Prince Andrew Part 2

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Here is another thread to discuss the PA interview and its repercussions.

I think you are right Curly that the shit will hit once Charles is back. I’d be quite interested to know what William makes of it all as well.

Hmm Christmas - I’d love to be a fly on the wall. Makes complete sense why H&M decided against the whole thing.

I've no particular love for the Yorks but the stories about Beatrice putting Andrew up to the interview smack of throwing her under a bus. The tabloids love having a woman to blame and if she's turned into the scapegoat then he's an even more reprehensible character than I first thought.

I also noticed the Sun and Mail are reporting that Meghan was "troubled" by the interview. The implication was that women shouldn't speak out about such things, thus allowing them to combine condemning Andrew with their favourite habit of attacking her!

The DM is now reporting that William “is not a huge fan” of PA and was involved in the discussions about retiring him. What a mess.

Makes complete sense why H&M decided against the whole thing.

I sincerely doubt that's why they're not going.

The whole York family should be put out to grass all seem entitled and PA is just a Nonce

The article about Meghan being "troubled" was pure puff, a friend of a source near to the Sussex team kind of thing. Utterly pointless.

Oh I know @Myimaginarycathasfleas, I wasn't suggesting it was true. Just that it was a convenient way to get their readers riled up about her.

I think the best comment on the whole affair was the observation on Mock The Week that it was good to see there's a Wetherspoons inside Buck House.

Did I suggest the photo printed in the press might have been cropped ?

Oh, yes. I did.

The visible RF will end up being HM, Charles, Camilla and the Cambridges. I don’t even know how much Harry & Meghan will figure.
They want to launch their Sussex brand in 2020 and I think they will be US based.

The Sussexes will figure for as long as Charles is king and until the Cambridge children are of age. They've both got commitments to their charities in the U.K and to the Commonwealth so I think talk of a US move is a tad premature.

“The article about Meghan being "troubled" was pure puff, a friend of a source near to the Sussex team kind of thing. Utterly pointless.“
Of course it was. But just setting up another “let’s bash Meghan” opportunity.

Interesting @JemimaTab though it's all speculation at this point! There's no new news about Andrew but there are still papers to sell.

I just don’t get why he did the interview? What on Earth was he thinking? And he was mad enough to think it had gone well!! It’s made it all so much worse for him & the RF.

I just don’t get why he did the interview?

Maybe there are people he's in hock to ?

At the very least Beatrice convinced her dad to give a dishonest interview and supported him in his white washing attempt so she is just as bad as him.
I don't know. It's perfectly plausible that she, like Fergie and the PA are being served up as sacrificial offerings to protect PA. But even if she did persuade him to do the interview, she loves her father and probably doesnt want to believe he associated with a child abuser and had sex with a girl the same age as she was. It's quite plausibly that she didn't see the arrogant bumbling fool that we all do and thought if only he could explain himself it would all go away. The scales must be falling from her eyes just fairly fast!

"Initially, Beatrice was sceptical that a television interview, which would inevitably delve into her father's private life, was such a good idea.

'She was asking lots of pertinent questions and had her doubts.
'But by the end of the meeting she was convinced by the Newsnight team and Amanda Thirsk that they had no choice – that it was the only way to put all the rumours behind them."

well ,if we're going to believe stuff in the DM we might as well take on board the above extract .

Beatrice was sceptical and had her doubts 'But by the end of the meeting she was convinced by the Newsnight team and Amanda Thirsk that they had no choice

The comments under the "William not a fan of Andrew" article are all very supportive of William.

Very different comments under the "Meghan troubled by Andrew interview" article.

But they are not a cost on the tax payer. They are private people, albeit high profile but they don't take any money from us so I'm happy for them to get on with it

Peter and Zara milk their royal connections so hard it's surprising their hands don't fall off.

Do you honestly think Joe Peasant would or could have scored a £100K a year non executive directorship from a Chinese businessman however talented he was at not falling off a horse? A Chinese businessman who incidentally and back on track for this thread had Fergie on a £72K retainer.

Have you forgotten Peter Phillips trousering £750K (far more than the event raised) for arranging the Patron's lunch in an uncontested tender?

... if there could ever be such a thing as an official public inquiry into the RF’s finances (including all the kickbacks and freebies that they seem to benefit from)

No chance - either the Queen or Charles would squash such an idea instantly, and even if it did happen the kind of accountants they can afford would quite easily hide any unpleasantness

Interesting about the suggestions of the girls taking over Andrew's patronages. Can't you just see the twitchy response: "Oooo let papa help you with that; after all I know the contacts ..."

As for what William and Kate, Harry and Meghan think of it all, if they've got any sense they'll totally avoid anyone involved and be seen to be doing it

I really admire Princess Anne
Yes at least she had the good sense to do her grifting more discreetly

I genuinely can’t understand why anyone would admire any member of the royal family- I really can’t.

Good grief, CathyorClaire, I'd missed Zara's Hong Kong connection (was in Texas when it broke). So if the article's anything like accurate it seems she's lying too

"When the Mail first approached Mrs Tindall over the claims earlier this year a lawyer acting on her behalf said it was 'wholly untrue' she was a non-executive director of Dr Hon's Global Group"

"It was only when the Mail provided documentary evidence of the £100,000-a-year contract between her and Dr Hon's firm that they accepted that she had indeed held that role"

Me neither @BertrandRussell I mean, let's be real - they are largely a bunch of unremarkable scroungers. And most of them, despite the best education money could buy could barely manage to scrape 2 A levels.

It's a tad disingenuous to try and distinguish where the Royals get their money from, if not totally irrelevant.

It's where they got it from, which is more the issue. Basically accrued over the centuries at sword, ax and gunpoint, with a dangle on a rope or a one-way overseas trip for those that might have suggested otherwise. And we are now expected to just sit back, and say "Good on you .." ? Fuck that.

If these last-of-their-generation robbers and tyrants don't want too much scrutiny, then they can give back all that land - and the wealth it's generated - and sign on to retrain and be treated as any other citizen. If the want to insist on rubbing in centuries of privilege and separation then they can bloody well get with the programme.

If we can chase offenders back decades - over half a century in some cases - then there is plenty of scope for remembering exactly how the Royal Family acquired it's wealth. And it wasn't putting pennies in a jar and waiting for a thunderball.

I admire Zara for her equestrian stuff. Admittedly I know nothing about the field but there’s got to be some work and talent to get to the Olympics etc.