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Insta-Mum Drama

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rosybell · 06/11/2019 17:30

Is there already a thread about the instamum dramas involving MoD today?

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PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 12/11/2019 17:37

Also, @RoseAdagio what do you think of MOD saying those things about CB online and then having her on her podcast to discuss black women giving birth and the statistic about black women dying in childbirth?

I think that's pretty fucking despicable to be honest.

BlackMUMba · 12/11/2019 17:51

@PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind this is based on what I've read, I agreed with BanKittenheels about the feminism message. I thought it was settled based on that.

Please, I don't want a pile on. I deviated slightly from the actual topic as someone brought up what CH said about CB (about being a pimp etc), comparing that to the racist comments CH made.

turnitdownplease · 12/11/2019 17:53

I think @RoseAdagio makes a good point. Also so what if she didn't particularly like CB and then went on to record a podcast in a work context. This is hardly unusual in a journalistic or content creation setting. I'm not an influencer but in my line of work I have to meet and work with people I don't particularly love all the time. The content of the podcast is irrelevant.

I think MOD is becoming a scape goat from all sides. I don't think she was very nice or clever to post on Tattle and I think she should probably step away for her kids sake, but the pile on from users and other influencer types is grotesque. "I'm so hurt etc etc" I don't buy it. These people were like colleagues in reality, not close friends. And in competition for the same budgets - is it wonder they resented one another deep down, it's shallow and fickle and continues to be. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.

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Alicenwonderland · 12/11/2019 17:57

Do I need to name change? Rather similar 🤭

Bl00mingCactus · 12/11/2019 18:09

I agree turnit

I think any Instagrammers trying to make themselves look morally superior on the back of this are a big shite.

It’s starting to feel like a witch hunt and many of the consistent posters watching every move, lambasting, hoping for her to lose her job etc are no better than bullies themselves.

She screwed up. Pretty sure she’ll learn from it and I’m sure she’s not alone.

Thd whole industry sounds bonkers. Those posting and those following. You’re all over invested.

Bl00mingCactus · 12/11/2019 18:12

Bit

Pomegranatepompom · 12/11/2019 18:19

I don't follow her or any other influencers, but I am pretty sure I'd lose my job if I had posted anything near what this person did. NMC has a strict code of conduct and I'd really question if she is in the right profession if she didn't consider this before taking on a online persona and being so unpleasant.

PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 12/11/2019 18:43

Also so what if she didn't particularly like CB and then went on to record a podcast in a work context. This is hardly unusual in a journalistic or content creation setting.

She didn't just do that though did she? She used CBs colour and the fact that CB wanted to discuss black women in childbirth purely for her own virtue signalling gain. She clearly doesn't care about black women's issues because if she did she wouldn't slag off a black woman for 'always bringing it back to race'.

She slagged off CB for doing the thing that she herself used for her own podcast (ie. Talking about race).

She did the same when she reviewed that book for virtue cookies as well.

It seems that its OK for Clemmie as a white woman to talk about BAME issues when it suits her her, but apparently not OK for actual black women to do the same.

legoiseverywhere · 12/11/2019 18:44

Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.

I think that's the whole issue with influencers, people are naive & don't realise its a MLM scheme, what's been sold to them etc.

legoiseverywhere · 12/11/2019 18:47

I agree with @PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind its not about playing nice with a colleague CH specifically wanted CB on her podcast because she was black!

BanKittenHeels · 12/11/2019 18:53

Thd whole industry sounds bonkers. Those posting and those following. You’re all over invested.

I think the whole thing is bonkers but I think a lot of it needs carefully examining because the impact it is having on consumer choices, PR and advertising, the way people interact with their families, safeguarding and how they consume media is fascinating and at times incredibly troubling.
It’s a fast paced part of the world with little to no enforceable laws or rules. It’s the Wild West and in twenty years we will see many, many law suits from consumers, companies and most likely - the children of both influencers and Joe and Josephine public who made their children a commodity for both likes and money.

I took a break from my career (healthcare like Clemmie) and in that break set up a business which happened to overlap with dealing with a lot of influencers. At the same time my then 11/12 yo DS and his peers were getting into YouTubers (which if you think Instagram is bonkers, you won’t believe what a circus that is).
I became increasingly troubled with what I saw and how hypnotic the experience of consuming this form of advertising (because that’s what it is) is for a great deal of people. Look at people like Zoella, MOD, Mrs Hinch etc. with their armies of fans who will ruin lives over one critical word said about their idol.

