Would you report this?

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Would you report someone you know for benefit fraud?

I'm stuck in a bit of a moral dilemma - I hate seeing people abuse the system.

Just wondered what the general consensus was.

Yes I would

Probably not. Not because I think it's ok, I'd just rather mind my own business.

I'd mind my own business.

I too would 'mind my own business' 😬

I would, we are all paying for that fraud.

I would want to but probably wont actually.

It depends.
Am I certain they are committing fraud? I had a woman at playgroup laughing over how she just lied all the time about not knowing who the father of her baby was, when she knew very well it was her boyfriend who she declared as a ‘lodger’. She was obnoxious the way she spoke and laughed about all us ‘idiots’ not playing the system. She got reported by one of the other mums.

I thought another woman was committing benefit fraud but I didn’t fully know her circumstances and if I had reported her it would have been a mistake and caused her much stress.

So, in the first instance I would report but not in the secon

Yes I would but loads will come on here and tell you not to, and the impact they had personally for a malicious complaint.
I dont understand why you wouldn't, if you are doing it for the right reasons and not just because 'they go on two holidays every year so something must be up'.

It depends on the situation and how sure I was.

Somebody living with a partner and claiming as a single parent? Then yes I would.

A single parent doing a few hours of PT work cash in hand because they were struggling to get by? Then no I wouldn't.

Be very careful though and make sure you know all the facts first. Things might not be as you think they are.

Yes, in a heartbeat.

I know the facts and is 100% a young adult claiming disability based on things they 'can't do' but do every day. They could easily work if they wanted to.

It frustrates me because I have family members who have been through the mill who really can't work, and have lifelong illnesses but have to go through annual reviews of their benefits because other people choose to cheat the system.

Same as @Waxonwaxoff0. Someone doing a cash in hand cleaning job for a few quid a week and not declaring it for example wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. Not declaring a live in partner, knowing the difference in £££ it would make, pass me the phone.

Disability allowance is pretty hard to claim isn't it, if you're actually not?
Wrongly claiming disability would annoy me more than other benefit fraud to be honest.

Ok cross post.

I wonder how this person has managed to play the system then? As it seems impossible for for genuinely ill and disabled people to get what they’re entitled to!

@FoldenHoard it appears that physical disabilities are a lot harder to claim for, which seems strange to me as they're easier to prove.
I guess nobody wants to be seen as discriminatory towards those who struggle with their mental health.

I wouldn’t if someone was claiming for a hidden disability. You just don’t know how life is for them.
They may look like they are doing what everyone else is but the effort and preparation it has taken to get to that can be so much more.
If someone was claiming mobility and I saw them trotting round the golf course when they said they couldn’t walk 50m without sticks, then yes.

I think I'd report that one. It's people like her that make it so hard for genuinely disabled people to get what they need.

I know the facts and is 100% a young adult claiming disability based on things they 'can't do' but do every day. They could easily work if they wanted to

I have a disability which fluctuates - some days I appear to be fine, but it can change in a heartbeat. I also live with the fatigue and pain every single day. People might think I 'could work if I wanted to' but I really could not.

Disability benefits are incredibly hard to get. Despite being diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in 2011 and some days being unable to get out of bed, I couldn't get any help because I was able, on the day of my assessment, to walk from the bus stop. I also told them I could, some days, do my own shopping and dress myself. I had support from my GP and consultant but still wasn't awarded any help.

This person will have had to jump through endless hoops to be awarded anything, particularly if it's MH related. And if it is, they probably have enough to deal with already without the worry of being investigated.

Please, OP, leave it alone.

I can look perfectly normal. I go into hospital next week for steroid injections and for biologic infusions. What people don't see is the time it takes me to get up in the morning, the hour it takes me to get washed and dressed, the cuts all over my hands from opening packets. The extra expense because I have to buy pre chopped foods. The going to the loo to empty my bowels twenty times a day. But hey, I look fine.

I know the facts and is 100% a young adult claiming disability based on things they 'can't do' but do every day. They could easily work if they wanted to

Unless you've had sight of their medical records and the training to properly understand what is written there then you do not know 100% of the facts.

You pretty clearly don’t have all the facts here, OP. How could you?

I’d leave it.

It depends.

Benefits are now so obscenely low that I can understand people “over egging the pudding” when claiming or doing a few hours of work.

Nope. I'd mind my own business.

@Venger I can when the person is very open and honest when they're not talking to decision makers!

I am taking on everyone's comments. To clarify, I'm well aware of invisible disabilities and the challenges those affected face.

Please be assured I am not minimising in any way anybody's struggles.

I was genuinely just wondering what other people will do.

I will mind my own business on the basis of the more people caught cheating the system, the harder it will become for those who actually need the support.

it appears that physical disabilities are a lot harder to claim for, which seems strange to me as they're easier to prove.

Why do you think that? Actually the opposite is true, it's harder claiming for a mental health condition or something like autism. Seriously though, you could really fuck someone's life up with your judgements and assumptions. And when you say claiming disability, what do you mean? Do you mean ESA or PIP?
Because so many people have no clue that you can work and claim PIP. And lots of people don't even know they're two completely different things.
If it's PIP you're talking about then they must really need it, it's not easy to get at all. And you can't just write down a bunch of made up or exaggerated stuff and they just believe you. You need evidence you know.

Anytime someone comes out with crap like "oh, they could work if they wanted to" they sound like more than a bit of an idiot. Even if a disabled could and wanted to work, do you have any idea how hard it is to find a job as a disabled person?

I will mind my own business on the basis of the more people caught cheating the system, the harder it will become for those who actually need the support

You are so naive, it's hard because the government want it to be, no other reason.