Who else would really appreciate a polite discussion of gender issues and the concerns of women at the jess Philips webchat on Monday?

[StealthPolarBear]

I posted on the webchat thread:
Since the questions have already been asked I am not allowed to repeat similar but I want on record that self ID, its potential abuse, protection of vulnerable young people from those who promote transition which can sometimes include puberty blockers, the protection of natal women's rights and the importance of teaching biological facts in schools are big concerns to me.

MNHQ have said they don't want any more comments or questions about gender issues on the Web chat thread which I can understand. However what I do want to make clear is the number of people who may share some or all of my concerns. Otherwise any questions about gender issues are of an equal weight to all others and in fact others, which can be repeated in a different form, may seem to gain more weight.

Me!

Absolutely surely a politician is tough enough to cope with robust questions? I'm a lifelong labour voter but I am out of patience with the lot of them

Me.
I refused to vote for my Lib Dem candidate due to their position on this issue. I’d like to support Jess as so far I like what I’ve heard from her but this is a vote decider for me. I would rather spoil my vote than vote for a party that is willing to throw women/girls under the bus.

I'd also like to point out that the webchat went up at 9.10am this morning.

At 12.33 MNHQ posted to say "no more questions on sex/gender identity - after a grand total of 3 questions (unless a load of others were "vanished").

Not really enough time or questions for such a vast topic - which covers gender self ID, women's safety & privacy, AWL in Labour, women's sports, children's safeguarding, medicalisation of children, PSHE in schools, how the police are handling hate-crime-non-crime-incidents, the language used for women's health issues in the NHS etc etc.

I'm very upset and disappointed that my question has been deleted, I never would have thought that Mumsnet would silence trans widows:

Hi Jess.

Thank you for being a long term campaigner for women who have suffered domestic abuse.

How do you reconcile this with your recently stated position on Twitter that the Spousal Escape Clause (often misnamed as the Spousal Veto) in the Gender Recognition Act is "awful"?
This clause exists purely to enable spouses to exit a marriage before the terms of it entirely change.

Would you be willing to discuss this issue further with women who have been in this position (trans widows)?

I actually know very little about this, sorry to hear people in this thread have experience. Would someone mind explaining it to me - I can guess but would rather be told

@Napkintime I'm not sure tbh. Starmer is probably my first choice but I would be very happy to vote for a woman who was GC.

I would like some answers from Jess about this too. I am pretty sure I was deleted on the first webchat she did and I have no chance of asking a question on this one.

@AlunWynsKnee Starmer for me too. I can't believe that a former Director of Public Prosecutions would have anything other than a healthy understanding of the lengths some men would go to to get to women.

What happens when you silence people over a subject that people feel strongly about?

It doesn't go away.

You build a pressure cooker and there are consequences for it.

The thing is about Jess Phillips is her background is in womens rights and domestic abuse. It really is meaning that we can't discuss her experience and what that brings to the table.

The same would be true with Kier Starmer and his experience in human rights.

It just makes the whole thing a farce tbh for that reason.

I repeated my question and asked if Jess had asked for the topic to be moderated- that’s gone too.

@MNHQ you are taking the absolute piss out of us, and I am disgusted with you.

And it won’t go away, you can’t brush this under the carpet. We won’t be nice, we won’t shut up.

Me. Copying my post from another thread:

I would have asked about lobby group influence/pressure on schools to positively affirm children despite that being against the Tavi’s recommendations. This directly impacts my family but there’s no point in my asking as I have done so before in other web chats- just deleted with a slap on the wrist for me by email. It’s not worth the upset it causes me (the slap on the wrist) so I don’t bother with the webchats now.

I want it discussed. Got my question on just before the iron curtain fell - what is your definition of a woman? I really, really want an answer to this.

I want to know why she said it was awful that spouses should be allowed to dissolve a marriage when the other partner has unilaterally changed the original terms of the contract? She needs to read the transwidows threads and hear the other side of the story.

I also want to know how she can close her eyes to the plight of children given puberty blockers? Does she know that over 80% of them would normally be cured by puberty, in many cases maturing into healthy homosexuals? Does she care that many of them will never develop the ability to enjoy sexual pleasure?

I'd like to hear her opinion on women's and girls sports. Is she OK with male bodied people competing with females in rugby and other dangerous contact sports? Does she think it is fair that teenage boys are able to declare themselves girls and compete against girls without having had any treatment at all?

What does she think about separating people by gender instead of sex in prisons and hospitals? Is she OK with telling confused elderly people that the gender of the person delegated to provide their intimate care overrides all concerns the patient may have about being vulnerable at the hands of someone of the opposite sex?

Is she happy at the prospect of a parliament consisting of 50% men and 50% transwomen? Would she consider that fair representation for women?

That's just the start of the questions I'd like her to answer. However, I left labour after they treated Linda Bellos with such shameful treachery, and they haven't done anything to make me regret that decision.

I particularly despise the intelligent MPs who know what is going on and have decided to turn a blind eye in the hope it will boost their careers. The men who do that will almost certainly get away with it, but the women, especially the otherwise feminist women will be scapegoated, and I won't be wasting my sympathy on them.

I would like to see this discussed. I'm sorry the questions are being deleted too, that's very bad.

Napkintime I had hoped that was true but there was a tweet or article dug up with comments that were, at best, ambiguous.

Thank you stealthsquirrelnutkin

Me, I want to see answers to these questions. Thanks for doing this.

Jess Phillips is my MP.
I might write her a letter as one of her constituents and tell her I expect a reply to any questions asked relating to my safety as a woman, and ask what her definition of a woman is.

Jess’ position on these matters is, disappointingly, bullshit!

Everything's off limits because of regulatory and policy capture by extreme queer theorists.

Can't ask about limits on free speech (cos genderists are part - note, not all - of that problem so the whole thing is disallowed/counts as a question about genderism).

Can't ask about the degrading of safeguarding in schools (cos genderists are part - note, not all - of that problem so the whole thing is disallowed/counts as a question about genderism).

Can't ask about policy laundering/regulatory capture (cos genderists are part - note, not all - of that problem so the whole thing is disallowed/counts as a question about genderism).

Can't ask about compulsory RSE (cos genderists are part - note, not all - of that problem so the whole thing is disallowed/counts as a question about genderism).

And on, and on, and Ariston. And that's besides the bloody basics of what a woman is.

Me!

Presume MNHQ don’t want to scare away fragile politicians.

I would like to see it discussed. I think Tinsel's question in particular should be reinstated.