There is little critical discussion about this which doesn’t get immediately picked up by the influencers as trolling or bullying. The mainstream media, despite generally hating internet stars, go for the sympathy side and most articles cover the “Awww poor influencers got bullied side”. There is little to no examination of this cultural switch to online displays of ones life for financial gain and anyone who dares to raise a critical voice is pushed away as a troll.

People must keep talking about this.

Ellapaella · 12/11/2019 19:07

@Pomegranatepompom I agree. The use of social media in her case is quite suspect, she also posts on SM while she is work (there are photos of her in her uniform on the ward) and in the trust I work in that would be a huge no no.
Acting in a dishonest way, particularly in such a public manner is very much frowned upon as well. In fact it is in the code of conduct that one has to act with honesty and integrity treating people fairly without bullying and that includes the general public not just patients. She's admitted publicly to online bullying so I wonder where that leaves her with the NMC?

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RoseAdagio · 12/11/2019 19:16

@PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind not going to disagree with you there on that last point! Criticising someone under an alias name and then inviting them on your podcast is definitely shady AF.

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 20:04

I think the whole thing is bonkers but I think a lot of it needs carefully examining because the impact it is having on consumer choices, PR and advertising, the way people interact with their families, safeguarding and how they consume media is fascinating and at times incredibly troubling.

Agree 100% with this. I just don't understand why people think that following these stories unfold is trivial, nor why it hasn't been covered in the press in any depth.

Atalune · 12/11/2019 20:07

It’s actually all incredibly sad.

Sad for the kids. Obviously.

Sad for her- she’s not what she thought she was and is actually just a bit thicker, a bit shallower and a whole
Lot more ordinary than she wants to be. I think she’s very possibly having some sort of identity crisis. And I unlike those before her like Britney Spears etc she is a grown ass woman who should know a lot better.

SM can be toxic.

Case. In. Point.

Bl00mingCactus · 12/11/2019 20:47

People think it’s trivial because it is trivial. People squabble on SM like they do round the school gate.

People sell things in all sorts of ways these days. Advertising is everywhere and takes many forms. You use your brain. I follow all sorts of accounts which sell things, haven’t brought anything once or been influenced to buy something I don’t want. The sort of people who do would do that anywhere. They’re adults.

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 21:07

Why are you here then Bl00mingcactus? Confused

GingerLemonTea · 12/11/2019 21:52

It’s bought not brought.

Tooearlyforcrackers · 12/11/2019 22:09

Shhhh, don’t tell Bl00mingcactus that, she’s smarter than us, I know this because she doesn’t get influenced by anything she sees on social media.....apparently Wink

Bl00mingCactus · 12/11/2019 22:09

Yes I realise that, fast typing.Hmm

Here to make a point. Is that not ok if it isn’t part of the witch hunt?HmmThe obsession with dragging this family down in the name of analysing Instagram isn’t pleasant.

She made a mistake. Pretty sure she regrets it. Can’t you all just keep it in perspective. I just follow areas I’m interested in- books, travel, art,pictures, simple living etc, maybe a couple of Insta mums I find funny. This shit goes over my head and would have no wish engaging in it. Isn’t there enough stress in real life?

Pomegranatepompom · 12/11/2019 22:12

It was a very sustained ‘mistake’

Bl00mingCactus · 12/11/2019 22:12

Ah I see the piling in gets extended when it goes against the gang. Hmm

Not smarter but frankly if I wanted to pay for Milk and More I’d no more likely sign up to it because MOD and Time for Tea advertise it than I would because it’s printed on the side of a bag used to deliver milk to work. It’s too expensive for my budget end of.

Bl00mingCactus · 12/11/2019 22:14

Yes It wasn’t good but seeing how over invested all you lot are I can see how she got sucked in.

Ellapaella · 12/11/2019 22:15

Yet here you are - engaging with it on this thread..Hmm

Pomegranatepompom · 12/11/2019 22:16

Really not over invested - didn’t follow her. Interesting you’re invested enough to defend.