Prince Andrew

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I haven’t watched the interview, but heard reports of the content. I just find it unbelievable he claims he can’t remember meeting a woman he had his arm around! Despicable. Does anyone believe him?

The BBC is part of the establishment ultimately. It is by no means impartial. There are people who waste their valuble time pointing out deliberate errors, editing and fact dropping from their 'journalism' and coverage on a regular basis. Frankly some of time they just serve as a mouth piece for the government and it's been worse in recent years with even average people saying they have to turn to either unofficial news sources or different networks to get the news and decent interviewing of politicians. I know a lot of people who are watching Australian networks for their world news (although I'm at that also)

I was amazed he's done this . There must be a reason why he agreed.
Giving the interview adds legitimacy and it certainly didn't close the matter.
It's damage limitation or a deal to stop the bbc reporting more.

Well, yes, the fact that he “can’t recall” doing whatever it was he was doing is neither here nor there really.

He probably doesn’t remember because he is a creep who views women as property. He probably slept with loads of women
However, I believe that he slept with the lady involved
He is a disgusting , spoiled idiot

I believe he doesn't remember Virginia - because he has groped/had sex with so many young women and girls he can't remember them as individuals.

As for he stayed with Epstein as 1) it was convenient and 2) he was too honorable - has the man never heard of hotels? And what is honorable about staying in touch with a convicted a paedophile?

Not really, I am not in possession of any of the facts and neither are you

Exactly. Which means he may be a sex abuser. And he may be being protected due to his postion. He may not. The very fact that he might be, should be enough to get every decent person concerned. Because it's horrifying.

I can see why he would be protected though, the scandal if the queens son was found guilty of abusing under age girls is huge.

The fact he will not submit to interviews by either the French or American authorities, but chooses to do a pr exercise with the bbc, proclaiming his innocence to me is deeply concerning.

If the man has nothing to hide he should have dealt with the authorities immediately.

If this was my husband, proclaiming his innocence. Whilst hiding from police and fbi, I'd be very worried indeed.

And as said, rumour has it it's about to break he was close friends with a second very well known American paedophile.. And at some point the fact he is supposedly wanted by French authorities for questioning, will also come out at some point, you can't media ban the world.

So no, none of us know, he may be innocent, he may not be, but the least he should do is fly to the states, fly to France, and answer the questions required. Because if he was innocent I strongly believe he would.

The deal around his house sale was as dodgy as fuck. He has been hanging round with seedy people for years. Its about time his teflon coating was scratched off.

Agree.

Get rid of the lot of them!

Has anyone seen the interview? Does he address why he refuses to be interviewed by French or American authorities?

He's 'too big to fail'

(assuming for MN purposes that the allegations are true) I'd put money on him remembering her very well. Trafficked girls in her situation don't just perform run of the mill sex, they're taught to cator for desires people don't easily get met elsewhere and if young girls are your special treat that also gives you an ego boost I believe you will take a special note to remember.

Hardly bring you back for more if it wasn't memorable.

The excerpts trailed by the BBC don’t include questions about his co-operation or otherwise.

OP, regarding why Virginia was trafficked - I believe she has said that she was working at (Trump’s) Mar-a-Lago aged about 15 when she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell as a “masseuse” - promised training and an education and an opportunity to travel the world.

This will never be resolved.
He's too powerful.
And look at the power backing him...……………….
Forget it.
No justice.

Yes, I agree, get rid of the lot of them.

I believe Virginia Roberts.

The arrogance of this man, the drivel about it's unbecoming of a member of the royal family. They've pretty much all done "unbecoming" things so it really makes you question why we have them. The fact that Andrew thinks he can give this interview and we'll all shut up now and believe him is extraordinary and shows the extent of the arrogance of this man. The queen has no judgement either - or any control over her kids. People applaud her for never having done a step wrong but she's never really done anything but keep a low key, gone on the engagements, given the speeches, it's not that bloody hard to have no scandal attached to you.

