Coffee shops on a Sunday morning and children

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This will kick off no doubt but hey. Slightly tongue in cheek.

Coffee shops on a Sunday morning should be a haven for adults who seek to get away in piece and quiet from every day life for an hour. That means getting away from your own children , DH etc

So been here 5 mins , had to queue behind a mother with her toddler using the display of pastries like choosing sweets in a sweet shop ! Just pick up a croissant get your latte soya single shot and move along !

Then we have the child , mother and grandmother. The GM doing the exaggerated parenting in this case with the GC much to the horror of her own DD. Thankfully they've gone.

Piece and quiet now reins ....

any day of the week

Why should OP go to a bar to drink coffee in peace? There are no pastries/croissants etc in a bar or pub.

You obviously chose the wrong coffee shop! For us, the park café will be full of children, dogs, runners, cyclists etc. especially as it's family parkrun. The local bar/restaurant will be very much adults with their prosecco brunch (not sure it would be very peaceful, though).

Why should OP go to a bar to drink coffee in peace?

Because the people she wants to avoid won’t be there.

Otherwise she just needs to accept there will be children while she drinks her coffee.

As long as I am not being asked to babysit the kids in a coffee shop then I don't care.

As an adult I do love a wee coffee and cake in piece. But also as an adult, I am more than capable of enjoying that in my own wee bit of piece and quite and just ignore the other customers.

Must be honest though, not a fan of dogs (with the exception of assistance dogs) in places that sell food.

I had to spend too much time in the leisure centre yesterday cos dc have activities. Children.are unavoidable there- but two were whistling. Tuneless, fucking, annoy the teacher, whistling. I had to fight the instinct to tell them to.stop so, so hard, because there are no rules about making noise in a leisure centre

I don’t like noisy kids in coffee shops either - unfortunately I have 4 of them so I have to have them with me at various times.

Tbh it’s not as annoying as couples/families who sit there glued to their phones and don’t even converse with one another. What’s the point? I think I’d rather being chatting with my kids/being noisy and you know, actually ‘doing’ something together.

Urgh, whistling!

I wonder if there are any cafes that have dared to state they are adults only? I suppose not many would as they wouldnt make as much money by excluding families.

Been up since 5 with a toddler- waiting for any shop to open so we can get out!
Seriously you don’t have young children- stay in bed!! YABU

Our local bar/restaurant is just like a café for breakfast, pastries etc. but is full of adults not families, as it does prosecco brunch. If you go somewhere family and dog friendly that's what you'll get. If you go somewhere more adults only, then you won't. You might have to try out different places to find what you want.

Coffee shops on a Sunday morning should be a haven for.....

...whoever damn well wants to be there. If you want peace and quiet, choose a place that people don't take kids, dogs to. If you can't find one then sucks to be you.

I'd love a "people free" coffee shop.

People like you OP are as annoying as parents with children. I take my kids anywhere and don't allow them to misbehave and run around.
Rude and loud people are annoying regardless of their age frankly.

It is nice to go and have meal/coffee/lunch or whatever without kids yours or other peoples I don’t know why people get upset about it.

I try to avoid certain places without kids and if there are kids I’ll ask to be sat far away but I also wouldn’t sit and complain about it they are allowed in places too. I have my own (4 of them) and I work with children so it’s good to enjoy kid free time but more likely to be in a restaurant late in evening or a bar or whatever we also did a kid free holiday for a week in the summer. Sometimes it is nice to see a little toddler picking a cake or having a cup of milk with their mum/gran/dad or whoever I think the attitude that you’ve done it now all small kids are a nuisance says a lot about you tbh one day you’ll have grandchildren will you be a crotchety old bag who can’t be bothered taking them anywhere or doing stuff with them?

With you mine are near adults and I won’t touch under 10s with a shitty stick, get yourself to the pub

Well, you could cultivate a one-a-week cigarette habit/zero nicotine fruit scented vape to bring out of your bag. That usually guarantees the performance parenters establish a twenty five foot exclusion zone around you - as long as you are immune to evil looks and tutting, it's a great way to ensure peace, as they usually drag their screeching offspring back inside to rampage directly over the path the waiter/ess takes with hot drinks and food.

I wonder if there are any cafes that have dared to state they are adults only? I suppose not many would as they wouldnt make as much money by excluding families
We have one that doesn't allow pushchairs due to limited space

When DS was a baby, we used to go to coffee shops and restaurants and all sorts.

Then he hit about 18 months and what was once pleasant and lovely, him sitting there cooing and waving, chewing on bread sticks, hummous and olives, because a fucking nightmare. Trying to keep him sat down or still in any way, trying to keep him quiet and occupied, the kick offs when he couldn't wander about and explore. The stress was horrible.

We stopped inflicting him on others and he's 3.2 now and we've just started venturing out again for food

I suggest Op opens her own coffee shop with:
Glass topped square tables
(Lit) Candles on the tables
Glass / ornaments everywhere
Etc. that way you don’t have to spell it out but it’s Unlikely any family With young kids will step over the threshold!

I don’t like noisy kids in coffee shops either - unfortunately I have 4 of them so I have to have them with me at various times.

But you dont need to go to a coffee shop?

I think that most coffee shop are never really places for children.

We have lost a sense of reality about what to do with children- take them to a coffee shop and stick them on the iPad/DS has become part of daily life- and then we debate why there are so many more children with SEMH and challenges with behaviour and social interaction.

I regularly see adult out with children and they don't talk to their children at all during a meal. I also see adults having dinner together who spend their entire meal on the phone.

Children need time and space to be children. Children shouldn't be mini me chilling out with a babychino on the iPad.

A coffee shop on a Sunday morning?! If be with you if you'd said fine dining on a Saturday night, but seriously? If you can't bring small children to a coffee shop on a Sunday morning where can you bring them?

We go to a local place for brunch with nearly two year old DD every week and won't be stopping.

I do agree about some parents' choices though - yes some children struggle more with behaviour than others. But last week there was a family at the table across the aisle with a similarly aged boy - and they gave him a whistle!

We have one that doesn't allow pushchairs due to limited space

This is what I mean - a “subtle” way of deterring kids!

But you dont need to go to a coffee shop?

No I don’t, and neither do you presumably?

No I don’t, and neither do you presumably?

My comment was in response to your comment below. No-one has to go to a coffee shop- it is a choice- so no need for the unfortunately?

I don’t like noisy kids in coffee shops either - unfortunately I have 4 of them so I have to have them with me at various times.

Back in the day my parents just left us outside with a coke (pub not cafe). YANBU I was in a coffee shop yesterday and two children SCREAMED at each other for about 15 mins (I left). It wasn’t a tantrum, one was shouting “fire fire” and the other shouting “didn’t get me”. Repeatedly. At the top of their voices. SCREAMING. To the parents - if you’re reading this (cafe in Hackney) you are both DICKS.