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I know this is a tactless thing to post but what would happen politically if the Queen died tonight?..

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BertrandRussell · 26/09/2019 20:41

She is 93- the possibility’s there...

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Wizzbangpop · 26/09/2019 23:00

But the pm goes to the queen to request they form a government. Think because the queen wouldn’t be alive then that permission is rescinded or something. So a new government needs to be formed with the permission of the new monarch.

TottieandMarchpane · 26/09/2019 23:01

It’s designed to be seamless.

I don’t think The Queen, Charles and William will be doing anything even slightly risky together for the foreseeable, though.

ReanimatedSGB · 26/09/2019 23:03

The institution of monarchy might continue when she pops off, but it doesn't have to. It's just something human beings made up, therefore human beings can decide it's a load of old bollocks and they can do without it.

There have long been quite a lot of people who think that having one human being, by accident of birth, considered the owner of the rest of us is ludicrous outdated nonsense. On the whole, though, republicans tend to think that there is no point in trying to boot a well-intentioned little old lady out of a pointless job that she does competently - and there really aren't many who favour the old-school method of doing away with monarchs. But the idea of, once she's died, giving some consideration as to whether we want to keep on propping up some family of parasitic inbreds indefinitely, has always seemed a reasonable one.

pallisers · 26/09/2019 23:04

But the pm goes to the queen to request they form a government. Think because the queen wouldn’t be alive then that permission is rescinded or something. So a new government needs to be formed with the permission of the new monarch.

I'm not sure that is the case but even if it were, all that would be needed would be for the PM to visit the new monarch and he would give permission to form a government. No election needed.

Outsomnia · 26/09/2019 23:05

@Wauden

So what? He did it all from his ubiquitous garden at Highgrove, and funded it from the Duchy of Cornwall income I suspect. No mortgage worries there!

He is a baby boy. His wife lives elsewhere most of the time, so he can talk to his plants as he wishes.

Honestly who cares really? Well at the end of the day WE are mostly paying for their privilege, whilst many are struggling.

Tonnerre · 26/09/2019 23:05

When George VI died, I think I read somewhere that even though the Queen was in Kenya she could go into official mourning immediately because someone had made sure there were black clothes in her luggage. I wonder whether Harry and Meghan have had to pack the black outfits?

QuimJongUn · 26/09/2019 23:06

The Smiths would be number one in the charts this week.

Snugglepumpkin · 26/09/2019 23:06

We'd get new pictures on money & stamps.
The national anthem would be King instead of Queen if you happened to have to sing it for some reason.
Florists would do a roaring trade for those people who go round leaving heaps of flowers as memorials.
The BBC would declare the nation was devastated at the loss.
Most people would mainly be interested in finding out if they get a day off work & if it is a paid day or unpaid.

PurpleFlower1983 · 26/09/2019 23:07

Operation London Bridge as others have said. I find it quite fascinating how detailed it is!

Snugglepumpkin · 26/09/2019 23:07

Meant to add
Nothing politically would change.

GabsAlot · 26/09/2019 23:08

A Genreal election f the queen dies? its got nothing to d with government

Only thing i dont want is queen camilla

31RueCambon75001 · 26/09/2019 23:08

Why is tonight significant?

LegArmpits · 26/09/2019 23:12

I was pondering this earlier.

ShippingNews · 26/09/2019 23:22

When George VI died, I think I read somewhere that even though the Queen was in Kenya she could go into official mourning immediately because someone had made sure there were black clothes in her luggage. I wonder whether Harry and Meghan have had to pack the black outfits?

Yes they do. The RF is very organised about this sort of thing. They all have mourning clothes with them at all times , in case of an unexpected death in the family. It's all part of being a Royal .

joyfullittlehippo · 26/09/2019 23:24

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YobaOljazUwaque · 26/09/2019 23:37

@ReanimatedSGB but Charles will be king the moment QE2 goes to meet her maker. If there is any consideration to be done about what happens next it needs to happen while Liz is still with us.

tbh if the monarchy is to be disbanded I would think the kindest way would be for an act of Parliament to decree while George is still a child that no further status of being in-line to the throne will pertain to any individual not yet born, and that whilst Charles, William and George can live out their lives according to the tradition they have been expecting since they were born, there will be no further monarchs after the reigns of these 3 are done, and George's heirs will be private citizens. That way no one has to grow up being told they will be king some day only to find they won't actually be so after all.

RubbingHimSourly · 27/09/2019 01:04

I'm no royalist but I can't imagine the Queen not being there..........I think her death will be the start of the end of our monarchy.

She does things proper does Liz, the rest wouldn't know where to start. And I wouldn't want them to.

DonKeyshot · 27/09/2019 02:10

Awful as it sounds there’s already a plan for when she dies“
Well, yes of course there is. But not sure it was written with rhw current situation in mind!

It's written to cover any situation in that the moment Her Maj expels her last breath, Charles becomes king. A seamless transition which is entirely removed and separate from any civil unrest/political shenanigans or, indeed, WW3.

If Sylvie Krin of Private Eye fame is to be believed, this would be the moment Chazza has been fantasising about for a very long time and it would be ironic if he was sat in his bathtub when the tragic event occurred. Grin

DonKeyshot · 27/09/2019 02:26

For those unfamilar with PE I should add that ,in Sylve Krin's world, on erroneously hearing the news of his accession by misunderstanding radio reports which have to do with other matters, Chazza leaps out of his bathtub and bursts into a roomful of his relatives, courtiers, or other astonished onlookers, with his crown jewels on display.

GaudyNight · 27/09/2019 06:53

I’m interested in what those people who claim the queen has done an excellent job think she has actually done — isn’t it more a matter of, compared to other royals, that she’s kept completely schtum for more than sixty years, done a lot of waving, and not had her private life splashed across the tabloids?

GoFiguire · 27/09/2019 06:58

I think there will be a revolution and @BertrandRussellwill be the first against the wall.

Well you did ask.

lyralalala · 27/09/2019 07:01

In many ways it would be an ideal scenario for Boris. He needs an extension by the looks of it, but absolutely doesn't want to ask for it. IT would be an ideal scenario to say he has to ask for an extension, not because he wants too, but because of the country etc etc. Beyond that nothing would change, they don't have to be asked by the new monarch to form a government.

Harry and Meghan will absolutely have black clothes with them. I'd bet the Queen has been insistent the error made with her not having a black dress in Kenya when her father died has never, ever been made again (she had to change on the plane after it landed).

DonKeyshot · 27/09/2019 08:40

If there is any constitutional crisis it may be caused by Charles's insistence that he wishes to be 'Defender of all the Faiths' plural which won't sit easily with the CofE and may lead to a separation of church and state,

There's also the question of Camilla. Will there be hostility towards her becoming Queen in a joint crowning ceremony? I very much doubt that Charles will wish to be crowned alone with her being known as the King Consort or similar?

GaudyNight · 27/09/2019 09:08

But the Queen was crowned alone, and Philip had no part in the coronation, not being the monarch. I don’t think there’s any modern precedent for a Queen/King consort being ‘crowned’ at all. I would be very surprised if anyone countenanced Camilla having a central role in Charles’ coronation at all.

I think the Palace are well aware that while Camilla has been successfully rehabilitated from Tampaxgate/three in our marriage/the Slag That Broke Di’s Heart (and had the temerity to be less conventionally attractive than her while she did so), Charles becoming king will bring another round of scrutiny of Camilla, and their concern will be with making it look as though no one’s making undue claims on her behalf.