Meghan Markle interview

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“No one has asked if I was ok” (alight msiqiote but typing on phone)

What are people’s thoughts? Good on her i think but equally she can leave public eye

Do we think William has said that he's worried about Harry or do we think it's media tittle tattle ?

If he has ,not v helpful in my book .Passive aggresive .

It has been reported he has said he’s concerned. Rather than passive aggressive I think it shows the rift may be deeper than we imagine. They haven’t been in contact for a while.

Kid A (uk public and media)
Kid B (H&M)

A: will you play with me?
B: no. Leave me alone!
A: fine didn't like you anyway!
B: kid A isn't being nice to me!

As above, Megs has been pushing everyone away and can't see it comes from people wanting to be part of her life.

A friend who is a therapist said depressives are selfish. They cannot see past themselves or how their actions affect others. The "no-one asked if I'm ok" seems to show this perfectly along with telling people how she's "surviving" despite being around people who are literally trying to survive in Africa. Very inappropriate. The public are not allowed to approach her, her celeb friends gush about her and held the most elaborate baby shower. Who is she referring to who should be checking in on her?? Has Harry never asked if she's ok? I think she needs help and support.

Do you think it was passive aggressive of Meghan to say on a TV documentary that not many people have asked if she is OK? Or just for William to reply in the same way, peridito?

Harry can step out of public life if he wants to. He does seem very fragile at the moment (I do think he has mental health issues) and it would be a good idea if he did. I think Harry and Meghan will regret that documentary in the years to come.

But if there is a rift ,as I think we must assume there is ,surely the most helpful approach would be for William to keep quiet in public ? But try to heal the rift in private .

A public announcement of "I'm worried about my brother" smacks to me not of genuine concern ( it only increases the spotlight on H .) but trying to appear to be the good guy and shift responsibilty for the rift .

I should imagine William is worried, but I don't see evidence of him talking about it in public.

I would have thought though that at sometime a split was bound to happen-in that Harry couldn't forever be the "third wheel" on engagements with W&K.

It was probably also thought that Meghan would cope with the press, not be fazed by them on engagements & be able to help Harry to deal with them.

However it now seems that neither are coping.

Have all family & friends really deserted them both & it is H&M contra mundum?

"a source" apparently said William said something I'm wondering who this source is or is it more fabricated bollocks to add to the vultures frenzy

Do you think it was passive aggressive of Meghan to say on a TV documentary that not many people have asked if she is OK?

I think it was a masterclass in passive aggression.

“ She has continually pushed herself forward into the press and the public eye, ”
And there was me thinking that she was demanding privacy, not doing her royal duties properly and hiding herself away from the public.

Bloody hell, she’s clever!

Do you think she is dumb? I thought you were an ardent fan of hers or a member of her PR team.

You might think that visiting Africa would help them to get their problems in perspective. It seems not.

I just can't understand why newspapers and media generally are so nasty to her and Harry. They are a couple in love with a new baby. She hasn't done anything wrong, so why? Who thinks up all these ridiculous stories? I don't buy or read any of these stories and can't imagine the motives behind them

Poor Meghan. I feel immensely sorry for her. She wasn’t brought up around traditional British manners and this, I believe, is the reason why many British people find her to be jarring. At least with Diana, she grew up around the Royal Family and so understood on a subliminal level the rules of the British upper classes.

I’m staggered at the lack of preparation Meghan was given by Harry before marrying into his culture. Because ultimately that is the problem. There is a culture clash and Meghan appears to be bewildered by it. She has republican mentality embedded in her. No wonder she is suffering. I wouldn’t blame her if she decided to leave Harry and the U.K.

@ChicCroissant - I'm not sure what to think about M's remark about being asked whether she was ok . I'm inclined to think that she was referring to the press/media not caring how she felt .

Is that passive/aggresive ? Not sure .I thought it was genuine ,though how could one know ?

there isn't a 'joining the royal family' training course. I think that Kate and William broke up for a while before getting engaged precisely because she had concerns about what she was walking into.

