Harry stepping down as a royal family member

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Just read this on their instagram page.
They plan on becoming private citizens

Why do they keep getting it so wrong? Perhaps because they refuse to listen to advice?

YES! YES! Get Enfield on the blower, quick

Brenda reportedly put in the picture a while back but asked them to run detailed plans past Charlie which they've ignored to press the red button. Really can't see where that ties in with the stated aim of 'supporting' her.

Pair of deluded fantasists who appear to share Uncle Andy's belief that saying something makes it so.

Saying it will be a decision for Scotland Yard who will not be able to justify having protection officers sent overseas, or backwards and forwards, for a couple who aren't even performing royal duties. That you can't send individuals with families etc overseas for months at a time and the cost won't be acceptable.

Leaving Queens Grandson/King's Son on the loose as a massive threat to UK Security should he be kidnapped by terrorists, isn't going to happen either and Harry knows it. He even had close protection when he was "fighting" in Afghan.

I think marrying Meghan enabled him to gain a better understanding of other options available to them

I suspect Meghan's always had an eye on the opportunities the connection would bring her, but am less certain just how deep Harry's "understanding" of them is

Despite the carefully honed "man of the people" image he is after all a Windsor, and unlikely to find the sort of crawling he's used to among the glitterati. As suggested before, once the ink's dry on future contracts I suspect his usefulness will quickly reach its sell by date and he'll be cast aside

Or we could have H&M from The Windsors - I'm sure they'll be a fraction of the price grin
Not just H &M. Hugh Skinner is a million times funnier than the real Wills!

Apparently Madame Tussauds have already removed Harry and Meghan from their display with the Queen and Price Philip

Maybe her Maj has insisted it be re-sited in the Chamber of Horrors?

Leaving Queens Grandson/King's Son on the loose as a massive threat to UK Security should he be kidnapped by terrorists, isn't going to happen either and Harry knows it.

True. Did they have police protection officers in Canada with them the whole 6 weeks, or private security, does anybody know?

I imagine they would have done, Glitch.

If they become quite cast out I don't know how much of a security risk they'd still be. Do celebs like Clooney have security?

Obvs not paid for ones but I mean private one

I see no reason why they should get more publicly-funded protection than other of the Queens's grandchildren Beatrice, Eugénie, Zara or Peter Phillips or the Wessex children. If they want more then they pay for it themselves.

Most A List celebs such as Clooney have some level of security, but somebody like Clooney isn't the same value for somebody like Islamic State

Clooney is not a symbol of America in the same way

"United Kingdom you'll do X and Y or have some live footage of your Prince getting executed"

I should think the Clooneys do. The Beckhams certainly have. However, celebs pay for their security themselves not curtesy of JAM taxpayers with no option to "step back" from paying that.

But if their plan to set up a kind of alternative court doesn't come off and they fall into a royals-lite/celeb scenario, I wonder whether they would still be considered such a target. Dunno, anyway, sorry, it's a bit distasteful to think about. I don't want them to come to harm.

I think their move is understandable but clunky. Instead of it being positive, it just seems like they're in a bad space. I also think they were done for once they said they were suing the press, to be honest.

For H and M to press such a nuclear button there has to be a back story and a reaction to how they have been treated within the RF . I cannot believe that Harry would treat his grandmother with such disdain and disrespect without good reason . I don’t think Meghan is the main influencer here ,more likely Harrys petulance. My money would be a massive row with W and K .

The media have been nothing but appalling and cruel to Harry and Meghan - all through the pregnancy last year. I am all for them scrapping ties to the Royal charade and making his own dignified way in the world. What a breath of fresh air and integrity!

I think they need to pay for their own security. If they no longer work for the firm then they aren’t entitled to the benefits IMO.

Are they going to make their financial independence from this?

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They already asked to set up their own court a couple years ago. They wanted to split from Buckingham palace and set up their own separate court, basically they wanted their own royal house which could act as it saw fit and not have to follow the palace. We'd have had a sort of second royal family if they had their way. They were told no, they couldn't have their own court and operate outside of buckingham palace rule. Instead they were allowed to open "Sussex Royal" under the umbrella of buckingham palace, and function like every other strand of the monarchy (like the Cambridgeshire and wessexes etc). They were getting more free reign though, but it wasnt what they wanted so now they're getting what they want by going public. Keeping the titles, the royal connections and the funding from Charles, but doing their own thing entirely and even now earning money by charging for appearances they would have made as part of their senior royal role.

What a breath of fresh air and integrity!

Lol.

and even now earning money by charging for appearances they would have made as part of their senior royal role. Are they? I haven't heard that before.

At the moment, when they do speaking engagements, they do them because they are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and it is part of their role. But not when they do speaking engagements, they will be paid like every other after dinner speaker. So "sussex royal" incorporated (or however they structure themselves) will be hired to speak or appear. They will still get all the "oh, it's the Duke and dutchess supporting X, Y, Z" but they will actually be getting paid hefty sums to do it.

Meghan can also go back to getting clothes and jewellery for free. She wasnt mega famous, but she did get the swag from being an actress; having free clothes and jewellery to promote the maker. As a royal, she isn't allowed to wear anything which has been gifted. They need to buy their stuff. She can now go back to wearing clothes as an advertisement, so get them for free or be paid to wear them.

@QueenMargot

They hired her old management team and PR team a long time ago, in preparation for going solo. The job of those people is to manage their careers, appearances, everything... and negotiate the payments. They're looking to take advantage of business opportunities and earn money from who they are: you think they wont charge for appearances?

They will still do a small number of royal engagements, but charging for appearances is really quite an obvious income stream and one which their PR and management firm wont be ignoring.

No, I realise they will charge for appearances, but you said they already do and even now earning money by charging for appearances they would have made as part of their senior royal role. That was what surprised me.

@QueenMargot
Yeah, my typing was really not very clear. I meant it like "they can now even do this" not "they will and are doing this right now".

It's just one of those things we can probably be pretty sure they will be doing. I'm guessing we will also get a look of products with "approved by Sussex Royal" hitting the shelves. She did have a lifestyle blog before she married in.