Fland or Hand op.

In the rest of the letter, the F or H are most similar to the first letter. It would make sense the second letter is an L.

There is definitely a dot at the end of the first name which indicates it is either short for something or a title.

The S at the end is a red herring I think. I think they would elaborate the last letter for style and it seems closer to a small d with a an elaborate curve to the end.

Flanders? Handel?

wapbapboo · 15/02/2020 11:14

Rythu...

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 15/02/2020 12:31

Did Ada have sisters?

Could he be Jack’s Uncle by marriage?

Chage · 15/02/2020 12:42

I’m astonished by people saying it looks like Hans, how can that last letter be an ‘s,’ even with a flourish?

To me, it is clearly Ham! I wonder if it’s short for Hamish?

Menaimum · 15/02/2020 12:44

Because the the cross goes from beginning of surname to end I'd try kythunt(s) or kythurt(s)

Ninkanink · 15/02/2020 12:47

Yes I thought it was an s at first glance but it’s nothing like the way he writes his s’s in the rest of the letter. Ham is the obvious thing when you discount a possible s, plus the dot at the end (which I also missed at first glance) indicates an abbreviation. Hamish is a strong possibility especially if there is a Scottish connection. But that wouldn’t be likely with most possible interpretations of the surname.

HeronLanyon · 15/02/2020 13:00

Hang on folks - it’s not Prychard is it. I know that final flourish scuppers it but I suddenly read it very differently.

Chage · 15/02/2020 13:10

Exactly, @Ninkanink. This man is clearly a very precise writer. The full stop after the first name is not a mistake; it's an abbreviation.

I also think there are two crossed ts in the surname. Again, this is a meticulous writer. If he were underlining the word affectionately, the line would be placed a lot closer to the word.

It looks like

Ham. Kyltu??ts or Kyltu??tz

Chage · 15/02/2020 13:11

Or even

Ham. Kyltu??ty

Look at the 'y' in affectionately and compare it with the last letter of the surname. Very similar. Scottish?

HeronLanyon · 15/02/2020 13:18

Or rychart ?

HeronLanyon · 15/02/2020 13:26

Kylhurst (with maddening flourish at end)

Ninkanink · 15/02/2020 13:30

I don’t think it’s a flourish - as previously mentioned, it’s just about identical to the y in affectionately directly above. Unless it actually is a maddening flourish intended to mimick the y above! Sigh, so many variables...

HeronLanyon · 15/02/2020 13:36

I totally agree it looks so like the y as above BUT after torture of non existant names (Icelandic was interesting for a brief moment etc) I actually thought of three recognisable names if we accept that flourishes often do appear at end of sigs (crazy desperate thought).

Prychard Rychard Kylhurst

It was just such a relief to see a possible name that I had to post.

HeronLanyon · 15/02/2020 13:38

Rychart I meant although I feel strongly the line is undermining affect.

Ninkanink · 15/02/2020 13:40

I don’t think an a is realistic in there given how precise the script is - he would have formed an a properly.

Ninkanink · 15/02/2020 13:40

And s isn’t likely either, sadly - look at how precisely he does his s’s.

HeronLanyon · 15/02/2020 13:42

I can see someone pages ago suggested Kylhurst so alpols to them. Think Kylhurst my best guess (known affectionately as ‘Kylhursty’ obviously!)

Ninkanink · 15/02/2020 13:42

Could it be that the line is not to cross t’s at all, but actually a flourish on the signature? Above and below name? No...instinctively I think if that were the case the line at the top would be more fluid, to match the lower one.

BeetrootBasil · 15/02/2020 14:01

Hand. Kythucuts

Under expectations on the left he has done the initials HK.

BeetrootBasil · 15/02/2020 14:22

Kyltruts
Kyltrutz
Kyltruls
Kyltrulz

Kythruts
Kythrutz
Kythrulz
Kythruls

Kneehighinshit · 15/02/2020 14:44

Honestly do not think that there is a t in the surname. It looks like they've underlined the word above as the stroke marks (faint, stronger, faint, stronger) look identical to how he has underlined his name!

The first letter that everyone thinks is crossed actually looks like a b joined up with a u, w or even an undotted i. I think the last letter in the surname is z.

Also can't be Hans as the s at the end doesn't match any other words that end in s.

Ninkanink · 15/02/2020 14:54

I’m not convinced that they are t’s, either.

It’s fascinating. I hope the mystery is solved at some point!

ChristmasArmadillo · 15/02/2020 14:57

Could he be Abraham (Ham) Kyburz?

ChristmasArmadillo · 15/02/2020 14:58

That’s definitely an older style “b” in the surname, I was taught to write them exactly like that.