Markle was apparently quite famous already, and the American trash-mags make ours look like the Girls Own paper. She cannot claim that all the nonsense is a surprise. And she could always do what many of us do and not read the redtops or follow them online. It's not actually that hard.

It is understandable that Harry blames the press for Diana's death (rather than the actual cause - insisting on being driven at high speed by a drunk and not wearing a seatbelt) but he should also learn by her other mistakes. I well remember the 'retiring from public life', only to be seen in the royal box at Wimbledon, with her kids in the Silverstone pit lane (usually over 18s only) and so on and so on.

and yes, to talk like this while visiting a place where basic survival is a challenge is a very bad look.

you can't have it all. Even if you are royalty.

A public announcement of "I'm worried about my brother" smacks to me not of genuine concern (it only increases the spotlight on H) but trying to appear to be the good guy and shift responsibilty for the rift

Exactly. Normally I take these media reports with a healthy pinch of salt, but this time I'm inclined to believe it

I’m staggered at the lack of preparation Meghan was given by Harry before marrying into his culture. Because ultimately that is the problem

And this is precisely what I've been saying all along ...

She chose to be an actress and marry a royal. She has more than most people.

imagine not being able to just 'be'.

She can do what she wants, within the law. The rest of the royal family might not like it but you don't have to follow their little rules. I find it strange that she cannot handle what the press say, when I'm pretty sure most celebs have heard worse said about them in the magazines and online.

Markle was apparently quite famous already, and the American trash-mags make ours look like the Girls Own paper. She cannot claim that all the nonsense is a surprise. And she could always do what many of us do and not read the redtops or follow them online. It's not actually that hard.

I agree.

Exactly @Puzzledandpissedoff

Even in my own humble existence I gave my DH a heads-up about my family’s traditions and ways, and vice versa, before marriage. We had many family gatherings and gradually got to know our places within each other’s family so that we could all run along well and live in peace.

Nobody responds well to a newcomer bulldozing their way over established family traditions and that seemingly is the issue with Meghan who seems bewildered, puzzled and pissed off (pardon to the pun ). That responsibility lies on Harry IMO and if he had more of a mature understanding of relationships and family dynamics, he would be handling things very differently. As it is, both of their behaviours is akin to throwing their toys out of the pram rather than take stock and start building bridges.

I find it strange that she cannot handle what the press say, when I'm pretty sure most celebs have heard worse said about them in the magazines and online.

The thing is that whilst she was on a modestly successful tv show, she was nowhere near on the level of fame as, say, Jennifer Anniston. When you reach that level of superstardom, criticism and scrutiny comes with the territory. Meghan would not have experienced that being of a level where she was the one chasing attention from the press and not the other way round.

She simply hadn’t developed the thick skin required for that level of fame and interest.

I understand the press follow them everywhere so they can't avoid it but they don't need to read about it or be told about it?

It's not as if the man on the street is hurling abuse at them, it's shitty newspapers and crap websites, the public have their own views. They should carry on their lives and ignore all press, they're playing into the hands of the papers. Stick to the charity stuff, no acknowledgement of gossip (if it works for Kate Moss 😉) deeds not words!

“ Nobody responds well to a newcomer bulldozing their way over established family traditions ”
I agree. How has Meghan done this?

How has Meghan done this?

To name a few that appeared to be at odds with recent Royal traditions:

Harry and Meghan weren’t truthful about when she went into labour and gave birth to Archie.

Withheld details of Godparents.

Didn’t give out a proper photo of Archie.

Obviously these are not terrible crimes. And, personally, I have a lot of sympathy for them wanting to do things their way. However, if they want to live a royal life then I think it’s fair to expect them to respect the rules and toe the line. Otherwise leave the title and palace accommodations behind, and live as ordinary citizens.

You've got to have some brass neck to say your life of wealth and privilege is hard when you've just visited one of the poorest continents in the world.

Btw I blame Harry for the nobheadness.

Both Harry and Meghan are well into adulthood, neither is a naive young thing with no clue. The shock of the press, give me a break. I agree, Dooley.