Harry stepping down as a royal family member

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Just read this on their instagram page.
They plan on becoming private citizens

I really don’t think The Sun care too much about a single Google hit one way or another... tribalism is so wearing @AngeloMysterioso.

I am astonished that @BertrandRussell hasn’t popped up.

I actually feel really sorry for Harry. He’s been open about mental health and has now alienated himself from his friends and family. This will never die down, Meg will be the next Oprah or face of Chanel/hugebrand, they’ll be at celeb parties and constantly in the news.

They’ll have to give up the nonsense about saving the planet too if they’re now planning to fly between two countries regularly.

It’s all so odd.

It was on Thursday night claimed that Archie had remained in Canada while the Duke and Duchess flew back to London under the care of Jessica Mulroney, the Duchess's close friend. As per the DT

About the lack of ring. Welcome to the 21st century. Married women deliriously in love with their husbands do walk around without their rings sometimes! Big stones (serious bling) does tend to do a number on stockings especially the sheer sort. A number of people myself included can attest to taking rings off to dorn hosiery!

To address those who feel precious about her influencing to abandon his family like she did hers. How many of you meannies actually keep extremely toxic people on your lives for the sake of appeasing strangers? For the sheer fear of judgment of abandoning those people? Toxic people like some on heat need to be shown the door. There's no room for negativity in a young marriage. That said, Harry is his own man. Surely you don't expect your in-laws and strangers to blame you for decisions that your husband takes?

The rest of it all is sheer gossip! Nice and all of you aren't the sub of it. Just stop it!
Their titles aren't dependent on their fulfilment of duties, other royals do carry titles with no major roles. Honestly I after taking this bold step I'm sure they don't give a crap about the titles I mean if you don't know who they are, you have been living under a rock. Leave these people alone and quietly lament the appropriately £1 per year of your money that funds the Firm. That doesn't even buy a cup of tea nowadays so maybe try sipping on a bottle of water while you reflect on your hard earned £££

Maybe follow your own advice @FairyLightsAreMyCrack and step away if you are finding these threads difficult to read. On a public forum people are entitled to express their opinion on top news stories. Nobody is forcing you to read them.

She wasn't wearing a ring because that picture was from before she was married.

Oh wait, I was looking at the wrong photo

So they left Archie in Canada with Jessica Mulrooney. Hmm interestingly enough the primary legal custody of any royal children is technically vested in the monarch as per some very archaic legislation from 1717.

@Fraggot maybe they will get their own boat to travel between the two countries and keep being carbon conscious. They might start a new trend - why go by plane when one can by their own boat ?

Little tip maybe - the website design co/PR firm they used lists Diane Von Furstenberg as a client. Her bffs are Oprah and David Geffen, so I think this is where H&M will be heading next and think this is why they made this move - they have an alternative “royal family” to join

Yeah Zara’s a true RF role model, speeding at driving ban (as per her mother).

Yet Meghan gets slated for opening a car door...

The engagement interiview was very fulsome about how 'amazing' and helpful every member of Harry's family had been. Sadly no-one seems to have told her that with great privilege comes great expectations of service and duty.

@FairyLightsAreMyCrack I think it's funny when people make assumptions about how H and M think and feel. However I reserve the right to have an opinion about the situation because an awful lot of public money has been and will be spent on those two. I live not far from Windsor so it was out of my local police budget that the £20 m was spent on security for their wedding while lollipop ladies were being laid off (not the same budget I know). The cost of protecting those two on two separate continents is massive and I think it's beyond arrogance to expect it.

Didn’t the women go to Wimbledon together? I may have got that wrong though

They did. There were also multiple photos of them at a polo match together with their children after Archie was born. All chatty and smiley.

I also find it mindboggling when people comment on stranger's personalities like they are privvy to their innermost thoughts.
Fucking bizarre.

Rosehipbubbles Peter Phillips - the Queens eldest grandchild and Anne's elder child - works completely independently and has no title. He does not no formal royal duties and has always worked (though no doubt he has some lovely RF trust funds/income). I think he's 15th in line to the throne or something like that.

Titles did not run down the female line till they change of the law that benefits the Cambridge family's succession. Anne refused titles for her children anyway as she wanted a more normal life for them. She has that luxury as a female and not being in the Wales's succession. Peter and Summer still make it onto Buck House balcony and Ascot without any fuss and they haven't courted the media so no one really observes them. Zara is similar but has been a bit more in the limelight because of her riding (and not helped by her driving and the her husbands antics!).

So there is a different model within the RF its just that Peter's life was going that way from the start - he was never in the spotlight in the same way as Harry has always been. Given how fragile he is, Harry would have benefited from just having a nice Army job all his life -he's not the brains of the brothers and has struggled with the role of the 'spare' to the heir, cameras etc. William has always born the burden of responsibility more dutifully - he has that sometimes sad expression his father had. And he married a young and reticent woman who had many years to prepare for her dutiful backseat - never speak, never have an opinion, never step out of line.

Other than the timing being off given the Andrew scandal, I'm not sure what the issue is. Harry said a few years ago he'd thought about opting out of his position, and when a reporter pointed out after Charlotte's birth that this pushed him further down the line of succession, he replied with a gleeful yes and a thumbs up.

If the Queen was kept in the dark then that's awfully disrespectful but otherwise, let them crack on. The monarchy Charles envisaged is now taking shape. When Charles accedes to the throne, the Duchy of Cornwall will pass to William and I presume he can choose to bankroll his brother or not. By then if predictions are correct Harry and Meghan will be very wealthy so it won't matter if he doesn't.

If Harry's ambition had always been to fulfil the duties he was born into, he'd have chosen a different spouse.

From reading reports, it sounds like the aides have had a part in this by blocking Harry"a meeting with the Queen. I also read that H&M characterised requests by aides to write down their proposals. Sounds like they know that the Queens aides have been leaking stories to the press and briefing against them.

characterised read refused.

What perplexes me is that, Harry who was said to be close to his grandparents, did not bring his son home to meet Prince Phillip, this may have been the last time he could have met him with his age and ailing health.

Would be quite funny if they lost their HRH titles after trademarking so much under the brand Sussex Royal

If I was a betting person I put 50p on Meghan not coming back to the UK unless essential for business.
I reckon she has had enough of RF and the protocols.

interestingly enough the primary legal custody of any royal children is technically vested in the monarch

I think that becomes very muddled when the child also has American nationality, as Archie will, he will be dual nationality, and is currently in America, where he is legally entitled to reside with his mother. It could be a hell of a legal battle to get him back to the uk, and I doubt anyone has the appetite for that, not least the queen.

I think Harry would do anything rather than divorce and lose daily access to his child. I suspect that having a happy family life is the only thing he cares about. This means Meghan has a lot of control in the relationship.
She has seen her own mother walk away and leave her to be brought up by her father. She comes from a fractured family . She’s an only child. Her only interest is self promotion I feel. I think she loves Harry for now, but can’t see this marriage lasting. Neither can I see Harry being happy living a celebrity lifestyle doing talk shows and selling trademarked crap. He will be entirely within her circle in Canada , isolated from his family and his own friends.