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What time does your child's secondary school finish?

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KurriKawari · 24/09/2019 16:36

Just need to figure out whether I'm being unreasonable or it's the norm for schools to finish at 2pm?

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KurriKawari · 24/09/2019 19:37

Nothing to do with funding. Teachers are refusing to stay past 15:00 for meetings so they finish early one day just so they can have meetings all one day and leave at 15:00. The irony when they go on n on about punctuality and attendance and how even one missed hour affects a child's learning.

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Beautiful3 · 24/09/2019 19:38

3 20pm here.

LolaSmiles · 24/09/2019 19:49

Is this secondary? In my experience of working in schools, such an early finish is often due to poor behaviour.
They cut the amount of free time at breaks and lunch back to the minimum, so that students have very little time in which to mess about outside of the classroom
You beat me to it. 230 finishes in my area are almost all schools with poor behaviour reputations.

KurriKawari
I used to work somewhere that had a similar arrangement.
We started earlier (8:30/8:40), had shorter breaks and lunch and then on set days we had CPD and meetings. We also had reduced tutorial time as well so had morning and afternoon registration with tutors rather than what lots of schools do which is 20-30mins a day.

Teaching staff are subject to the directed time budget and heads can't direct staff to work outside of those hours. They're well within their rights to refuse to be directed outside of that budget (enough of our planning falls out of that time). That budget includes all teaching time, PPA, meetings, open evenings, parents' evenings, CPD and training etc

You're on a bit of a red herring with the attendance things. The issue with attendance and punctuality is that students who aren't there are missing out on the content being taught and the skills being developed. They then go in late or to next lesson not having a clue what's going on. A change to the school day is different.

It's not an unusual set up for schools to adopt if there is a specific need, but it is unusual to do it 3 weeks in.

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Heatherjayne1972 · 24/09/2019 19:50

3.05 here. Start at 8.30. 20 min break and 30 mins Lunch
Think they’ve reduced lunch times from one hour to stop kids leaving the premises (and going to the chippy or the offy like we did)

TitchyP · 24/09/2019 19:56

8.40am-4pm at my DDs school - a long day but longer holidays to balance it out.

Friend's school's vary but usually between 3 and 3.30.

A couple of schools finish at 1pm on Fridays but have slightly shorter holidays to balance it.

GreySheep · 24/09/2019 20:32

DD’s school finishes early one day a week:
4 days 8:30-3pm
1 day 8:30-2:40pm
The early finish is for teacher training every week.
Her school is amazing and results going through the roof. I don’t mind the early finish because whatever they’re doing is working well.

Dorsetcamping · 24/09/2019 20:42

3.20pm
3 x 95 min lessons plus breaks

OddBoots · 24/09/2019 21:00

2.45pm every day here, it seems quite early but quite a few then have to go to pick siblings up from primary school.

Onesailwait · 24/09/2019 21:06

3.08 here for my middle school kid( age 12). Elementary school is 8.37 am till 2.48pm.

WombatChocolate · 24/09/2019 21:07

8.35-3.50 here. That’s with 20 min break and 1 hr 5 mins for lunch. Lots of clubs run at lunchtime. Lots after school too.

It’s a selective school, so no major behavioural issues meaning long lunch causes problems. Most will stay at least one afternoon until 5/5.30 for clubs. Catch-up lessons happen at lunchtime or in scheduled lessons, not after school or holidays. Traditional study leave still given to exam classes with option to come in for help if needed. Staff have meetings at 8am, at lunchtime and sometimes after school, but not weekly.

GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 24/09/2019 21:08

One of the middle schools near here shuts at 2pm one day a week. Those children are as young as 9.

KnifeAngel · 24/09/2019 21:09

Current secondary school finishes at 3.15. Previous secondary school finished at 2.00 one day a week.

PuppyMonkey · 24/09/2019 21:39

Nothing to do with funding. Teachers are refusing to stay past 15:00 for meetings so they finish early one day just so they can have meetings all one day and leave at 15:00.

But maybe they’re refusing because of not being paid for staying late and needing to do so much other unpaid stuff? So it is essentially a funding issue?

LolaSmiles · 24/09/2019 21:43

Not just that puppy, teachers can't be directed to attend meetings outside of directed time under normal teaching terms and conditions (some academy chains do their own thing but directed time is still the norm). So even if the school had money and wanted to offer pay and a half for the additional time then staff under normal teaching terms and conditions can't be compelled to attend.

The OP's school has more meeting time for staff in a month than I have to do in a term.

The school have had to decide if the meetings they are calling in that frequency are needed and beneficial enough to warrant a change in school day because they can't have that much meeting time and the same school day.

Dontbugmemalone · 24/09/2019 22:12

2.45pm finish here. The other secondary school up the road have a later finishing time to avoid any trouble between the children.

HoppyHop · 24/09/2019 22:15

Registration 8:30-9am daily. Finish 3:15pm

BrokenWing · 24/09/2019 23:05

Mon - Wed 8:50 - 15:35 = 7 x 50 min periods
Thu - Fri 8:50 - 14:45 = 6 x 50 min periods

Optional supported study for 1hr after school for some subjects Tue - Thu (but bus leaves at normal time so need alternative way home).

Works well as they get tired towards the end of the week and/or gives them more time at home for homework /revision.

Lazysundays18 · 24/09/2019 23:10

3:25pm & start at 8:25am.

fastyellowcar · 25/09/2019 09:46

Secondary school, 8.00-2.10 everyday, with teacher supervised homework/other clubs till 4.15 (and 7.15-8!)

It works well, lots stay for homework club and get the studying done there - I think this is great, as it means they get decent downtime at home.

Kazzyhoward · 25/09/2019 09:51

8:50 to 3:30

Would be far better to start and finish later as he has to leave the house at 7:30 to get the service bus to school. If it started just slightly later at 9:00, he'd be able to have another hour in bed and leave home at 8:30 - it's an hourly bus service, only 10 minutes on the bus, but a 15 minute walk from bus station to school.

He comes home and does nothing till tea time anyway, so it's wasted time.

bananacakerox · 25/09/2019 11:11

8.20-4pm

Enko · 25/09/2019 11:31

Ds and dd3s secondary finish at 3.30 dd1&2 a finished at 3.00

listsandbudgets · 25/09/2019 11:44

Start 8.45 and finish 4pm Monday - Wednesday

Start 8.45 and finish 3.20pm Thursday and Friday

They get an hour for lunch and a 20 minute break

Skyejuly · 25/09/2019 11:55

Mine start at 9am and have lesson 1 break lesson 2 lunch then lesson 3.

Finish 3.50pm
Home at 4.30

isabellerossignol · 25/09/2019 12:01

9am to 3.25 at my daughter's school. They have nine classes a day and 40 mins for lunch