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I think that you are thinking of Andrew etc. as "normal" people.
These types are still very much of the old guard where old powerful families, (due to money, position, power or name) can do what they like.

There are many many stories of people being abused, raped etc. and then thrown out with no repercussions due to the families position in society.

I do believe that Andrew doesn't remember her for this reason, she was just something (In his eyes) there for his entertainment.

As an additional point to this, there are also many 'new money' families that get away with this as well.

Trafficked girls in her situation don't just perform run of the mill sex

She wasn't trafficked as such, and to be fair, she said it was fairly run of the mill. She said that she was told on leaving some venue she had to do the same for Andrew as she did for Epstein by maxwell. She said they had a bath together, and he was sucking her toes or kissing her feet, and then they had sex. From what she has revealed it seems vanilla. More about her age, than the type of sex.

I don't know about the other women who have supposedly come forward though with the same allegations.

One of his bodyguards being interviewed was reported to have said that Andrew didn't do drugs, he didn't do booze, he didn't smoke, his only vice was sex. He said he does sex. And he does it a lot.🤷‍♀️

It's our respinsibility to hold those who allegedly represent us, to the highest standards. If you weren't comfortable leaving an underage girl in their company for example, then they have no business being paid by us for their so called duties.
He has lived off the fat of the land (and the rest of them) and now he ought to be properly questioned, not fudge about on the nations tv service (paid for by us) and call it a storm in a tea cup. After which we are supposed to accept it as the absolute truth.
None of us would be extended such privilege. We would be questioned properly, not on our own terms.

Even if we're to believe the I don't recall her Clinton-esque-bullshit, which I don't because he wasn't 17. He was older and you don't forget from 25 years ago, especially with photos to jog your memory. The arrogance of saying I'm too honourable to tell my good acquaintance "no thanks I won't stay at your home because your a sex offender...". Someone PR'd up to the eye balls their entire life would know the ramifications of dirty company- unless of course they were comfortable with them being protected.

" The queen has no judgement either - or any control over her kids."

Oh goodness I agree!

All brought up in their privileged, entitled world!

The queen might not have any control over her kids, but I'm sure like any mother she has judgement, she also has a huge amount of power. The queen is not simoly a figure head.

As what's being reported by the French is her authority was sought to question Andrew and she said no, and instructed the british government to block it, which they have apparently done.

Again, none of us know if that's true or not.

Because they protected him for this long they are in a sense backed into a corner and they have to go on protecting him
Backed into a corner is not a good position to be in

I think he has been very ill-advised to do this interview (ditto Harry/Meghan/Charles/Diana etc) but I too wonder if it's a pay-off and part of a deal to get the press to lay off worse things.

In my opinion, the thing that "gives him away" is the slight pause he gives before saying "I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady. None whatsoever." He's not actually saying "I didn't do it," just that "I don't remember doing it." Different things.

What also gives him away is the preposterousness of denying it all in the face of photographic evidence, if I couldn't remember doing something and there was a photograph of me doing it then seeing the photo would trigger my memory!

Although we've only so far been shown clips, in all those clips he is shown up as disingenuous to put it mildly. Who knows what will be further revealed (or not quite denied) tonight.
'I don't remember' isn't a denial or a defence.
'Not becoming for amember of the royal family' - as a PP said - it's not 'becoming' for anyone of any family. he talks as if he has breached a minor point of royal etiquette.
'Too honourable' - what does this even mean? - How is it honourable to stay in the house of a convicted paedophile ? How hard is it to say 'no thanks, I'm not keen on paedos. I'll book a hotel'

And yet the press is wetting it's collective knickers over the Duchess of Sussex wanting to spend Christmas away from the Royal Family. Good for her for keeping her child away from Good Old Uncle Perv. How long is the Queen going to keep protecting this disgusting arrogant man?

It is very poor strategy to do the interview. He should have kept quiet.

Here we are 6 pages into a MN discussion of it. If he'd kept his head down, eventually it would have gone away ...