What true crime has left you baffled?

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I'm watching a show on sky crime called, "Who killed Garrett Phillips."

I'm baffled at how the police came to the conclusion that their main suspect did it. Apart from the fact, that he was on camera in his car at the school (he worked there) and the victim was also on camera 7 seconds later, nowhere near his car.

It is truly bizarre.

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About Madeleine McCann, cadaver dogs aren’t that reliable. They are right around 95% of the time, which means one in twenty times they are wrong. I can’t put too much faith in them.'

The dogs alerted to blood and a dead body around 15 times. I think they were correct.

Someone mentioned about how bodies can still go missing in the UK. Not far from me a few years ago, a woman’s body was unearthed in a ditch beneath a hedge on the edge of some scrubland that was being redeveloped. It was a woman that had vanished a few years previously whilst out walking the dog. The speculation was that she had simply suffered a medical episode but had fallen out of sight. I couldn’t get over how awful it must have been. Her poor husband could literally have passed her and not known she was there.

And then there was the awful case of the young lad that went missing in the village next to ours. His mum was on the local tv and social media crying and asking for info and if anyone had seen him etc. About three months later his body was found on their property at the end of the overgrown garden. Obviously nobody thought to conduct that sort of search, they must have thought he’d gone off of his own accord. I can’t imagine how his poor mother must have felt knowing that he was laying out in the garden all that time.

They both really struck me. Such sad circumstances.

Documentary on Netflix called the Keepers
A teacher/ nun who was killed in Baltimore
She was trying to protect the children and report the horrendous abuse being perpetrated by the priest and other figures of authority

@managedmis

They weren't kidnapped, they were murderers
(Actually I think only one of them murdered someone. There was something eerily spooky about that story. Some sort of psychosis going on.

Abducted in plain sight is just shocking

Yes re the car. It’s still plainly visible on google earth (as a car shaped thing).

@EmmiJay who do you think killed him? Terribly sad - what an awful way to go.

There are so many baffling cases!

I've a particular interest in Ruth Wilson.

However, Alastair Wilson (other end of the country) what's being kept secret there for now?

I always remember Lee Boxell when this subject comes up.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_doorstep_murder_alistair_wilson

This. Heart breaking.

I remember that video, Vicky Hamilton and Dinah McNicol were both in that video, they were murdered by Tobin and buried beside each other in the garden of his house. At least those two families got to give them decent burials.

The JonBenet documentary I watched that I mentioned upthread followed the work of Lou Smit, a retired detective who worked on the original case. I remember it well because it frightened me. The documentary claimed/explained that there were half moon-shaped marks just above and below the ligature marks on JonBenet's neck which were consistent with her trying to pull the cord away from her neck.

Isn't Tobin meant to be Bible John?

Yes he's strongly thought to be Bible John

Vicky Hamilton was sad as her mum died soon after and never knew what happened to her.. How people can live with themselves and go about their normal lives knowing what they've done is scary. For years as well.

Another local one to me but before I was born was the St John's school shooting in Dundee. A description of the pregnant teacher trying to save her pupils really upset me. It must have been horrific.

Holly Bobo...it's such a murky case and I' m not convinced they got the right killers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Holly_Bobo

"Genette Tate"

I thought she was one of Robert Black's victims?

Forgot to say that one of the most baffling things about Robert Mone from the school shooting was that he was then able to escape from Carstairs and kill more people in the process.

Patrick Warren and Darren Spencer, I'd never heard of this, I just can't believe how we dealt with missing children in the 90s. It does seem that colour and class have such an impact on the police and media response.

@EmmiJay Who do you think killed Kendrick?! I've googled and can't find anything, am I missing something obvious?!

I'm down a serious googling rabbit hold now!

Ted Bundy - one of the worst serial killers in USA during 70s.
He wa charming and quite good looking though you could see the evil in his eyes.
I still don’t know how he managed to get away with the murders over such a long period of time .. chilling.

@CigarsofthePharoahs Apologies if someone else has already said this but the East Area Rapist has recently been caught. There’s a book called I’ll Be Gone in the Dark by Michelle McNamara (completed by her husband Patton Oswalt after her death) all about it.

@MissMarpletheMurderer it's believed that Brian Field May be responsible for the disappearance of Paddy and David.

And I agree that class had everything to do with how it was handled. These were two 'naughty' boys who roamed the streets late at night. One was excluded from school and violent, the other smoked. They were treated almost like missing adults who'd decided to rake off rather than the 11 and 13 year old little boys that they were