Since when has a size 12 been XXL?

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Saw a nice dress in H&M and they deem a size 12 to be an XXL. What type of message is this sending out to young girls. I don't normally worry as I know sizes come up different in lots of shops but surely this is crazy!

A size 12 in H&M is an M not XXL...

I think That's an error

US size 12 which would be a UK 16?
Still not XXL though.

Lol, in the far off distant 90s I was a modern size 12 and an XXL in sample sizes. That was a shock to discover!

But I think in this case it's probably just a mistake.

A size 16 (US size 12) is an XXL in some shops (including Mango / H&M). A UK size 12 is a medium.

How did you deduce that?
Normally they just put a number eg 8 or 14, or S or XL.
They don't normally put both.

Many places are doing this now, I recently bought a size twelve biker jacket, it was tiny, more like a ten, and it was labelled xxl also. I'm also bemused by it.

Good God. It’s small wonder we have a bloody epidemic of eating disorders.

Since cycling gear....

H&M sizing is utterly ridiculous anyway. I'm a size 8/10 and the last time I shopped in there, I took loads of sizes in with me, knowing how poor their sizing is.

One pair of size 8 shorts were huge on me, a size 12 pair of jeans wouldn't go over my knees. I gave up in the end.

Oh yes, cycling gear. Luckily I'm made of stern stuff so I wasn't emotionally scarred by the XL mountain bike shorts that were too small, I'm a size 14.

Sizing is too random to make any sense of, I have other cycling shorts from the same brand. The mediums fit me but a slightly different style in a large are too small. Both pairs were bigger than the XL pair that had to go back.

I bought a size 12 top the other day. The other size on the label was XL. Imma size 12 for Christ sake. That is not huge. No idea when this kind of sizing came in. But it is awful and made me feel terrible. I know I’m a few sizes bigger than I should be. But I had no idea a 12 was an XL

I was looking at a website for some workout leggings. Size 10-12 UK size was deemed to be large.

Well if it’s made in China, Chinese people might very well think a size 12 is XXL.
Sizing is bonkers, never ever consistent even with the same brand, different styles different sizes.

That can't be right... I'm in the US but H&M has XXL as a US 20 (UK 24) and it looks the same on the UK site. UK 12 is a medium from memory.

Have you got a link to the dress?

there is not much consistency to H&M sizing tbh, bt in general sizing has got worse since the influx of online shopping from asian countries.

Oh give it a rest. Due to vanity sizing H&M is the last place on the high street that I can buy clothes that fit me.

Probably from China. Size 12 is XXL there

Error.

I bought a walking dead T shirt online that is an xxl and I'm a 12 .

I am a size 12/14. In H & M I fit in the 8s and 10s. Crazy sizing.

I am a size 12/14. In H & M I fit in the 8s and 10s. Crazy sizing.

Apple for double post

In Zara a 12 is a Large. I confirmed it with a SA as I was asking for a 14.

"Sorry, we only do XL in limited items"
"Wait, you mean a 12 is a Large?!"
"Yeah"

Sounds like the Chinese sizing.

If you buy a Chinese made size 10 you need arms with no flesh to get the sleeves on, and an XXL is still small.