What did William do to her? A Berry Christmas

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56 min 25 sec ... woah. That's a 'I fucking hate you, don't ever touch me again shrug' if ever I seen one!

Poor Catherine, she seems lovely 😢

They've been noticeably demonstrative in public in the past though - hugging at the Olympics, Kate stroking his thigh at Eugenie's wedding.

That's just twice in an 8 year marriage, which really isn't much. I'd say they're pretty undemonstrative in public as a rule, which is how it should be for a couple who are supposed to be at work, or at least what counts for work for a 'royal'.

They are undemonstrative, as they should be, when on duty. If only others could follow that example!

I can't believe people think William had an affair, what a horrible rumour. Kate wouldn't be such a happy looking wife and mother if he had. Why do some enjoy thinking the worst of people and scandal mongering?

The 'shrug' was absolutely nothing, she just shifted and actually looked at him to talk, all quite harmonious.

William's alleged affair supposedly took place a few years ago, when Charlotte was a baby. So it wouldn't have much impact on Kate's behaviour these days. Not to mention that she's a pro and knows that keeping up appearances in public is everything when you're a 'royal'.

I'm not saying William did have an affair - none of us really has a clue and probably never will - but I wouldn't rule it out just because Kate puts on a good show in public. He certainly wouldn't be the first man in his family to feel himself entitled to a bit on the side, even if we'd like to think this generation of royals is a bit more 'modern'.

Maybe IcedPurple but it is still a nasty rumour and not something any of us should be a party to.

So we should only talk about public - and publically funded - figures in a pleasant way? When you enjoy astonishing privilege just because of the family you were born or married into, your family life is always going to be the subject of speculation, and some of it might be 'nasty'. The rumours about Charles and Di were dismissed as 'nasty' back in the day too. I doubt anything similar is happening with Kate and Wills, but like I say, who really knows what goes on behind palace doors?

So we should only talk about public - and publically funded - figures in a pleasant way?

What an odd way to take it. Perhaps it's better not to help spread or perpetuate nasty rumours about anyone

I just watched the clip - talk about making something out of absolutely nothing OP.

I enjoyed the programme as a whole and thought Wills and Kate both came across really well. Kate seemed very nervous but lovely.

What an odd way to take it. Perhaps it's better not to help spread or perpetuate nasty rumours about anyone

Even if the 'nasty rumours' turn out to be true?

Are we alllowed to spread un-nasty rumours, even if they're entirely false?

Reading too much into it imo. I also do t believe William had an affair, he saw what it did to his mum and I don’t believe he would go down that road in his own marriage

Even if the 'nasty rumours' turn out to be true?

Then they aren't a rumour are they?

But you're being deliberately dim for effect. Stop spreading rumours. It's quite straightforward.

Then they aren't a rumour are they

Eh?

I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word 'rumour'. Some of them prove to be false. Others prove to be true. Other times we never find out. As I said above, the Charles and Di rumours were dismissed as 'nasty' by finger waggers like yourself but later turned out to be quite true.

Stop spreading rumours. It's quite straightforward.

Actually, I don't believe I am spreading any rumours here, but if I was, I most certainly wouldn't require your permission to do so, and neither would anyone else. It's quite straightforward.

@IcedPurple

Unless you know Will and Kate personally and therefore know for a fact that he had an affair then you are spreading rumours. You are spreading something without knowing if it is true or not.

How would you like it for a bunch of strange people sat and started speculating and coming up with rumours about your relationship based on one tiny interaction between you and your other half?

I only watched bits of it but she came across as actually quite nice and normal. Not someone who could one day be queen.

It did look very awkward when he touched her though

They may be public figures but their relationships are not, everyone deserves a modicum of privacy and in this case their relationship is not a soap opera or daily mail fodder as even royal people get upset at nasty gossip and rumours.

Unless you know Will and Kate personally and therefore know for a fact that he had an affair then you are spreading rumours. You are spreading something without knowing if it is true or not.

I don't think you've actually read any of my posts. I have said at least once, quite explicitly, that I haven't got the slightest clue if any of the rumours about Wills are true or not.

How would you like it for a bunch of strange people sat and started speculating and coming up with rumours about your relationship based on one tiny interaction between you and your other half?

If those 'strange people' were subsisdising and facilitating my extraordinarily privileged lifestyle, which I had come into not through any achievements of my own but simply as an accident of birth, and if I was more than happy to encourage those same 'strange people' to take an interest in my life when it suited me, then I'd accept it as part and parcel of my 'job'.

They may be public figures but their relationships are not

Well they did invite us all to the wedding.

I think the point is that some people seem to be enjoying the prospect of Wiliam cheating. I would go so far as to say there is a bit of a tone of gloating. It's deeply unpleasant. It's a completely unsubstantiated rumour. That is it.